So by that logic (and I use that term very loosely in your case);
Diablo 2 was never finished?
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Nov 22, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Diablo 3 Not Aiming For E-Sports, More on Bots, Blue Posts, Happy Thanksgiving from BlizzardPosted in: News
So by that logic (and I use that term very loosely in your case);
Diablo 2 was never finished? -
Aug 24, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from Daemaro
Brevik doesn't work on Torchlight.
He did Hellgate, Mythos and... not really sure passed that. Obviously Diablo 1 and 2.
You have them all there, he is sitting at a 50% record for good/bad.
Marvel Heroes will be the game that tips the scale one way or the other. -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from overneathe
And now he's going to be VP of Marvel's games. Which is just sad.Quote from AudioCG
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Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Pretty sure Bill Roper was also? After Hellgate not doing well and Mythos being sold off before it was even finished that's when Schaefer branched out more by himself I think with Matt Uelmen on board to do music.
Bill went back to Cryptic on his own. (right after Hellgate)
And then he went to China for like, 4-5 years as a "special speaker".
And then he went into Radio.
*shrugs
Who knows, Marvel has had some hits, and some misses, all depends on who the dev house is behind them.
Im a comic nerd, so I always hold out hope that a Marvel/DC game will be great. (yup, even Breviks) -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from Daemaro
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Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Pretty sure Bill Roper was also? After Hellgate not doing well and Mythos being sold off before it was even finished that's when Schaefer branched out more by himself I think with Matt Uelmen on board to do music.
Bill went back to Cryptic on his own. (right after Hellgate)
And then he went to China for like, 4-5 years as a "special speaker".
And then he went into Radio.
*shrugs -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from Daemaro
There's no real reason to take this personal guys, lets not forget these are just strangers on the internet, i doubt any of us are personal friends.
The interview definitely seems like it was aimed at coaxing negative feedback out of Brevik.
In my opinion though you can't take the all of the positives of D1 and D2 and attribute them to Brevik, just like you can't take all the negatives of D3 and attribute them to Wilson. If Brevik had worked on the game alone who knows if we would have ever gotten a D2 at all. Whole teams worked on all games. Some of the team from Blizzard North went on to become more successful like Max Schaefer and his team, they've shown they have a good grasp at what it takes to make a good ARPG.
Please note how Brevik was the ONLY one left out of Schaefer and Co.s new studio.............. (when they were all together for Flagship)
Just saying. -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from snared04drummer
Diablo
Diablo II
Jay Wilson wouldn't even have a job right now if it weren't for the above ^^
This is a discussion about professionalism, not titles associated with their name.
Bad job trying to turn the topic elsewhere.
Last time I checked, David wanted to make a claymation turn based game, and needed Morhime and Co. to make it into the games they were.
Wilson worked on DOW and COH before D3, both games were fantastic successes.
David without Blizz backing made one of the biggest flops in gaming history (as in, an ACTUAL flop, not an imagined flop, it actually closed his studio down it flopped so bad.)
Again, so Jay spouted off a bit to much, get a life, get over it.
He is a GAME DEVELOPER, not a politician, not a public figure, just a dude who makes games.
Get your head on straight.
I could name a dozen big name producers/developers/etc that have a faaaaaaaaaaar longer list of "unprofessional" statements then what Jay has said.
Yet those are tiny little blips on the radar, because Blizzard fans are a writhing mass of garbage, and cling to anything they can hound on endlessly, the lack of any sort of glimmering hope of a life is all but snuffed by these mongrels. -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from snared04drummer
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After saying those words to Dave, the man who brought us our passion, you will never be widely accepted, Jay. Your PR excuses cannot hide your aggressive hateful nature.
oh shut up.. while what brevik said sounded professional, it was a HUGE insult to the entire team.
jays response was no doubt unprofessional.. but heres an idea, you go put your heart and soul into something that means the world to you for 4 years, then when it's not doing so hot some other guy basically says your team is incompetent and didn't have a chance because all the talent left..
see how you react.
god people are retarded.
what he said was unprofessional, but was human, and he apologized as he should have.
water under the bridge, grow up.
For someone who is very bad at reading between the lines, you're sure insisting that others do it so well.
1. Dave was ASKED how he felt. And if you watched the interview at all you should be able to tell that the interviewer was trying VERY hard to get him to be a lot nastier. So yes, Dave was honest and yet professional, no other way to see that.
2. Jay reacted like a small child. Not exactly the type of personality that should be in his position in the first place. Human or not, when you're the game director of a franchise as popular as Diablo, working for a company as prolific as Blizzard, you should have a better temperament than that, or be smarter, but probably both.
3. His "heartfelt" "apology" was, I can guarantee you, a direct result of Mike Morhaime, or some other Blizzard higher-up, dragging Jay's ass into his office and saying "Look dude, you fucked up, go fix this and save some face", which he then tried to do. I.e. he only said those things because it's now plastered all over the internet.
Conclusion: David Brevik - 1 Jay Wilson - 0
You grow up.
Hellgate: London
David Brevik - 1 Jay Wilson -1
How short the memories of gamers really are. -
Aug 23, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from st0rmie
Quote from AudioCGAverage age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Anyone remember this famous quote from "Dazed and Confused" (referenced by Brian in Family Guy one time, if you're not from my generation):
"That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."
I wish I could say that I get older, and gamers stay the same age.
Every year that goes by, the gaming community as a whole gets more immature, more hostile, more sexist, more racist, more nerdraging, more foaming-at-the-mouth-tantrum-throwing insane.
And while all this happens.. every survey indicates that the average (biological) age is increasing, even as the mental age decreases, and the emotional age plummets.
It's enough to push you into playing single-player games exclusively.
+1 for the use of a Dazed and Confused quote.
And yeah, I feel like an old man, shouting at these whack chilluns to get off meh damn digital lawn! -
Aug 22, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from Benegesserit
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Dave called it like it is and has customer feedback to back it up. Jay couldn't be a man about it and instead acted like a 13 year old. You don't ever think anyone is awesome and a loser at the same time. If he just said "fuck that" then I'd understand but he made a personal remark about Dave with his "loser" addition and for that he's not getting a pass.
Should we dredge up people from this community's online comments and judge them the same way?
Because THAT would be far, FAR worse, don't ya think?
The community IS actually full of children (but not all, and you can certainly find plenty of adult comments that are respectful despite the generalization). Children are the largest demographic of gamers so, duh, most of them are going to be childish. Jay Wilson is obviously not a child but certainly acted like one. His facebook is going to be one of the very few ways to get a candid view of him and this is how he reveals himself when not behind PR like this letter. You don't get to be in a position of power like this where your position is owed to your customers when you can't handle yourself appropriately. There are plenty of Game Directors who don't have evidence of acting like this.
Sure he's allowed to say "fuck you" to someone. But if he's going to be dumb enough to say it to the creator of the franchise that gave him his fucking job, you better actually back your shit up (like Dave did). He didn't. Just a flippant statement like any kid would. Your job as a leader (and a Director is a leader of multiple leaders) is to set an example. When I get paid to do what he does and control huge franchises like that, you be sure to put me in my place if you catch me doing shit like that.
M rated game.
Average age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Case in point;
Lets take average Diablo 3 forum troll #45687 as an example.
Lets grab a weeks worth his of comments from the site.
Then show them publicly, to their family, their co workers, etc.
What do you think the reaction would be?
Yeah man, so Jay got pissed at his team getting slammed, thats NOTHING compared to the back and forth mudslinging several "un-named" companies practice on a weekly basis.
Its just something for the meme obsessed community to rant and rave about for weeks on end, they desperately cling to anything new to attempt (and fail) to spawn some form of wit.
I have literally lost respect for gamers as a whole due to the sheer quantity of morons that heaves and pupates under the thick and dank blanket of the inter-webs.
But hey, maybe its just me, amirite? -
Aug 22, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on A Message From JayPosted in: NewsQuote from flikera
After saying those words to Dave, the man who brought us our passion, you will never be widely accepted, Jay. Your PR excuses cannot hide your aggressive hateful nature.
That's RICH coming from this horribly rude, painfully childish, and pathetically immature community.
Really,
Gold star right there.
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Dave called it like it is and has customer feedback to back it up. Jay couldn't be a man about it and instead acted like a 13 year old. You don't ever think anyone is awesome and a loser at the same time. If he just said "fuck that" then I'd understand but he made a personal remark about Dave with his "loser" addition and for that he's not getting a pass.
Should we dredge up people from this community's online comments and judge them the same way?
Because THAT would be far, FAR worse, don't ya think? -
Aug 21, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Patch 1.0.4 Interview with Jay Wilson and Andrew ChambersPosted in: NewsQuote from GreenWins
I'm tired of them dictating what is "fun" and what isn't "fun."
If I see another interview where a developers use the word "fun," I'm going to explode.
You cannot be serious?
You do realize EVERY GAME EVER MADE has been done so with the development team deciding what is "fun", then building the mechanics around that.
Including Diablo 2.
Its like you guys dont have a single brain cell left in your heads. -
Aug 21, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Patch 1.0.4 Interview with Jay Wilson and Andrew ChambersPosted in: NewsQuote from BeRse
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Paragon system looked awesome then they said its for 1 char only! What a nice way to force me to play 1 char.
rip 9 alts
yeah thats sucks!
i like all classes and part of the fun for me is to switch betweens classes and gamemodes (HC/SC) but now i'm forced to chose one character in one gamemode for the next - i quote Jay Wilson - "hundreds and hundreds of hours"
People ask for an end game and something to strive for after they hit 60, they get hundreds of hours of something to do, then complain that they dont want to take that long.
This community, it is a joke. -
Aug 21, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Patch 1.0.4 Interview with Jay Wilson and Andrew ChambersPosted in: NewsQuote from Erixxxx
I'm on that too. I'm personally not really interested in having all of my progress reset overnight.
(yes, I hated that specific part of D2 too)
Ditto here. -
Aug 15, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Patch 1.0.4 Preview: BarbarianAs a Barbarian player, this is really, really nice!Posted in: News
The only thing missing is a buff to Barb Bros and Quake, to make them as potent as WoTB. -
Apr 28, 2012
AudioCG posted a message on Diablo III TV Commercial Airs Sunday on FoxPosted in: News
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You do realize that D3 sold an average of 50-100k boxed units (meaning, not even counting digital copies at all) every WEEK since launch to around the end of July, weekly (yes, WEEKLY) figures are still around 20k for BOXED copies alone, never mind the Black Friday sale on D3 going on right now.
http://www.vgchartz....blo-iii/Global/
So, to be clear, you think there are less the 50k players WORLDWIDE when the game is actually selling MORE then that on a MONTHLY basis?!?!? (not even taking into consideration the 10mil+ user base)
ROFLOL.
What is it like being THAT stupid?
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Actually, both of these guys can 1 shot trash mobs with WW in MP0, I think they can do that up to MP2 or 3.
Or are you thinking 1 shot Elites? Because no, they dont do that.
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lol
Ok, so its become obvious that I'll have to spell it out for you;
He said "Diablo 3 has more players then your FAVORITE GAME"
not
"Diablo 3 has more players then any game ever" or "Diablo 3 has more players then any other game"
Because he was banking on no one willingly admitting that CoD or LoL were their "favorite" games (due to the obvious E hate that would follow), and this seems to have completely fallen outside of your ability to comprehend.
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http://us.battle.net...6/hero/16884320
This guy is awesome, have been in a few games with him.
http://us.battle.net...59/hero/6395374
I have talked with this guy a bunch, he is a murder machine.
Im working on digging up more, have to dig through post history.
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Not sure how forums work?
Or quotes?
Or the English language?
I even bolded it for you....
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Eh...... maybe.
WW has alot of viable uses outside of infinite WoTB.
Dont think for a second that infinite WoTB is the only reason to use WW, constant crits and the exceedingly high AOE hit rate benefit a variety of Barb builds a great deal.
The best Barbs I have seen dont just blindly spec to flavor of the month.
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So................ just to be clear here;
CoD is your "favorite game"?
The only person "owned" here would be you.
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If you kill stuff with a single spin of WW, do you even NEED to maintain infinite WoTB?
*the answer is no
You just respec your skills to provide you with more general damage.
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lol
So.... your contradicting yourself here, you openly "estimate" that Xfire is accounting for around 1/5 of all Diablo 3 players, then go and say "I know most people dont use Xfire".
Are you brain damaged?
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However, what if you just want the challenge? Or if you are hunting for keys?
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Who even uses Xfire?
No seriously, I have never met ANYONE who uses Xfire, anywhere, for anything, ever.
Heres a little bit of reality for you;
You know how the hot topic right now is the massive amount of bots running? You do realize there is no point in botting for gold/gear if there is no one to buy said gold/gear right?
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I have around 4000-5000 hours in D2 under my belt.
I know what you mean, I really do, but I want you to consider something;
In Diablo 2, Hell/Ubers was the PvE end game, Hell was easy, period. So, you did not even need to think about BiS items, exceedingly rare runes, fell sets, etc, etc, etc.
In Diablo 3, you can EASILY play through Normal/Nightmare/Hell without ever even looking at the AH, however, they ADDED Inferno, something Diablo 2 NEVER HAD, content scaled ALL to the level cap.
How many times did you self find a full Enigma in D2? How often did you find a top tier rune? Did you EVER find a "perfect" unique?
Im betting damn near never.
Diablo 3 has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more PvE end game content then Diablo 2 ever did, people are complaining about not finding items that they more then likely NEVER saw in a decade of playing D2.
You dont NEED 100m+ gear to complete Diablo 3, heck, you can more then likely easily finish Inferno (MP0) on self found gear now.
Or did you play D2 with "players8" all the way through? (im betting you didnt)
Do you see the difference? Uber gear in D3 is actually EASIER to find then perfect items were in D2, you dont NEED to finish MP10 in D3 you know, it is just a very long reaching optional goal, meant to add to the overall life of the game.
Open up D2 right now, and take a look at the available games, nothing but Baal/Cow runs and "Trade", all the GaH does is make those trade games less of a pain in the ass, it takes seconds to find what you are looking for now, instead of mucking around for a couple hours talking to people trying to make a deal.
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Bang on.
Balance your MF with para and MP level, find the spot where you can blitz through at a good pace, profit.
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Uh.
Diablo 2 was "built" the EXACT same way, hence the 9845043750837 Baal/Mephy/Pindle/Moo runs every game for around a decade.
Diablo has always been and always will be a game with farming/grinding at the heart of it.
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This, so much this.
Let us Dye/Vanish set/leg pieces, and add like, 20 more dyes to the game.