Lots of other things are called Diablo. It used to be hard to find the Diablo 1 manual online cause you'd always get something about a car. Ping clubs are the best, by the way.
Didn't we first see that style font with the announcement? So, if the clubs used those graphics in 2002, they were out there about five years earlier. Funny, I was thinking of "starcraft" tent trailer stuff yesterday for some reason, which go back to the 1970s. I guess there's a lot of time for golf when you take a dozen years to make a game.
Notice the logo in gray to the top of the wordings, some resemblance to demons or even the Lord of Terror?
Also, the font might have been deliberately changed to avoid any accusations.
Then again, Diablo in Spanish (I think) means devil or demon right? So technically anyone using diablo will link to demons and such
This is all fun to speculate, but hard to believe
I doubt the two artists that made each of the logos had even seen the other one, disregarding which was made first.
Sure? Very high income, competitive streak, no real time pressure at work... that's the profile of a golfer. Sound like the profile of someone who might work at the big B, too?
I have a Big Bertha Diablo driver, it wails. Also, gheed, your "profile of a golfer" is horrid and misinformed. Now god is gonna divide by zero right above your house tonight.
Seriously though. I'm a gamer, I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world (with huge and unrelenting pressure from deadlines), and I play golf. I'm also a musician and cyclist. Not trying to brag, I'm just offended by your stereotypes. People from any walk of like can do anything, if they want to.
On-topic: Diablo is a word, can't copyright it. Like someone else said, I'm sure there's not much communication between the art/marketing departments of Callaway Golf and Blizzard Entertainment.
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I have a Big Bertha Diablo driver, it wails. Also, gheed, your "profile of a golfer" is horrid and misinformed. Now god is gonna divide by zero right above your house tonight.
Seriously though. I'm a gamer, I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world (with huge and unrelenting pressure from deadlines), and I play golf. I'm also a musician and cyclist. Not trying to brag, I'm just offended by your stereotypes. People from any walk of like can do anything, if they want to.
On-topic: Diablo is a word, can't copyright it. Like someone else said, I'm sure there's not much communication between the art/marketing departments of Callaway Golf and Blizzard Entertainment.
Well, I don't live in Cairns, I think she's busy elsewhere tonight...As for "huge and unrelenting pressure" - those guys work there too, but we know what project they don't work on...And, honestly, it doesn't take much "communication" to rip-off a six-letter logo design where the only distnictive feature is the left 'A' dipping underneath the implied underline.
I have a Big Bertha Diablo driver, it wails. Also, gheed, your "profile of a golfer" is horrid and misinformed. Now god is gonna divide by zero right above your house tonight.
Seriously though. I'm a gamer, I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world (with huge and unrelenting pressure from deadlines), and I play golf. I'm also a musician and cyclist. Not trying to brag, I'm just offended by your stereotypes. People from any walk of like can do anything, if they want to.
On-topic: Diablo is a word, can't copyright it. Like someone else said, I'm sure there's not much communication between the art/marketing departments of Callaway Golf and Blizzard Entertainment.
And, honestly, it doesn't take much "communication" to rip-off a six-letter logo design where the only distnictive feature is the left 'A' dipping underneath the implied underline.
It would seem that the main point of that article is "Blizzard also owns a pending U.S. intent-to-use trademark application for Diablo in connection with the production and distribution of motion pictures." Which really has nothing to do with the logo. I'm certainly no expert on intellectual property laws, but the Diablo logo, including the swooping 'A' shouldn't be subject to copyright due to the Threshold of originality.
I'm certainly no expert on intellectual property laws, but the Diablo logo, including the swooping 'A' shouldn't be subject to copyright due to the Threshold of originality.
Of course, golf clubs and games are about as different as it gets. Like computer and record companies.
I doubt the two artists that made each of the logos had even seen the other one, disregarding which was made first.
Sure? Very high income, competitive streak, no real time pressure at work... that's the profile of a golfer. Sound like the profile of someone who might work at the big B, too?
Haha, very nice reasoning, very hopeful/imaginative to
But its what Don G said that's believable
d anyone can make a similar logo as long as it's not the same logo (down to the last detail).
Are you absolutely sure about that? People have been sued for far less my friend. If either company wanted to make a case against the other for font forgery, they would have something.
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Well, the font is clearly different. Look at the little hooks that come off the D, B, and O on the Diablo logo. They aren't there on the golf club. The only similarity is the swooping A, which isn't enough to constitute anything. In the USA, fonts can't be trademarked or copyrighted, though you can patent them.
I don't know if Don G is an expert in american IP law, but he's probably right enough in this case. Where the courts come down hard is when you try to mislead the consumer. B had released Diablo with a clear trademark notification six years before (and defended that trademark in the courts against a movie just one year before) the clubs AND no one would confuse a golf club with a computer game. Still, it is funny - it isn't just the specific difference in the font, it's also the color scheme and distinctive new style of the field, with white lettering pink-under-red outline graphic under both.
We'll see what's really going on if they call the next one Diablo FORE.
Obviously one has ripped off from the other. Who do you think did ?
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Looks like the line goes back to 2002.
Didn't we first see that style font with the announcement? So, if the clubs used those graphics in 2002, they were out there about five years earlier. Funny, I was thinking of "starcraft" tent trailer stuff yesterday for some reason, which go back to the 1970s. I guess there's a lot of time for golf when you take a dozen years to make a game.
Also, the font might have been deliberately changed to avoid any accusations.
Then again, Diablo in Spanish (I think) means devil or demon right? So technically anyone using diablo will link to demons and such
This is all fun to speculate, but hard to believe
Sure? Very high income, competitive streak, no real time pressure at work... that's the profile of a golfer. Sound like the profile of someone who might work at the big B, too?
I have a Big Bertha Diablo driver, it wails. Also, gheed, your "profile of a golfer" is horrid and misinformed. Now god is gonna divide by zero right above your house tonight.
Seriously though. I'm a gamer, I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world (with huge and unrelenting pressure from deadlines), and I play golf. I'm also a musician and cyclist. Not trying to brag, I'm just offended by your stereotypes. People from any walk of like can do anything, if they want to.
On-topic: Diablo is a word, can't copyright it. Like someone else said, I'm sure there's not much communication between the art/marketing departments of Callaway Golf and Blizzard Entertainment.
-Thomas Jefferson
Well, I don't live in Cairns, I think she's busy elsewhere tonight...As for "huge and unrelenting pressure" - those guys work there too, but we know what project they don't work on...And, honestly, it doesn't take much "communication" to rip-off a six-letter logo design where the only distnictive feature is the left 'A' dipping underneath the implied underline.
And as for your copyright point...
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Blizzard Entertainment Awarded Court Order Upholding Diablo Trademark.-a076422764
This actually went against Hollywood etiquette in a big way, BTW (suing over a title). Wonder why we still haven't seen a movie from them?
It would seem that the main point of that article is "Blizzard also owns a pending U.S. intent-to-use trademark application for Diablo in connection with the production and distribution of motion pictures." Which really has nothing to do with the logo. I'm certainly no expert on intellectual property laws, but the Diablo logo, including the swooping 'A' shouldn't be subject to copyright due to the Threshold of originality.
Of course, golf clubs and games are about as different as it gets. Like computer and record companies.
Haha, very nice reasoning, very hopeful/imaginative to
But its what Don G said that's believable
Are you absolutely sure about that? People have been sued for far less my friend. If either company wanted to make a case against the other for font forgery, they would have something.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I don't know if Don G is an expert in american IP law, but he's probably right enough in this case. Where the courts come down hard is when you try to mislead the consumer. B had released Diablo with a clear trademark notification six years before (and defended that trademark in the courts against a movie just one year before) the clubs AND no one would confuse a golf club with a computer game. Still, it is funny - it isn't just the specific difference in the font, it's also the color scheme and distinctive new style of the field, with white lettering pink-under-red outline graphic under both.
We'll see what's really going on if they call the next one Diablo FORE.