I just got Full Tal Rasha just now and I have no clue on what kind of Sorc I should make. I was thinking of either Fire or Lighting. Leaning more on the Lighting side because of the high damage I heard you can do and clearing fast runs. On the other hand, I was thinking Fire Sorc just for the hell of it since I head Fireballs can do 17k? Not sure on that one.
The majoirty of my Sorc will be made for MF'ing.
Anyone got a guide, Item list, and stat point list?
Thanks guys,
*I can afford pretty much good gear, if not, I will try my best*
If you're aiming to MF in Hell, I highly suggest a Blizzard build. They're kind of boring, but they offer slow + moderately high damage (pretty good damage if multiple shots hit your enemy from your Blizzard), and the monsters around Andarial aren't cold immune unless there's a super unique monster. Also good for Mephy when you glitch him.
Fire and Lighting- Fire you always need to be facing your opponent unless you use meteor, which you need to time perfectly. Same with Lightning except that Lightning is the best build for the Sorceress but only if you have an Infinity.
So I'd suggest either a pure Blizzard build or some manner of hybrid build (like Orber/CL, similar to what Daemaro said, or FB/Blizz). With a hybrid what you lack in raw power you make up for in diversified elemental spells.
theres cons and pros to them all......id go lite....but you need really good gear to pvp with a lite sorc.....fb is great to but in hell theres a shit ton of immunies to it.....blizz is great and so is orb but orb tends to need more expensive gear to be worthwhile
If your a tals sorc MFing mainly then I say go blizz
Blizzard does not need great gear to work. You can easily MF in Hell with Blizzard assuming you know the tricks of the trade- Andy, Meph. Period.
And with Mephy you always lead him so that he gets stuck somewhere while you cast so he can't hurt you. Andy you simply run and cast while she follows behind. You barely even get hit.
Lightning is the best build but will ONLY work well if you have Infinity.
Fire is best for PVP and I would never recommend it for MFing unless it's part of a hybrid build.
Indeed MF'ing with a blizz sorc has always been my favourite but I ALWAYS use a light sorc to MF now. My main reason is the cold/fire immunes in Hell. I can do a lot more with a light sorc and a good merc. I disagree with the light sorc only working with Infinity. You should definitely be working towards that but the light sorc was always the first char I'd make and it still worked well in getting me that infinity.
You dont need an infinity to MF well with a lite sorc....it can help a fuck ton but its far far far from necessary
It's nearly pointless to otherwise. Because it lacks knock-back, slowing, or anything close to a "cast and run" skill like Blizzard or Meteor it makes it very un-ideal for people with lower-end gear, or even Tal Rasha's.
It's nearly pointless to otherwise. Because it lacks knock-back, slowing, or anything close to a "cast and run" skill like Blizzard or Meteor it makes it very un-ideal for people with lower-end gear, or even Tal Rasha's.
Im well aware you need decent gear to be a good MFing lite sorc but you can still MF fine without an infinity almost as well as fire if not better....not as good as blizz or orb tho
You can make a really cheap life leech tank which works well with a light sorc. My personal fav is a 2x Shaeled Bonehew along with Andy's Visage and whatever armor you can find with life leech. Stealskull works as a temp I suppose.
Orber is best to mf with imo, here is a vid to prove it (You can do the same with a fire or light sorc, but the maxing of cold mastery is what makes frozen orb rape)
When ever ladder resets I would start with an orber for mf. I would mf meph and ancient tunnels in act 2.
edit: like the guy that made the vid said, Moat trick is for pussies lol
Guess what? You can do that in less than an eight of the length of that video with even a weak Blizzard, thus allowing for more runs in less time. Better MFing.
ok, this was a suggestion thread. and now you have turned it into an argument thread so please just let the argument drop and leave suggestions
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Guess what? You can do that in less than an eight of the length of that video with even a weak Blizzard, thus allowing for more runs in less time. Better MFing.
Well... at least you don't have to moat like a pansy;)
I personally use a Fire Sorc with a barb merc and I'm level 85 now and I MF with her too. I've also had to dump points into Orb though because it's impossible to get through hell with fire alone. I should note that I rarely ever play with anyone, so I'm normally doing everything solo.
I guess it boils down to what you want to do....there are lots of good builds out there. I would say don't be afraid to try something different; sometimes it makes things more fun.
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I'm going to go with a Light sorc. I do have Infinity on my Pally merc which I can take off. Other than that, what skills sould I put in and what items shall I use? I want this to be a good character so I can MF through hell and still do loads of damage.
I'm going to go with a Light sorc. I do have Infinity on my Pally merc which I can take off. Other than that, what skills sould I put in and what items shall I use? I want this to be a good character so I can MF through hell and still do loads of damage.
So,
Skills + Armor + Stats?
Thank you so much everyone !^_^
If you wanna MF mainly well you dont need insane damage items really epically with a infinity merc lol.....but heres the usual gear, keep in mind im not gonna tell you what breakpoints you should hit thats entirely up to you since your mfing and its not really a big deal anyways for PVM, now if you wanted to own in pvp its a different story
Helm - Shako, or griffs
Ammy - Arma fletch or maras or tals
armor - skins, tals, skulders, coh, all work and all are great
belt - arach, tals, upped gold wrap
rings - nagels, sojs, bks, crazy FCR rings
Boots - travs or some nutty rare duped boots(shanks, spurs)
Wep - Hoto, wizzy, occy, schutas, baba, gull, id go with occy for mfing...gives u a bit of everything u need tho wizzy and hoto are also great, chutas does not give u a ton of damage like people say it does but it still a decent option
Shield - Spirit or SS....I prefer SS but spirit is nuts hard to say whats better,,,depends if you want the cast rate or not
Wep switch - CTA + spirit
Inventory - bunch of light gcs anni torch gheeds and maybe a few mf scs and save some room for picking stuff up
Merc - infinity, Gstone or fort, coa for the helm or a shako maybe a gaze if you want the leech
your stats depend on if you want to go ES or all vita not, and wether you want Max block or not.....thats up to you and I cant really say whats the best for MFing really since it hardly matters tho some ppl will say ones better then the other but if your killing shit fast it really dont matter
Skills are just 1 to warmth, 1 to tele 1 to ES and the rest into lightning and its snyergies and mastery....obviously if you want to use ES and have a ton of energy then you would pump up telekenesis a lot but thats up to you
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I just got Full Tal Rasha just now and I have no clue on what kind of Sorc I should make. I was thinking of either Fire or Lighting. Leaning more on the Lighting side because of the high damage I heard you can do and clearing fast runs. On the other hand, I was thinking Fire Sorc just for the hell of it since I head Fireballs can do 17k? Not sure on that one.
The majoirty of my Sorc will be made for MF'ing.
Anyone got a guide, Item list, and stat point list?
Thanks guys,
*I can afford pretty much good gear, if not, I will try my best*
I think Fire is more standard.
Fire and Lighting- Fire you always need to be facing your opponent unless you use meteor, which you need to time perfectly. Same with Lightning except that Lightning is the best build for the Sorceress but only if you have an Infinity.
So I'd suggest either a pure Blizzard build or some manner of hybrid build (like Orber/CL, similar to what Daemaro said, or FB/Blizz). With a hybrid what you lack in raw power you make up for in diversified elemental spells.
need to update my sig lol >_<
If your a tals sorc MFing mainly then I say go blizz
And with Mephy you always lead him so that he gets stuck somewhere while you cast so he can't hurt you. Andy you simply run and cast while she follows behind. You barely even get hit.
Lightning is the best build but will ONLY work well if you have Infinity.
Fire is best for PVP and I would never recommend it for MFing unless it's part of a hybrid build.
You dont need an infinity to MF well with a lite sorc....it can help a fuck ton but its far far far from necessary
It's nearly pointless to otherwise. Because it lacks knock-back, slowing, or anything close to a "cast and run" skill like Blizzard or Meteor it makes it very un-ideal for people with lower-end gear, or even Tal Rasha's.
Im well aware you need decent gear to be a good MFing lite sorc but you can still MF fine without an infinity almost as well as fire if not better....not as good as blizz or orb tho
When ever ladder resets I would start with an orber for mf. I would mf meph and ancient tunnels in act 2.
edit: like the guy that made the vid said, Moat trick is for pussies lol
thank you for your Co opperation and have a nice Day
need to update my sig lol >_<
Come on, don't be hater, we are having fun here, even a Mod is arguing don't try to be a wanna be mod lol
Well... at least you don't have to moat like a pansy;)
I guess it boils down to what you want to do....there are lots of good builds out there. I would say don't be afraid to try something different; sometimes it makes things more fun.
As for a guide or list; this is the most extensive one I know of http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=10971928399&sid=3000
Runescape
SnitchSeeker
Mugglenet
Maplestory
Flyff
Guild Wars
Everquest (Admin not mod)
Everquest2 (again admin)
Anarchy Online
Eternal Online
FreeRealms (i know a kids game)
and a few others but please uphold the rules
and i still think a Light sorc w/ infinity merc
or Orb sorc
need to update my sig lol >_<
I'm going to go with a Light sorc. I do have Infinity on my Pally merc which I can take off. Other than that, what skills sould I put in and what items shall I use? I want this to be a good character so I can MF through hell and still do loads of damage.
So,
Skills + Armor + Stats?
Thank you so much everyone !^_^
If you wanna MF mainly well you dont need insane damage items really epically with a infinity merc lol.....but heres the usual gear, keep in mind im not gonna tell you what breakpoints you should hit thats entirely up to you since your mfing and its not really a big deal anyways for PVM, now if you wanted to own in pvp its a different story
Helm - Shako, or griffs
Ammy - Arma fletch or maras or tals
armor - skins, tals, skulders, coh, all work and all are great
belt - arach, tals, upped gold wrap
rings - nagels, sojs, bks, crazy FCR rings
Boots - travs or some nutty rare duped boots(shanks, spurs)
Wep - Hoto, wizzy, occy, schutas, baba, gull, id go with occy for mfing...gives u a bit of everything u need tho wizzy and hoto are also great, chutas does not give u a ton of damage like people say it does but it still a decent option
Shield - Spirit or SS....I prefer SS but spirit is nuts hard to say whats better,,,depends if you want the cast rate or not
Wep switch - CTA + spirit
Inventory - bunch of light gcs anni torch gheeds and maybe a few mf scs and save some room for picking stuff up
Merc - infinity, Gstone or fort, coa for the helm or a shako maybe a gaze if you want the leech
your stats depend on if you want to go ES or all vita not, and wether you want Max block or not.....thats up to you and I cant really say whats the best for MFing really since it hardly matters tho some ppl will say ones better then the other but if your killing shit fast it really dont matter
Skills are just 1 to warmth, 1 to tele 1 to ES and the rest into lightning and its snyergies and mastery....obviously if you want to use ES and have a ton of energy then you would pump up telekenesis a lot but thats up to you