So by that logic (and I use that term very loosely in your case);
Diablo 2 was never finished?
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Brevik doesn't work on Torchlight.
He did Hellgate, Mythos and... not really sure passed that. Obviously Diablo 1 and 2.
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Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Pretty sure Bill Roper was also? After Hellgate not doing well and Mythos being sold off before it was even finished that's when Schaefer branched out more by himself I think with Matt Uelmen on board to do music.
Bill went back to Cryptic on his own. (right after Hellgate)
And then he went to China for like, 4-5 years as a "special speaker".
And then he went into Radio.
*shrugs
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Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Pretty sure Bill Roper was also? After Hellgate not doing well and Mythos being sold off before it was even finished that's when Schaefer branched out more by himself I think with Matt Uelmen on board to do music.
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There's no real reason to take this personal guys, lets not forget these are just strangers on the internet, i doubt any of us are personal friends.
The interview definitely seems like it was aimed at coaxing negative feedback out of Brevik.
In my opinion though you can't take the all of the positives of D1 and D2 and attribute them to Brevik, just like you can't take all the negatives of D3 and attribute them to Wilson. If Brevik had worked on the game alone who knows if we would have ever gotten a D2 at all. Whole teams worked on all games. Some of the team from Blizzard North went on to become more successful like Max Schaefer and his team, they've shown they have a good grasp at what it takes to make a good ARPG.
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Jay Wilson wouldn't even have a job right now if it weren't for the above ^^
This is a discussion about professionalism, not titles associated with their name.
Bad job trying to turn the topic elsewhere.
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After saying those words to Dave, the man who brought us our passion, you will never be widely accepted, Jay. Your PR excuses cannot hide your aggressive hateful nature.
oh shut up.. while what brevik said sounded professional, it was a HUGE insult to the entire team.
jays response was no doubt unprofessional.. but heres an idea, you go put your heart and soul into something that means the world to you for 4 years, then when it's not doing so hot some other guy basically says your team is incompetent and didn't have a chance because all the talent left..
see how you react.
god people are retarded.
what he said was unprofessional, but was human, and he apologized as he should have.
water under the bridge, grow up.
For someone who is very bad at reading between the lines, you're sure insisting that others do it so well.
1. Dave was ASKED how he felt. And if you watched the interview at all you should be able to tell that the interviewer was trying VERY hard to get him to be a lot nastier. So yes, Dave was honest and yet professional, no other way to see that.
2. Jay reacted like a small child. Not exactly the type of personality that should be in his position in the first place. Human or not, when you're the game director of a franchise as popular as Diablo, working for a company as prolific as Blizzard, you should have a better temperament than that, or be smarter, but probably both.
3. His "heartfelt" "apology" was, I can guarantee you, a direct result of Mike Morhaime, or some other Blizzard higher-up, dragging Jay's ass into his office and saying "Look dude, you fucked up, go fix this and save some face", which he then tried to do. I.e. he only said those things because it's now plastered all over the internet.
Conclusion: David Brevik - 1 Jay Wilson - 0
You grow up.
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Quote from AudioCGAverage age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Anyone remember this famous quote from "Dazed and Confused" (referenced by Brian in Family Guy one time, if you're not from my generation):
"That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."
I wish I could say that I get older, and gamers stay the same age.
Every year that goes by, the gaming community as a whole gets more immature, more hostile, more sexist, more racist, more nerdraging, more foaming-at-the-mouth-tantrum-throwing insane.
And while all this happens.. every survey indicates that the average (biological) age is increasing, even as the mental age decreases, and the emotional age plummets.
It's enough to push you into playing single-player games exclusively.
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Dave called it like it is and has customer feedback to back it up. Jay couldn't be a man about it and instead acted like a 13 year old. You don't ever think anyone is awesome and a loser at the same time. If he just said "fuck that" then I'd understand but he made a personal remark about Dave with his "loser" addition and for that he's not getting a pass.
Should we dredge up people from this community's online comments and judge them the same way?
Because THAT would be far, FAR worse, don't ya think?
The community IS actually full of children (but not all, and you can certainly find plenty of adult comments that are respectful despite the generalization). Children are the largest demographic of gamers so, duh, most of them are going to be childish. Jay Wilson is obviously not a child but certainly acted like one. His facebook is going to be one of the very few ways to get a candid view of him and this is how he reveals himself when not behind PR like this letter. You don't get to be in a position of power like this where your position is owed to your customers when you can't handle yourself appropriately. There are plenty of Game Directors who don't have evidence of acting like this.
Sure he's allowed to say "fuck you" to someone. But if he's going to be dumb enough to say it to the creator of the franchise that gave him his fucking job, you better actually back your shit up (like Dave did). He didn't. Just a flippant statement like any kid would. Your job as a leader (and a Director is a leader of multiple leaders) is to set an example. When I get paid to do what he does and control huge franchises like that, you be sure to put me in my place if you catch me doing shit like that.
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After saying those words to Dave, the man who brought us our passion, you will never be widely accepted, Jay. Your PR excuses cannot hide your aggressive hateful nature.
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Dave called it like it is and has customer feedback to back it up. Jay couldn't be a man about it and instead acted like a 13 year old. You don't ever think anyone is awesome and a loser at the same time. If he just said "fuck that" then I'd understand but he made a personal remark about Dave with his "loser" addition and for that he's not getting a pass.
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I'm tired of them dictating what is "fun" and what isn't "fun."
If I see another interview where a developers use the word "fun," I'm going to explode.
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Paragon system looked awesome then they said its for 1 char only! What a nice way to force me to play 1 char.
rip 9 alts
yeah thats sucks!
i like all classes and part of the fun for me is to switch betweens classes and gamemodes (HC/SC) but now i'm forced to chose one character in one gamemode for the next - i quote Jay Wilson - "hundreds and hundreds of hours"
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I'm on that too. I'm personally not really interested in having all of my progress reset overnight.
(yes, I hated that specific part of D2 too)
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Back from a 2 month break from D3 (Borderlands2Torchlight2Skyrimlolz)
And I see there have been many changes to the game, so;
I am very much in MF hunt mode, still low Paragon, and am at the point where I am farming for that magical "final set" of gear for when im capped out Paragon. (IK damn-it, shoot for the stars!)
Here is the MF gearz;
http://us.battle.net...3/hero/13476214
Now, I would assume that Act 3 is still the hotspot?
What would you guys recommend for MP settings with this setup? Should I go lower MP 1-2 and fast? Or slog through a higher MP?
Is the MF cap now at 375%? I hit 305 with 5 stacks ATM, should I be targeting said break point?
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That is all.
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Diablo 3 is fun, I also enjoy how my fantasy "Rend" 2H Barb build is massively improved. ;p
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lol
WAT?
Did you ever even play D2?
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Any Legendary or Set has the potential to drop in the Vault. (albeit a small chance)
*with exception to low level stuff, obviously.
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ORLY?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5740846683
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Diablo-3-Cheaters-Banned-By-Thousands-43512.html
http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/13/diablo-iii-bans-strike-several-thousand-cheaters/
Any other nuggets of stupid you want to drop on us?
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I know that, you know that, but you remember D3's launch right? Yeah.
They even have their own "Error 42", that will become a meme.
I just love pointing this out to the people who thought GW2 would destroy all things Diablo 3.
A little dose of reality for the masses.
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Massive log in issues with GW2 launch.
lolz.
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Another ONLINE ONLY GAME.
roflol
If you think Arena Net doesnt have network issues from time to time you are hilariously misinformed.
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roflol
Self entitled much?
Game has always been advertised as online only, you directly supported online only when you BOUGHT the game.
Online only comes with some server issues now and then, thats the reality, come to terms with it.
If you dont want to support online only, why would you BUY an online only game?
Your a hypocrite, and a moron.
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You have them all there, he is sitting at a 50% record for good/bad.
Marvel Heroes will be the game that tips the scale one way or the other.
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Who knows, Marvel has had some hits, and some misses, all depends on who the dev house is behind them.
Im a comic nerd, so I always hold out hope that a Marvel/DC game will be great. (yup, even Breviks)
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Bill went back to Cryptic on his own. (right after Hellgate)
And then he went to China for like, 4-5 years as a "special speaker".
And then he went into Radio.
*shrugs
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Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Just saying.
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