the only good thing about that chest is that you gain damage and defense in same time, if you go pure damage you will always choose strength.
Strength multiplier scales from all your thorns damage, and thorns you gain from heart of iron are only small part of your overall thorns. Main sources of thorns are your thorns gems, thats why strength will be always better. Heart of iron is worth around 50k thorns damage while your weapon gem is worth 65k and your legendary gem will give you over 100k when leveled. It is very possible that in the end of they day we wont even use heart of iron for cookie cutter build.
the only good thing about that chest is that you gain damage and defense in same time, if you go pure damage you will always choose strength.
Strength multiplier scales from all your thorns damage, and thorns you gain from heart of iron are only small part of your overall thorns. Main sources of thorns are your thorns gems, thats why strength will be always better. Heart of iron is worth around 50k thorns damage while your weapon gem is worth 65k and your legendary gem will give you over 100k when leveled. It is very possible that in the end of they day we wont even use heart of iron for cookie cutter build.
There really isn't anything better in the armor slot for Thorns other than Heart of Iron and Aquila Cuirass.
I finnaly tested the ptr nerf....and i must say its not good.
Before nerf i cleared a gr65 at 12.03, now i wasnt even close to make it..tried it twice and then gave up.
And no i didnt have a perfect rift before nerf..and no i didnt have any good gr´s today either, soo much the same gr´s.
And i hade same setup and same gear ofc.
I think they just nerfed it to much, i would say give back the 50% on set.
ty very much blizz..
Well obviously we're still in a decent spot with both Season and Non-season getting 84 and 82 clears. I did a 67 the other day rather easily and had to back it down to 60 today and it went well. Was a rather crap density and really not a lot of elite packs to write home about and finished with enough time at GR60. Now I have 0 ancients. So being able to do GR60 with no Ancients makes me feel like we're fine.
Funny thing, you don't even need Invoker with this gem for high GR clears. Just saw a sader clear 80+ using Thorns with LoN + Bombardment belt/weapon and high CDR. Fun stuff!
The only 80+ Im seeing that isn't 100% Invoker based is Slayertrg, but he's using 4pc Akkhan, 2 pc Invoker, and Norvald's with a ton of CDR on the build. In all honesty, I tried a not fully optimized of the barb build posted here and the lack of AoE is what hurts thorns in the long run. 2pc Invoker is what makes thorns damage viable past 60s.
Nice seeing a Hammer build on the upper side of the leader boards.
The only 80+ Im seeing that isn't 100% Invoker based is Slayertrg, but he's using 4pc Akkhan, 2 pc Invoker, and Norvald's with a ton of CDR on the build. In all honesty, I tried a not fully optimized of the barb build posted here and the lack of AoE is what hurts thorns in the long run. 2pc Invoker is what makes thorns damage viable past 60s.
Nice seeing a Hammer build on the upper side of the leader boards.
81 in 13:28 on Season 5, chinese name. Uses Bombardment + LoN.
Has anyone thought of using Act 1 legendary bracer: Sanguinary Bracers in cube instead of heart of iron in cube? The one that has a chance To deal 1000% of your thorns damage dealt in a AoE. But still keep Aquila Cuirass of course. Thats heart of iron 500% vs 1000% from sanguinary bracers. What do you guys think?
Just a quick note about heart of iron:
the only good thing about that chest is that you gain damage and defense in same time, if you go pure damage you will always choose strength.
Strength multiplier scales from all your thorns damage, and thorns you gain from heart of iron are only small part of your overall thorns. Main sources of thorns are your thorns gems, thats why strength will be always better. Heart of iron is worth around 50k thorns damage while your weapon gem is worth 65k and your legendary gem will give you over 100k when leveled. It is very possible that in the end of they day we wont even use heart of iron for cookie cutter build.
There really isn't anything better in the armor slot for Thorns other than Heart of Iron and Aquila Cuirass.
Funny thing, you don't even need Invoker with this gem for high GR clears. Just saw a sader clear 80+ using Thorns with LoN + Bombardment belt/weapon and high CDR. Fun stuff!
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The only 80+ Im seeing that isn't 100% Invoker based is Slayertrg, but he's using 4pc Akkhan, 2 pc Invoker, and Norvald's with a ton of CDR on the build. In all honesty, I tried a not fully optimized of the barb build posted here and the lack of AoE is what hurts thorns in the long run. 2pc Invoker is what makes thorns damage viable past 60s.
Nice seeing a Hammer build on the upper side of the leader boards.
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Has anyone thought of using Act 1 legendary bracer: Sanguinary Bracers in cube instead of heart of iron in cube? The one that has a chance To deal 1000% of your thorns damage dealt in a AoE. But still keep Aquila Cuirass of course. Thats heart of iron 500% vs 1000% from sanguinary bracers. What do you guys think?
Woops, Yeah. I thought my way around it lol. I found my answer to gearing invoker as well. My bad.
Still have hopes that invoker will be good!