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    posted a message on My thoughts about going beyond Reaper of Souls
    Unless-- going with my previous theory -- we find that the entirety of Nephalem spirits are collected by Trag'Oul, and together they have power rivaling that of the Worldstone. This may open up an avenue for a sidequest to rescue Leah.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on My thoughts about going beyond Reaper of Souls
    But Diablo has to have a goal. I can see every side -- us, the Nephalem; Inarius; and Diablo all vying to destroy the other by means of creating a new reality in their own image.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on My thoughts about going beyond Reaper of Souls
    I have to wonder what the original story for Reaper of Souls was. From what I gathered from lore panels and book lore, the Worldstone was to play a role in the expansion, and Imperius had sided with Malthael. I imagine Urzael took Imperius' place in the campaign, being a fire-themed angel and all.



    Now. How does one up the ante in the Diablo universe at this point? We've defeated the Lords of Hell, leaving Hell powerless. We've saved Heaven. We've saved an invasion of the planet from Malthael. Really, what else IS there? Well, saving the universe, of course! Inarius is going to be hating everyone and everything at this point. But how will he threaten reality without the Worldstone? Is there something else he can use?

    Let's look at Diablo himself and his goal. He has fused the Lords of Hell within himself, but he is not yet Tathemet the Dragon reborn. The only dragon we do know of is Trag'Oul. Trag'Oul represents the Past, Present and Future of Humanity -- for all intents and purposes, its very Fate -- as well as being the Guardian of Balance itself. Now cosmic balance is upset as never been before. Maybe Diablo's actions have, all this time, been meant to lure out Trag'Oul? Would Diablo be able to possess Trag'Oul? Would Diablo have to contend with Inarius in a race against time to capture and use Trag'Oul's powers? Will perverting Trag'Oul result in the enslavement of Nephalem-kind itself?



    In this final great war, I see several sides. Inarius' perverse fusion of Angels and Demons. Diablo and the dregs of Hell (although Hell has replenished itself while everyone's been busy with Malthael). Imperius leading a tattered Heaven. Isolationist refugee humans. And Nephalem, sick and tired of constant invasion, bent on conquering the other two realms. It's like this sad smorgasbord of cosmic-wide hate and revenge.

    There's a surprising number of ways the story can continue.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on My thoughts about going beyond Reaper of Souls
    I think the Horadrim disappearing at Skovos was a joke; they were probably too distracted by the natives. ;)

    It's implied that Inarius grew fond of humanity from the time he spent with them, coupled with the fact that they've had their Nephalem powers sapped. Who doesn't like a tiger cub over the tiger?

    I can see Inarius coming back. He would be a twisted creature, a fusion of angelic and demonic essence, a living parallel to the Pandemonium Fortress. I think he would seek to undo all Creation, save for Sanctuary. He could resurface, leading a legion of demons and fallen angels from the depths. Over time, angels may defect to his cause, weakening Heaven. Finally, after releasing Lillith, he would try to harness Humanity's emerging Nephalem powers. This is the point where the Crusader's jest to Auriel in Heaven during Diablo III proves foreshadowing; representatives all across Sanctuary must decide whether to join Inarius or oppose him. A new Nephalem civil war erupts.

    In the end, a new world is created, leading to the Diablo MMO! :P
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on "Angels and demons do not choose, as it should be."
    Diablo's plans have included both the elimination of his fellow Great Evils, as well as the members of the Angiris Council. He stoked Imperius' fire, leading him to become more erratic. After Malthael's departure, Imperius became unrestrained and turned on Tyrael. Tyrael was the next to fall, stripping the Angiris Council of Justice. With Justice, Wisdom and Valor gone, Heaven now only has Fate and Hope left in the face of Imperius' Wrath. Neither of these two have been explored in any detail, leading me to hope they will play a larger role in coming chapters. We also have to consider the possibility that Diablo has somehow incorporated either the aspect of Death or Malthael's essence in some way.



    Trag'Oul is basically humanity's soul, representing their Past, Present and Future in one. Could Trag'Oul therefor be tied to Fate? Might Diablo, this entire time, be trying to lure Trag'Oul out from hiding to force a confrontation? Perhaps he even wants to possess Trag'Oul! How wicked would that be?
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    posted a message on Regarding great evils and their souls
    The Soulstones were carved from the Worldstone, the only artefact powerful enough to contain the Evils. Unfortunately, Izual told them of a way to subvert their intended purpose, and harness their powers for their own.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Next Expansion Speculation
    If there is another expansion I doubt the Necromancers will figure too heavily in it simply because the Reaper of Souls focused so heavily on the theme of death, but I can see the Cult of Rathma and Trag'Oul may be involved somehow. Trag'Oul himself is said to embody the Past, Present and Future of Humanity, so I can see it. He was so interested in keeping the affairs of Heaven and Hell out of Sanctuary, so I wonder if he will intercede to try and limit Humanity's power himself.

    But of course there's the question, What's more powerful than Prime Diablo devoured by Malthael? Perhaps Prime Diablo having devoured the whole of the Angiris Council? Or maybe Prime Diablo fused with Trag'Oul himself! Maybe, through some circumlocuitive route, Diablo's ultimate plan was to force Trag'Oul to reveal himself so he can fuse with him and forever change Balance in his favor?
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Regarding great evils and their souls
    The Prime Evils never needed the Soulstones. After they were killed and banished during the Dark Exile, the spirits of Diablo, Mephisto and Baal would inhabit human bodies, which would slowly twist into a simulation of their true forms. The Prime Evils did this repeatedly, until the Horadrim began to hunt them. The Horadrim used the Soul stones to trap the Prime Evils' spirits. It was from that point on that they were bound to the Soulstones.

    Thus, Azmodan and Belial likewise do not need Soulstones.

    Finally, we have no idea how the Prime Evils came back, and Blizzard hasn't tried to answer that question. All we know is that, although their souls were supposed to be sent to the Black Abyss, they wound up in the Black Soulstone. Unless Zoltun Kulle crafted the Black Soulstone as a piece of the Black Abyss itself.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Next Expansion Speculation
    Unless Imperius has already been infected by Diablo with the stabbing him, or through the Black Soulstone's time in Heaven, I don't see how Imperius could work with Diablo. He hates demons -- especialy Diablo -- above all other things, Humans included.
    I could the next expansion pulling a Halo 4. In this version, Imperius takes the Didact's role. As Heaven acquiesces to the ascendant Nephalem, Imperius oposes it with everything in his being, perhas finding the Worldstone and trying to recreate this reality.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Next Expansion Speculation
    They dropped hints of it being about Lilith in the next expansion so hard they might as well have just written it in neon lighting in Maltheal's boss room.

    I guess I missed those. Remind me again?
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Imperius theories?
    Malthael was the former leader of the Angiris council but abandoned his post. He was very well respected by Imperius, but it was obvious to even him that Malthael had fallen to corruption; Malthael tasked his agents with destroying Heaven's portal to Pandemonium, and several Angels were caught in the cross fire. Imperius' honor could no longer allow him to stand by and watch, but his compassion for his former friend also wouldn't let him kill Malthael outright, either. Hence why he tasked us.





    One thing I did notice about Imperius is that his voice has changed; more effects have been added since D3 vanilla. I don't know if this is just a cosmetic change, or hints at a change in his character.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on 2nd Expac Story REVEALED? POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILERS
    So, Enty, you're going to have to post a link to the video or article for me, because I'm clearly looking at the wrong version of The Making Of ROS's Cinematic. :\
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on (SPOILERS) Maltheal and the Power of Death
    So you're saying that the Worldstone's "destruction" was just Tyrael eliminating the containing vessel, a shell, which revealed its true nature: Anu's spiritual power, which is embodied in Nephalem spirits? Makes sense, and explains the "Soul Prison" at the heart of Pandemonium.



    But did Malthael not realize the true nature of the Soul Prison/Worldstone, then? He could not recognize Anu's being, as it was composed of Nephalem spirits? Was Baal's influence 20 years before still that powerful?



    Or, perhaps Malthael DID see it for what it was for, but attempted to do two things at once; 1.) Win the Eternal Conflict, and 2.) Purify the Worldstone of Baal's influence by overpowering it with Angelic essence (Nephalem spirit minus their demonic heritage)?
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Quick question about Malthael
    It's never really addressed. Lore transcripts you find in Pandemonium show that Malthael felt and heard the voices of human souls, which summoned him from Pandemonium Fortress. Whether these were stray souls, or spirits trapped in the Soul Prison, is never stated.
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    posted a message on Guess RoS Ending!
    Having watched some leaked vids and Let's Plays, I can say this about RoS...





    We fight and kill Urzael, Malthael's lieutenant, and thereby halt the reaping of Westmarch; and confront Adria, after she takes on a demonic form. Prior to Adria's death, however, we learn through her connection to Diablo that the Black Soulstone is in Pandemonium Fortress, and that Diablo will find release. When Tyrael learns of the Soulstone's location, he opens a portal to Heaven through which to traverse to Pandemonium. However, en route a squad of Malthael's Reapers attack you and Heaven, earning Imperius' ire. Imperius escorts you through to pandemonium, where he tasks you with "releasing" his brother from the grip of madness. Along the way, you stumble upon a well of souls, which grants you power over death -- enough to face Malthael on equal footing. While in Pandemonium, Malthael taunts you with the knowledge that his modifications to the Black Soulstone are done, and the Soulstone is now located in Sanctuary where it is harvesting the souls of humanity.
    This is where things get a little muddled, since not all of the cutscenes are in the beta to be mined. At some point the Black Soulstone is pulled back to Pandemonium. Desperate, Malthael consumes it and gains the power of Diablo, Mephisto and Baal. Even so we kill him, but Diablo is set loose once again. In the aftermath, Imperius and Tyrael look upon the Hero in awe and horror. They know now, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that nothing in Creation can stop the Nephalem.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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