Sounds like a pretty serious issue. My suggestion is to find one thing you dislike about the game and fixate upon it: talk about it with friends, point out the serious and game-breaking flaw that Blizzard dared to let into their game. With each new patch, eagerly await a fix to this one flaw, only to be disappointed. Expect hotfixes, maybe even come up with your own solution to the problem. Post that solution to the forums, asking for a blue to read and respond 'NOW!!!!111!1'.
When a reply doesn't come (or, even better, your thread is deleted because you're daring to criticise the game, not at all because you violated forum policy), create new threads raging about how Blizzard is the worst company in the history of existence. Maybe throw a Hitler reference in, that always makes you appear rational and reasonable.
After taking these steps, you should find your solution is fixed: you are now an unbridled rage machine, frothing at the mouth and spewing anger and hatred on the forums like venomous bile.
Good luck. Actually enjoying the game is a horrible, horrible disease. I hope you are cured and can join the rest of the official forum community. They're a lovely bunch of people.
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Kisho posted a message on Level 60, still enjoying the game, what am i doing wrong?Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion -
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Malaris posted a message on Level 60, still enjoying the game, what am i doing wrong?I seem to have an unusual problem, i'm level 60, at inferno and am still enjoying the game despite how horrible it is. This seems to be a major problem i can't seem to shake, no matter how hard i try to dislike it, i just can't.Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
Anyone else having this same issue? What can i do to alleviate it? I've tried spending more time at the offical forums, I've read the numerous "game breaking" issues people claim it has, but then i log in and actually play the game and i still enjoy the hell out of it. What am i doing wrong? Can anyone offer some advice? -
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Bleu42 posted a message on A pvp debateWhat I'm for;Posted in: PvP Discussion
Arenas in general seem like they will be a blast. And I'll say I'd support custom matches (who against who, rather than your team against random) because that would be fun.
What I'm not against, but really could care less;
A showable PVP rating
Spectator mode
Replays
What I'm against;
PVP balance that hurts PVE in any way
PVP only gear and / or
Gear / skills that change in pvp or pve
Blizzard: " We do not want D3 to be an Esport, ever." (not the *exact* quote but I'm sure someone has posted it already) Kinda shoots down this whole thread right? I mean the discussion of making D3 into an Esport can and will always go on, but there's no point past trying to get a couple features in.
Personally? I'd take the arena and like it lol. The fact they are dedicating that much to PVP is awesome as it is=P
Edit; Here's the quote just in case:
I know you don't plan to support Diablo 3 to be a eSport - If the commnunity wants it to become a eSport(without the implied balance), would you support it with replays/spectator mode and more ?
JayWilson: No. We don't want Diablo 3 to become an E-sport. It's OK to have PVP just for fun. Our focus is on our PVE game, and we want it to stay there.
It even says right there, even IF the community wanted it, they aren't going to do it. /this damn thread
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Daemaro posted a message on A pvp debateCan we stop making this stuff so personal? I know PvP is about as personal as you can get in a game but can't we all just get along.... at least on the forums?Posted in: PvP Discussion
Save the hate for the PvP arena/duels/whatever we end up with and just keep it a little more civil here please. -
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tanis0 posted a message on A pvp debatePosted in: PvP DiscussionQuote from karsen88
There is nothing more to say in this discussion that hasn't already been said. There is no good that will come from continuing to discuss this issue to death.
Different people value different things when it comes to games. Some people prefer PvE, some PvP. Blizzard has stated they are focusing on making diablo 3 a co-op PvE game on a fundamental level and have made design decesions based on that direction. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry. If you do like that, then awesome.
This.
End of discussion.
But, unfortunately, probably not this. -
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karsen88 posted a message on A pvp debateThere is nothing more to say in this discussion that hasn't already been said. There is no good that will come from continuing to discuss this issue to death.Posted in: PvP Discussion
Different people value different things when it comes to games. Some people prefer PvE, some PvP. Blizzard has stated they are focusing on making diablo 3 a co-op PvE game on a fundamental level and have made design decesions based on that direction. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry. If you do like that, then awesome.
End of discussion. -
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user-12407629 posted a message on Blizzard stance on PvP on april 2012, a summarypotatoPosted in: PvP Discussion -
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NecrosisBob posted a message on Hardcore PVPPosted in: PvP Discussion
Really I thought it was the fun and challenge of it. No wait wait. I'm sorry that must be a PvM only concept. Silly me.That is the end goal for all PvP. -
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kendro1200 posted a message on White Item PVPSome skill and runes require secondary stats in order for them to work. I know the Witch Doctor has a handful of abilities that have their range boosted by the 'gold pick up radius' stat.Posted in: PvP Discussion
I understand where the OP is coming from, but at the same time D3 isn't meant to have a balanced and legit pvp system. The arena pvp system is in there for funzies, not for srs'ness. Restricting pvp to white items only falls into the "for srs'ness" category, and therefore has no place in D3. -
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mavfin posted a message on PvP'ers vs PvM'ersAll of you arguing about relative PvM vs PvP player numbers: Blizzard *knows* the numbers. They own the service, and can look at logs for any time period they want for how many dueled, how many ran X boss, etc.Posted in: PvP Discussion
If PvP (real PvP, not griefers forcing it on people who didn't want PvP) was as important to D2 as some of you think, Blizzard would have come up with a different plan than they have. Your importance to D3 is not nearly as high as you seem to think, with the plan Blizzard is using now.
Having said that, I'm fine with them adding the arenas for you, but I'm not in favor of hostility in the open world.. You can have a hostile area to play in, and I'm sure the PvP patch will have that.
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Diablo 2 might be better for you. As for me, I really like what Blizzard is offering and feel the game will have me playing if for a few years at least. The Arena seems like it will be awesome to jump into and I expect to have a blast with the fast paced PvP.
I don't know how you got what you got out of what I said.. maybe you should stick with Diablo 2 though.
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Hrm...If you cannot enjoy the game without a strong competitive environment, then maybe the game isn't for you...that's not an attack, that's just explaining that Diablo 3 isn't catered towards a highly competitive environment. It's not meant to either, kind of end of story.
I do want to find a middle ground. If I didn't, I wouldn't be attempting to discuss the issues. I am looking forward to Arena and what it'll offer for the community. From playing the Beta, the game will be awesome.
I've given reason and logic. You avoided my question and instead of answering it, you tried to say the negative environment doesn't exist. Where~as my question was posed with reference to it existing. I've also explained where I've gotten my opinions from, and such opinions are based on my experience here on the forums, in other games, from other posters, etc. It is not a baseless opinion and either you have not experienced the same situations, or choose to ignore it.
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Its not as simple as you think. On the surface, sure.. they could do just as you state. However, by offering more eSport~focused features they create an impression that they are supporting eSports. This causes tournament providers to have an expectation that Blizzard is supporting eSport~level PvP. It honestly just creates a ton of unneeded pressure and confusion in the community.
It ends up being a much better option to just outright deny eSport support, not implement eSport~focused features, and focus the game more towards a co~op experience with casual PvP. Creating confusing only ends up leading to continual bad press as they have to continually explain why they do not wish to balance PvP, etc. It really just isn't a good move for them.
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jaco, it is Blizzard's game. There needs to be little other reasons other then 'they said so' honestly. However, if you actually read the posts that Blizzard has posted...they actually explain why they made the decisions that they have made. Here's a link so that you can read it for yourself. I love how you keep saying its Jay Wilson that decided all this as well, when Jay specifically stated that it was the developers that chose a more casual route for PvP.
They aren't neglecting PvP, they just aren't making PvP the way YOU want it. Funny thing is, they are making PvP in a way that many other people want. So your desires trump ours? I'm sorry, but when the overall focus of the game is co~op and the majority of players side with that focus, it seems that the majority's desires should be the desires that Blizzard focuses on. Guess what?! They are!
This game will likely last 2 expansions, maybe more...depending on how much material Blizzard has for the setting. Inferno will keep the majority of players challenged and the random events will keep each play~through different. On top of that, a casual PvP system where you can jump into battle with random players in matched battles purely for entertainment will add even more replay value to the game. It doesn't need competitive PvP in order to be fun, it's got plenty of fun already..and more to come.
Edit: I'd like to add that you keep trying to state that people like myself don't deserve to talk about PvP, when I clearly have an interest in the PvP system being showcased for Diablo 3. I'm sorry, but just because I'm actually for the route that Blizzard has taken doesn't mean I hate PvP. I have just as much right to talk about PvP as you do, if not more...as I actually want the PvP system that Blizzard is offering.
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Depends on the content. Generally 'hard~modes' do take quite awhile by the average player. Even the most hardcore of groups can take weeks to accomplish it. However, there is a big difference between people beating a new instance in a game they already know very well, and beating a brand new game with new mechanics and a ton of unknowns. Noone knows the mechanics of the end~game of Diablo 3 right now beyond the internal testing team. So until people experience Infernal difficulty, we won't possibly be able to know... and stating that you can do it no problem is just you fluffing your ego more.
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Have you played Inferno? I highly doubt you're part of internal testing. Since the internal testers that have played Diablo 3 for years now are stating that it'll likely take 2~3 months, I'm willing to accept that it might actually take that long. Seems like a pretty awesome challenge if they did achieve that level of difficulty. Until it comes out though, neither of us can really know. So the only thing we can possibly go by is Blizzard's word. Anything you say to the contrary is just you fluffing your ego.
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You won? Hardly. Blizzard is supporting PvP, just not the PvP that YOU want. There have been multiple players posting on Diablofans alone specifically stating that they are looking forward to Arena and appreciate that Blizzard has decided to make the focus of the game a more co~op experience. Not every game needs to be turned into an eSport. A game can flourish without highly competitive PvP perfectly fine.
As for ignoring your information, I don't believe I did such a thing. In fact I am pretty sure I responded to your statements quite well.
Now, as to why you are wrong and why Blizzard should NOT add eSport focused features...it's pretty simple...THEY DON'T WANT TO AND IT IS THEIR GAME. How hard is that to grasp? The Diablo 3 developers do not want to make competitive PvP a focus of development for Diablo 3. I could give a bunch more reasons as to why, but you really shouldn't need anymore. It is Blizzard's game and they chose that for this title they would not focus on eSport~related features and instead give a better co~op experience, with added casual PvP. Again, not every game needs to be highly competitive, games can be fun to...you know...play.
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Sure bullies come from both PvP and PvM. However, as there are very little incentives for bullies and easy ways to avoid them.. I don't think they'll be a problem. I mean, I can handle replying to you can't I?
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As for hostility, do I really need to explain WHY it is a bad option to be added to the PvM game? Go read the PvP forum a bit and you should be able to find quite a few reasons already explained. Diablo 3 was not designed with players fighting players during PvM. It has no place in Diablo 3 and the reasons have been made very clear.
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This is a bad idea and essentially boils down to the exact same issues that were present in Diablo 2. Statistics weren't a good choice in Diablo 2 and Blizzard has explained why already. In addition to that, we already have a way to decide if we want more health, more damage, etc...they are called items. However, unlike stats I can choose that I don't need as much health down the road and instead swap it out for some more damage.
Like statistics, your argument is permanence. Locking people into something doesn't magically make the game more fun, in fact it will generally cause more negatives then positives. Again, I'll point out that this issue has been beaten to death and you aren't offering anything that hasn't been brought up before. Allowing players to change their build to adapt try out new builds they see others using will keep people interested much longer then essentially forcing people to re-grind the character to lvl 60 again or grind for reset items. What benefit is achieved by permanence other then creating an artificial barrier for experimentation?
Hostility is a terrible mechanic for Diablo 3. It was so hated in Diablo 2 that the majority of players wanting to just experience the game actually make private games to avoid griefers. This isn't a mechanic that should be re-introduced into the game. If players want some form of no-rules PvP, it should be put as in as an Arena type, not as a way to force PvM players to PvP.
All in all, Diablo 3 is a new game guys. Why implement outdated features that caused more harm then good when Blizzard can actually design new ways of implementing the systems that encourage people to experiment, play with others, and have a ton of fun?