Hello, I am a mature female gamer who has been playing video games since before kindergarten and PC games since not too long after that. I am currently playing my third Diablo installment on Inferno difficulty as a crit-specced DH.
I like to livestream for the social element. NOT HANDOUTS OR FLIRTING. This is not spam, I just didn't know how to find other like-minded players, so here I am. I promise to be more active in the forums than just this post, but I am pressed for time between work and my dog and my gaming habit.
not to be a douche or anything but what does you being female have to do with anything
Being female has to do with everything. Everyone just pretends it doesn't because they're afraid of being called sexist
This is a discussion I have had numerous times with other gamers. The cold, hard truth is that there is an overwhelming majority of men in hardcore gaming. Now, that is not to say that women don't game--clearly we do--duh. And a lot of us don't go online and stream b/c of the infantile comments we get like "go back to the kitchen" and "show your boobs" kind of stuff. Or when you see one do it it's such a clear money grab with paypal donation links and begging for gear, etc, that it's a bad representation of women in gaming.
And sometimes it's just better not to identify one's gender in gaming b/c you do get flamed for it or get "bad attention" as I call it. That is you get stuck playing with gamers who can't treat you like a person anymore. So yeah, it's a risky thing to admit.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, but I personally like to identify as female. I want other gamers to know that there are hardcore women gamers and we are not shy to be ourselves --and we are not asking for money/gold/gear/sugardaddies, etc... I like social play and interacting with others while I game. It's more fun for me, that's my personality.
It *is* special to be a woman gamer as we are a small minority of gamers, so I proudly and emphatically list it as part of my identity. Love it or hate it, it is what it is.
edit: Thank you for your honesty, Mormolyce. I think asking why gender-identification in gaming matters to someone is blatantly insincere.
i guess all male gamers should now title their streams as "Male Gamer Streaming" since gender identity is sooooo important then. The fact that you are a woman makes no difference to anyone but morons who like you said leave stupid ass comments like "get back to the kitchen and show your boobs". Like i said i wasnt trying to be an asshole because i could have clearly been a bigger dick then what i was precieved to be. I was just curious as to why it was important that your thread title had to annouce that you're a girl.
And i just want to point out i dont look at people as male and female when it comes to youtube videos and live streams all i see is a person who enjoys playing video games just like myself.
I thought girls being attention whores in gaming communities was totally last decade.
edit.. i should clarify before catching flak.
Girl gamers are great, my gf plays tons of games, my hard-mode DS progression raid group in wow was 4/10 girls, i've even been on competitive CS:S teams with girls... and I don't think any of them combined made as much of a fuss about gender as the OP here did.
"I like to livestream for the social element. NOT HANDOUTS OR FLIRTING."
logic
Well, I guess I won't mention my gender if it offends people so much or brands me as an "attention whore" as Meown puts it, rather unkindly.
What kind of response would I have received if I just wrote "mature gamer" with no gender instead? I can't help wondering, if a male gamer posted with "mature male gamer", would he receive such criticism and scorn for posting his gender? It seems to be one-sided and rather presumptuous to assume that a woman gamer identifying her gender is doing it for purely sexual purposes. In fact, a lot of these comments just serve to reinforce my views about gender identity being problematic in the gaming community. Though, not always
Edit: And of course I want attention: That is why I posted to forums and have a stream going. But the kind of attention I want is very different from what some of you have indicated I want. I've already explained that in an earlier post, so not going to regurgitate the gemeinschaft and gesellschaft of gaming via streaming again.
You could have put "Demon Hunter in Inferno Act x Streaming Now", but you know that wouldn't get the attention you wanted.
So yes, you are the one attempting to exploit sexuallity for stream views.. aka attention whoring. As I said, I play with many highly skilled girl gamers and they don't ever need to bring gender or sexuality into the discussion because they're not trying to get guys to pay attention to them.
And to give you an objective opinion, I showed my girlfriend your first post and simply asked what she thought of it. She said that it was weird that you would mention being a girl. I then asked "would you be more or less inclined to watch the stream knowing she's a girl?" and her response was "it's clear she's just begging for attention, why would I want to watch that".
You could have put "Demon Hunter in Inferno Act x Streaming Now", but you know that wouldn't get the attention you wanted.
So yes, you are the one attempting to exploit sexuallity for stream views.. aka attention whoring. As I said, I play with many highly skilled girl gamers and they don't ever need to bring gender or sexuality into the discussion because they're not trying to get guys to pay attention to them.
And to give you an objective opinion, I showed my girlfriend your first post and simply asked what she thought of it. She said that it was weird that you would mention being a girl. I then asked "would you be more or less inclined to watch the stream knowing she's a girl?" and her response was "it's clear she's just begging for attention, why would I want to watch that".
So 1 woman(your g/f) constitutes she must be looking just for attention. She obviously is playing with her boyfriend or husband cause you hear him talking all the time too. So I doubt she's scouring the internet for men to watch her live stream.
EDIT: Although she did just say on her stream "room mate" so take that at face value
I'm just....so angry she won't go out with me! How can she admit she's a woman and then not go out with me!!? And I don't want to have to go there. She should fly to wherever I am and take a taxi to my house!
You're all weird. I love gaming, but it's sad that the worst and best part are simultaneously the community. She is hardly attention whoring, and your reactions are tragic.
I don't usually watch streams, but I'll maybe check it out sometime. I wish Diablo 3 had a better infrastructure for group play / community, the general chats are terrible, maybe I should try something like twitch for more player interaction.
While you are at it can you please give us an age, an ethnicity, a weight (preferably in Lbs), a height, a bra size, a location, a sexual orientation, and a credit card number.
Your thread title should read like this,
"I am a bisexual, 150 pound, caucasian, 34 yr old, 5'8, B cup, girl gamer with a DH who livestreams for the social element, 1234-4567-1234-5678."
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I like to livestream for the social element. NOT HANDOUTS OR FLIRTING. This is not spam, I just didn't know how to find other like-minded players, so here I am. I promise to be more active in the forums than just this post, but I am pressed for time between work and my dog and my gaming habit.
So you can catch my Twitch.TV livestream here:
http://www.twitch.tv/leksiw#
Please keep it friendly. Thanks and out,
LeksiW.
Being female has to do with everything. Everyone just pretends it doesn't because they're afraid of being called sexist
Haha, there is such a thing as a dumb question.
This is a discussion I have had numerous times with other gamers. The cold, hard truth is that there is an overwhelming majority of men in hardcore gaming. Now, that is not to say that women don't game--clearly we do--duh. And a lot of us don't go online and stream b/c of the infantile comments we get like "go back to the kitchen" and "show your boobs" kind of stuff. Or when you see one do it it's such a clear money grab with paypal donation links and begging for gear, etc, that it's a bad representation of women in gaming.
And sometimes it's just better not to identify one's gender in gaming b/c you do get flamed for it or get "bad attention" as I call it. That is you get stuck playing with gamers who can't treat you like a person anymore. So yeah, it's a risky thing to admit.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, but I personally like to identify as female. I want other gamers to know that there are hardcore women gamers and we are not shy to be ourselves --and we are not asking for money/gold/gear/sugardaddies, etc... I like social play and interacting with others while I game. It's more fun for me, that's my personality.
It *is* special to be a woman gamer as we are a small minority of gamers, so I proudly and emphatically list it as part of my identity. Love it or hate it, it is what it is.
edit: Thank you for your honesty, Mormolyce. I think asking why gender-identification in gaming matters to someone is blatantly insincere.
And i just want to point out i dont look at people as male and female when it comes to youtube videos and live streams all i see is a person who enjoys playing video games just like myself.
http://i.imgur.com/O7Oeo.png
I received TWO beta keys. Eat it and like it.
edit.. i should clarify before catching flak.
Girl gamers are great, my gf plays tons of games, my hard-mode DS progression raid group in wow was 4/10 girls, i've even been on competitive CS:S teams with girls... and I don't think any of them combined made as much of a fuss about gender as the OP here did.
I'm going to turn this statement inside out and then I will maybe start watching
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
Well, I guess I won't mention my gender if it offends people so much or brands me as an "attention whore" as Meown puts it, rather unkindly.
What kind of response would I have received if I just wrote "mature gamer" with no gender instead? I can't help wondering, if a male gamer posted with "mature male gamer", would he receive such criticism and scorn for posting his gender? It seems to be one-sided and rather presumptuous to assume that a woman gamer identifying her gender is doing it for purely sexual purposes. In fact, a lot of these comments just serve to reinforce my views about gender identity being problematic in the gaming community. Though, not always
Edit: And of course I want attention: That is why I posted to forums and have a stream going. But the kind of attention I want is very different from what some of you have indicated I want. I've already explained that in an earlier post, so not going to regurgitate the gemeinschaft and gesellschaft of gaming via streaming again.
So yes, you are the one attempting to exploit sexuallity for stream views.. aka attention whoring. As I said, I play with many highly skilled girl gamers and they don't ever need to bring gender or sexuality into the discussion because they're not trying to get guys to pay attention to them.
And to give you an objective opinion, I showed my girlfriend your first post and simply asked what she thought of it. She said that it was weird that you would mention being a girl. I then asked "would you be more or less inclined to watch the stream knowing she's a girl?" and her response was "it's clear she's just begging for attention, why would I want to watch that".
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So 1 woman(your g/f) constitutes she must be looking just for attention. She obviously is playing with her boyfriend or husband cause you hear him talking all the time too. So I doubt she's scouring the internet for men to watch her live stream.
EDIT: Although she did just say on her stream "room mate" so take that at face value
No, common sense constitutes she must be looking just for attention. My gf was just able to point it out.
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In case you've been in a coma for the past 4 decades, here's whats been going on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
I don't usually watch streams, but I'll maybe check it out sometime. I wish Diablo 3 had a better infrastructure for group play / community, the general chats are terrible, maybe I should try something like twitch for more player interaction.
Your thread title should read like this,
"I am a bisexual, 150 pound, caucasian, 34 yr old, 5'8, B cup, girl gamer with a DH who livestreams for the social element, 1234-4567-1234-5678."