Anyone ever realize that Goku is like... the worst father/husband ever? He was never at home, shit I think Piccolo basically raised Gohan.
Once your hair turns gold and you can blast away planets, this is minor detail. Besides, I don't watch DBZ to see Goku doing candle-lit diners with Chichi or take Gohan to the park.
On a side note, he did spend 1 year in the hyperbolic chamber with only his son. Sure he was firing beams at him that would kill anybody else but there's some special fatherly love right there.
But unfortunately, that's just speculation right now. Those CERN labs( or whatever they're called) can calculate much much further than just a nano second. I nanosecond is fast yes. But those machines are so advanced that an error in a nanosecond seems fairly unlikely considering they can accurately tell time down to attoseconds. That is one quintillionth of a second. The equivalent of a second to 300 million years. Where, a nanosecond is much much longer. Nanoseconds are huge for these machines.
Also, these guys are professionals. They obviously know what they're doing. There's a reason this stuff hasn't been thrown to the curb yet. They convinced the scientific community that there is merit in the experiment. At least enough to do further tests.
You can be as skeptical as you want but it won't mean anything until the data is tested. Either way, time and space do not exist.
"A human being is a part of the whole called by us "the universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest - a kind of optical illusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening the circle of understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." - Albert Einstein
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Anyone ever realize that Goku is like... the worst father/husband ever? He was never at home, shit I think Piccolo basically raised Gohan.
Once your hair turns gold and you can blast away planets, this is minor detail. Besides, I don't watch DBZ to see Goku doing candle-lit diners with Chichi or take Gohan to the park.
On a side note, he did spend 1 year in the hyperbolic chamber with only his son. Sure he was firing beams at him that would kill anybody else but there's some special fatherly love right there.
My favorite thing though has to be the fact he didn't see Goten until he was six. Sure he was dead but he came back temporarily to fight in a tournament but couldn't be bothered to see his son. LOL
For one, the error margin allowed in the experiment is non-existent. They measured a 0,00000006 second difference (60 nanoseconds) compared to what they expected (and claimed a 10 nanosecond accuracy). In 60 nanoseconds, light travels roughly 18 meters, so even a slight (couple meters) of error in calculating the distance between where the neutrino was sent and where it was received would account for the result.
And how can you know that time and space do not exist?
I don't KNOW anything. But...I believe it.
Obviously I'm aware that the chance of time and space not mattering during my physical existence is pretty slim but I'm not going to rule it out. I still have to keep track of time and space like everyone else. But, I think our logical process is capable of understanding that it's an "illusion" in one way or another. Especially time. Space on the other hand can only be theoretically unraveled for me. Since it's so physically here it's hard to disprove something like that.
But time is a little more conceptual. We don't actually have any sense at all that detects time. We have senses that detect change. Which is a huge difference. Our brains collect that change and logically explain it as passing time. And I think if you can distinguish that change and time are different, you can begin to rule out the concept of time all together. Which there in rules out space.
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Ya, I know what the theory of relativity is, thanks.
We do not have a sense to perceive time. What you are talking about measuring is nothing more than an idea. You're measuring something that we created. We cannot perceive time without the idea of it. Where as, we simply see and feel space. We don't have to measure anything to perceive space. Our senses do that for us.
By concept, yes time and space is the same thing. But the key difference is that we can perceive space without thinking about it.
Are animals bound by time? Of course they live and die, but that isn't the same thing. Since (i assume) they are completely unaware of the concept of time, do they live their lives based on the future and past? I don't think they do. They are not perceiving time. They are only perceiving now. And now is all there is. One singular moment. And "moment" is the only way language can really describe this since it isn't even that.
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-Winged
But we have a built-in biological clock as well. We feel sleepy when time approaches night, and we wake up at sunrise. We are most productive during a certain period of the day. Our body is programmed to use the sun as a clock, and alters our body processes accordingly. We could very well use the levels of certain hormones which the body uses to drive life processes as a rudimentary clock.
OOhhhh Circadian rhythms I know about them. I had to write an essay on it for a neuro anatamy unit.
The circadian clock located in the suprachiasmatic nucleus(SCN) of the anterior hypothalamus is thought to drive daily rhythms of behaviour such as locomotory activity and the sleep wake cycle through “temporal organization of neurobehavioural, physiological and biochemical variables”(Moore-ede et al. 1982 in Saper et al. 2006 p487). Although transplant studies have shown that the circadian clock in the SCN is vital for establishment of the sleep-wake cycle, as the SCN itself has only minimal monosynaptic outputs to sleep regulatory centers the actual molecular mechanisms by which the SCN drives circadian control and the specifics of its interaction with the homeostatic control of arousal in regulating sleep is poorly understood(Edgar and Wurts. 2000).
One theory is that the SCN controls circadian rhythms of behavior on a molecular level by secreting locomotory inhibitory factors at one phase and locomotory activating factors at another, which act locally within the hypothalamus(Kramer et al. 2001). As the major projections of the SCN terminate in the subparaventricular zone(SPZ), a “hypothalamic region flanking the third ventricle”(Kramer et al. 2001, p2512), and as lesions of the SPZ have shown to disrupt circadian regulation, the SPZ would be a likely candidate for the receptors of these SCN locomotory factors.
Pretty ridiculous to let someone marry someone and then procreate with the risk of major birth defects but two gay people who wouldn't be harming anyone cant be married.
...but two gay people who wouldn't be harming anyone cant be married.
What is this... I don't even...
What if they were cousins? Might have an angle there
Well they wouldn't be producing any harm to their offspring at least which is my main concern, and supposedly the concern of most people.
Morals are overrated for the most part anyways. What do I care if someone wants to hump their cousin? The potential harm to the child is what bothers me about it.
Two gay cousins it just comes down to morals and I don't like to use them a whole lot in situations that don't involve me since morals are different for everyone.
Once your hair turns gold and you can blast away planets, this is minor detail. Besides, I don't watch DBZ to see Goku doing candle-lit diners with Chichi or take Gohan to the park.
On a side note, he did spend 1 year in the hyperbolic chamber with only his son. Sure he was firing beams at him that would kill anybody else but there's some special fatherly love right there.
Also, these guys are professionals. They obviously know what they're doing. There's a reason this stuff hasn't been thrown to the curb yet. They convinced the scientific community that there is merit in the experiment. At least enough to do further tests.
You can be as skeptical as you want but it won't mean anything until the data is tested. Either way, time and space do not exist.
"A human being is a part of the whole called by us "the universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest - a kind of optical illusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening the circle of understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." - Albert Einstein
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
My favorite thing though has to be the fact he didn't see Goten until he was six. Sure he was dead but he came back temporarily to fight in a tournament but couldn't be bothered to see his son. LOL
My head hurts
Edit: I hate it when the grown ups talk.
Pro tip: Just scroll past all that really fast and get back to the fun stuff.
I don't KNOW anything. But...I believe it.
Obviously I'm aware that the chance of time and space not mattering during my physical existence is pretty slim but I'm not going to rule it out. I still have to keep track of time and space like everyone else. But, I think our logical process is capable of understanding that it's an "illusion" in one way or another. Especially time. Space on the other hand can only be theoretically unraveled for me. Since it's so physically here it's hard to disprove something like that.
But time is a little more conceptual. We don't actually have any sense at all that detects time. We have senses that detect change. Which is a huge difference. Our brains collect that change and logically explain it as passing time. And I think if you can distinguish that change and time are different, you can begin to rule out the concept of time all together. Which there in rules out space.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
We do not have a sense to perceive time. What you are talking about measuring is nothing more than an idea. You're measuring something that we created. We cannot perceive time without the idea of it. Where as, we simply see and feel space. We don't have to measure anything to perceive space. Our senses do that for us.
By concept, yes time and space is the same thing. But the key difference is that we can perceive space without thinking about it.
Are animals bound by time? Of course they live and die, but that isn't the same thing. Since (i assume) they are completely unaware of the concept of time, do they live their lives based on the future and past? I don't think they do. They are not perceiving time. They are only perceiving now. And now is all there is. One singular moment. And "moment" is the only way language can really describe this since it isn't even that.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
You try telling my fucking Pineal Gland that. <_<
The circadian clock located in the suprachiasmatic nucleus(SCN) of the anterior hypothalamus is thought to drive daily rhythms of behaviour such as locomotory activity and the sleep wake cycle through “temporal organization of neurobehavioural, physiological and biochemical variables”(Moore-ede et al. 1982 in Saper et al. 2006 p487). Although transplant studies have shown that the circadian clock in the SCN is vital for establishment of the sleep-wake cycle, as the SCN itself has only minimal monosynaptic outputs to sleep regulatory centers the actual molecular mechanisms by which the SCN drives circadian control and the specifics of its interaction with the homeostatic control of arousal in regulating sleep is poorly understood(Edgar and Wurts. 2000).
One theory is that the SCN controls circadian rhythms of behavior on a molecular level by secreting locomotory inhibitory factors at one phase and locomotory activating factors at another, which act locally within the hypothalamus(Kramer et al. 2001). As the major projections of the SCN terminate in the subparaventricular zone(SPZ), a “hypothalamic region flanking the third ventricle”(Kramer et al. 2001, p2512), and as lesions of the SPZ have shown to disrupt circadian regulation, the SPZ would be a likely candidate for the receptors of these SCN locomotory factors.
+1
What is this... I don't even...
What if they were cousins? Might have an angle there
Well they wouldn't be producing any harm to their offspring at least which is my main concern, and supposedly the concern of most people.
Morals are overrated for the most part anyways. What do I care if someone wants to hump their cousin? The potential harm to the child is what bothers me about it.
Two gay cousins it just comes down to morals and I don't like to use them a whole lot in situations that don't involve me since morals are different for everyone.
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence