ive tried few 2s with my friend barb, he was making 2-3 globes per coe rotation on boss, and hes not really optimized. and it took me about 2 min to kill yhe boss on 80.
and just a tip, you might wanna start casting at lightning so your stacks ay max when it reaches arcane.
so basically to compare AD with skill dmg, think of it was this way. skill dmg is flat out dmg multuplicitive, and AD scales with density.
assuming 100% of your dmg comes from 1 skill, depending on how much skill dmg inc you have already, its flat dmg.
lets say you have 70% AO dmg already, 170% AO dmg atm, 15% more would put you at 185 AO dmg. thats about bit less than 10% increase in output.
now with AD, it scales with density you have within 10 yd of impact of dmg. Obviously if yoy are fighting 1 target, how much of AD you have gives you 0% dmg increase.
Assuming you have 150% AD. 20% more would put you at 170%. at about 6 mobs. with 150%, 1 AD proc would be 600% of normal dmg, 5*150=750% AD dmg. With 170%, 1AD proc would be 600% normal dmg, and 5*170=850% AD dmg. so 1350% to 1450%, bit less than 10%.
Keep in mind efficiency of AD keeps increasing with density, and that AD wont help you on RG without adds.
Hmm, i just tested quick, with 2.4k Kridershot (i know its as crappy as it possible can be).
Elemental Arrow + Cluster Arrow
Convention of Elements + Unity(i dont have good off ring so :(( )
idea behind it was to pull hatred to use em all on Physical (cluster arrow)
and shot frost elemental arrow constantly. Had to shot 1 or 2 cluster before convention hit.
id say i could push about 46-7 with it if i reroll stuff right and get dense enough grift.
I see about 55 with GG roll Kridershot but maybe im bit optimistic.
Id say if you get ancient kridershot without % dmg nor Disc on it, its worth a try, instead of breaking it down.
wish i didnt give up on it when i heard its crap compare to other 2.
but then again ill never get GG kridershot anyway.
Ah i never knew it had to target a mob to shot with M4 thats something i didnt know.
If thats the case, idk why are there no people pushing with M6, shouldnt be much harder than UE to push up to around 40s at least.
Hmm ima try somethin before new patch comes out i guess.
So M4 is gonna include kridershot affix'd elemental arrow.
Would this make enough push to make it Top Leaderboards?
(With cube, you can have 2 extra sentries + Meticulous Bolts, if u got GG rolled Kridershot < Thats not for me)
Feed me with the ideas.
well You still can access across ocean, no reason for them to waste money for running server for testing.
150ms isnt too bad, i live in US and still get 100ms regularly for some reason
its not "better than that old horadric cube ... cube". If it had similar effect as horadric cube with just little bit more stuff, maybe. Its just using same kind of layout for no specific reason but nostalgic reason, it doesnt extra slot than, the item slot. Honestly i think its waste of effort to make it look similar but oh well. They do completely different things, its not horandric cube.
im not sure how hard t10 is gonna be, but im pretty sure ur gonna be around 100-150% stronger than you are right now, just with new cube thing. it wont take as long as u think it would be to clear a rift for grift keys or whatever will that be.
Complain is a way to put it, feed back is the other way.
We, as consumers, know what Blizzard is capable of and expect something great out of them, just like WoW players are bunch of whiners, I myelf is one of them. And when something great is not happening we just complain, or "feedback" in generous term.
One thing that kills the game is not complains from players, rather opposite, lack or complains. When developers dont see complains, they cant fix the issues, there lays lots of problems but no one to fix, the game loses players, and it dies out.
And im pretty sure Blizzard understands this, and they are more than willing to put out more response toward those complains. In my personal experience blizzard is the most responsive company out there toward their consumers' complaints.
i dont think i put those in complete sense, but
tl;dr: we complain because we care, blizzard gets those complains from us then fix issues: its good thing.
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ive tried few 2s with my friend barb, he was making 2-3 globes per coe rotation on boss, and hes not really optimized. and it took me about 2 min to kill yhe boss on 80.
and just a tip, you might wanna start casting at lightning so your stacks ay max when it reaches arcane.
good luck
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so basically to compare AD with skill dmg, think of it was this way. skill dmg is flat out dmg multuplicitive, and AD scales with density.
assuming 100% of your dmg comes from 1 skill, depending on how much skill dmg inc you have already, its flat dmg.
lets say you have 70% AO dmg already, 170% AO dmg atm, 15% more would put you at 185 AO dmg. thats about bit less than 10% increase in output.
now with AD, it scales with density you have within 10 yd of impact of dmg. Obviously if yoy are fighting 1 target, how much of AD you have gives you 0% dmg increase.
Assuming you have 150% AD. 20% more would put you at 170%. at about 6 mobs. with 150%, 1 AD proc would be 600% of normal dmg, 5*150=750% AD dmg. With 170%, 1AD proc would be 600% normal dmg, and 5*170=850% AD dmg. so 1350% to 1450%, bit less than 10%.
Keep in mind efficiency of AD keeps increasing with density, and that AD wont help you on RG without adds.
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please be respectful of other members
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there is thing called leader board and its competitive game. and botting doesnt affect one's game? go play something different casuals, lmao
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not all dmg increases are multiplicative, like magic weapon and taeguk are additives
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is damage increase from orb of infinite depth multiplicitice or additive?
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Hmm, i just tested quick, with 2.4k Kridershot (i know its as crappy as it possible can be).
Elemental Arrow + Cluster Arrow
Convention of Elements + Unity(i dont have good off ring so :(( )
idea behind it was to pull hatred to use em all on Physical (cluster arrow)
and shot frost elemental arrow constantly. Had to shot 1 or 2 cluster before convention hit.
id say i could push about 46-7 with it if i reroll stuff right and get dense enough grift.
I see about 55 with GG roll Kridershot but maybe im bit optimistic.
Id say if you get ancient kridershot without % dmg nor Disc on it, its worth a try, instead of breaking it down.
wish i didnt give up on it when i heard its crap compare to other 2.
but then again ill never get GG kridershot anyway.
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Ah i never knew it had to target a mob to shot with M4
thats something i didnt know.
If thats the case, idk why are there no people pushing with M6, shouldnt be much harder than UE to push up to around 40s at least.
Hmm ima try somethin before new patch comes out i guess.
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So M4 is gonna include kridershot affix'd elemental arrow.
Would this make enough push to make it Top Leaderboards?
(With cube, you can have 2 extra sentries + Meticulous Bolts, if u got GG rolled Kridershot < Thats not for me)
Feed me with the ideas.
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well You still can access across ocean, no reason for them to waste money for running server for testing.
150ms isnt too bad, i live in US and still get 100ms regularly for some reason
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is Elite dmg Increase from Furnace Legendary Affix? or Can it be extracted by Kanai's Cube?
was there clarification on it or not, couldnt find it
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its not "better than that old horadric cube ... cube". If it had similar effect as horadric cube with just little bit more stuff, maybe. Its just using same kind of layout for no specific reason but nostalgic reason, it doesnt extra slot than, the item slot. Honestly i think its waste of effort to make it look similar but oh well. They do completely different things, its not horandric cube.
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New cube means, u can use new Dead Man's Legacy (currently season only i believe) and meticulous bolt, with Kridershot.
but Proly not the way to go since off hand uses "Weapon" slot for cube.
or You can use any other crossbow or hand crossbow or anything better stats in conjunction with Kridershot affix extracted with Cube
Hand cross bow + krider affix + meticulous bolt would be fun with fast 1Hxbow.
Calamity maybe
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im not sure how hard t10 is gonna be, but im pretty sure ur gonna be around 100-150% stronger than you are right now, just with new cube thing. it wont take as long as u think it would be to clear a rift for grift keys or whatever will that be.
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Complain is a way to put it, feed back is the other way.
We, as consumers, know what Blizzard is capable of and expect something great out of them, just like WoW players are bunch of whiners, I myelf is one of them. And when something great is not happening we just complain, or "feedback" in generous term.
One thing that kills the game is not complains from players, rather opposite, lack or complains. When developers dont see complains, they cant fix the issues, there lays lots of problems but no one to fix, the game loses players, and it dies out.
And im pretty sure Blizzard understands this, and they are more than willing to put out more response toward those complains. In my personal experience blizzard is the most responsive company out there toward their consumers' complaints.
i dont think i put those in complete sense, but
tl;dr: we complain because we care, blizzard gets those complains from us then fix issues: its good thing.