Crucifixes in Sanctuary so far have no meaning. There has never been mention or even a hint of someone 'dying on the cross' or sacrificing themselves for mankind or anything similar to Jesus. Its all just there for aesthetics and allusions.
Soulstones are indeed fragments of the Worldstone.
Tyrael (Act IV): Now, Baal's army is searching for the Worldstone, the ancient source of all the Soulstones and their power.
I used to think that I read that Diablo is the strongest of the Three, while Mephisto is the eldest. But now I cant find the quote to support myself, so I'll just assume that I read wrong. Or maybe I was just thinking of that quote from Astrogha. I dunno, its debatable. He may be slightly stronger than the others, but likely not by much.
I used to think that I read that Diablo is the strongest of the Three, while Mephisto is the eldest. But now I cant find the quote to support myself, so I'll just assume that I read wrong. Or maybe I was just thinking of that quote from Astrogha. I dunno, its debatable. He may be slightly stronger than the others, but likely not by much.
Thats kind of how I think the angiris council is also. They all have slightly different levels of power, but are pretty much equal.
Crucifixes in Sanctuary so far have no meaning. There has never been mention or even a hint of someone 'dying on the cross' or sacrificing themselves for mankind or anything similar to Jesus. Its all just there for aesthetics and allusions.
Soulstones are indeed fragments of the Worldstone.
Tyrael (Act IV): Now, Baal's army is searching for the Worldstone, the ancient source of all the Soulstones and their power.
I used to think that I read that Diablo is the strongest of the Three, while Mephisto is the eldest. But now I cant find the quote to support myself, so I'll just assume that I read wrong. Or maybe I was just thinking of that quote from Astrogha. I dunno, its debatable. He may be slightly stronger than the others, but likely not by much.
Thanks for that quote on the soulstone/worldstone connection...I suspected so but was waiting for some solid evidence.
And for some reason I always thought Mephisto to be the greatest...I guess my mind just assumed because he was the eldest and it seemed like he was always the mastermind behind the Three's plans...But this quote from the book makes me think differently. I would definitely tend to say that Diablo is the greatest.
"Greatness" can be defined in different ways...but I say he is the greatest out of sheer power and strength, kind of like the "brute" of the bunch. I see Mephisto as more of the older wiser brother who keeps the other two in check.
Essentially I don't believe there to be much difference in power between them. They are a trinity and their respective places play on each others.
I'm not sure if you want all the spoilers so I left some details out
Kabraxis is a demon powerful enough to be feared by the Prime Evils themselves.
He is also known as Iceclaw, the thief of hope, the banisher of light or Dien-Ap-Sten
Imo he is one of the most manipulative and wicked demons we've seen so far.
He was imprisoned long ago under a city somewhere in Westmarch, but was freed by an ex-Zakarum priest
He performs miracles on unfortunate people (like healing the blinds and so on) to manipulate them into joining his religion at the cost of their soul. His aim is to entirely replace the Church of Zakarum and rule over all of Sanctuary.
The last church he built is still there in Bramwell, without doubt one of the biggest church in Sanctuary and it has probably been abandoned a long time ago.
Tal Rasha was the leader of the Horadrim, and was the most powerful of them.
Here's the story of Tal Rasha and Baal:
Mephisto and Diablo, once found, were easily lured into the Soulstones. The capture of their brother Baal, however, became complicated when the Soulstone that was to be his eternal prison was shattered and fragmented. We found that while the shards still held the power to lure the demon to them, they could not properly contain it. Tal Rasha, a fellow Initiate who has been since immortalized in Horadrim lore, theorized that a mortal of strong will might be able to contain Baal within his own mortal soul. This sacrifice meant that the essence of any mortal so chosen would be forever tortured while locked in eternal conflict with the enthralled demon. To this end, Tal Rasha volunteered to contain the raging Lord of Destruction.
Piercing his breast with a shard of the Soulstone, Tal Rasha took within himself the essence of Baal, the Lord of Destruction. The Initiate's body was shackled, chained and buried deep within a tomb under the desert. The sacrifice of Tal Rasha has kept Baal imprisoned for many years now, and although the demon was imprisoned without the use of a whole Soulstone, we believe that our victory may be a hollow one. Should Tal Rasha ever escape, he would have the formidable powers of Baal added to his own. By ridding the world of this present Evil, we may have created a nightmare worse than that which we first sought to contain...
And yeah, I dunno why Marius said 'Tal Rasha' instead of 'Baal'. At that time, Baal was indeed fully possessing Tal Rasha.
Every time he builds up enough strength to try and battle them, he is defeated. Its part of the balance, that whenever Kabraxis returns to this world, a hero is destined to defeat him. However, things make a bit of a twist at the end of The Black Road. If you really really want to know, I can tell you, but its funner if you discover it yourself.
At the end of the Veiled Prophet, the Angiris Council and Mephisto erase the memory of the Sin War from everybody except the firstborn, and Trag'Oul manages to save Mendeln/Kalan's memory. How is it that everyone knows about the Sin War in the Diablo II times? also i remember reading in one of the books that people like Bartuc came to power during the Sin War, but he was not mentioned in the Sin War books. Was there another Sin War? or is the Sin War still going after Inarius' downfall? and how did we find out about the Eternal Conflict again?
I guess we can attribute all of our knowledge of The Sin War to Mendeln/Kalan, as he's the only one who remembers.
Note that the prologues of each book in the trilogy are credited to being "From the Books of Kalan". He must have written many books, recording those events.
The Sin War itself is what Demons and Angels call the war over Sanctuary, so technically it is still happening and continues to happen until Heaven and Hell are either defeated or leave Sanctuary alone altogether. It is confusing, I made a thread about it a while ago and thats the answer I got.
I think the books are called The Sin War trilogy because its kind of marking the beginning of the war. At the end of the books, both Heaven and Hell are aware of Sanctuary and both decide to leave it alone for now and see how it grows. This must be the point the war starts because a 'war' needs at least two parties to participate, and before this point Heaven was not participating.
I'm pretty sure that's how things are, Malic used a shard of the Worldstone to transfer his spirit from one person to another, so it works pretty much like the Soulstones.
I was under the impression that the worldstone shard wasn't necessarily needed for Malic to switch bodies, but instead only amplified his powers, letting him possess a body faster.
Ah, ok, i get it now Atrumentis. Thanks for the quick response!
Even seated, the demon was taller than Cholik standing up. The old priest guessed that
Kabraxis was twice as tall as a man, perhaps even as much as fifteen feet tall. The
demon’s massively broad body was black flesh, marbled with blue fire that burned and
ran through him. His face was horrid, crafted of hard planes and rudimentary features:
two inverted triangle eyes, no nose but black pits that were nostrils, and a lipless gash of
a mouth filled with yellowed fangs. Writhing, poisonous vipers sprouted from his head,
all of them beautiful, cool crystal colors of a rainbow.
After reading through The Black Road a little bit just then, it made me realise that its actually a very cool book. The whole Kabaxis thing is just awesome, and apparently easily overlooked (not many people like The Black Road).
i just finished reading Demonsbane. In the end tyreal was having a little chat with Siggard and told him that he was neither alive nor dead that when he died by pure human force and vitality he escaped death.
My first question is this. Tyreal said that two people have done this, anyone every heard of the first to escape death?
Question 2 Was that a strand of Nephalem birthright that allowed him to do this?
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I don't know if anyone else knows, but I am unaware of the second person. And how he was able to do it? Tyrael just said that it was his sheer will to live that keeps him in limbo between life and death. Uldyssian's powers are based on his 'will', so yeah, it would have something to do with the Nephalic powers within him. Pretty much everything any human does comes from their nephalic powers.
I have a question about the books, the new one Diablo Archive, it is shorter then the four books on their own, as I brought the book....does it mean that its cut? and if so that means that I am missing out on the story?!
A little while ago I asked Knaak about the size of the book, and he didn't say anything has been cut. So no, you're not missing out on any of the story. The difference is just with the formatting and stuff, no actual content change.
Yeah that's right but the author often describes the point of view or the past of the characters.
Mmm...kind of..but i think thats probably a pretty week argument.
If thats true than alot of the things we take as fact could be construed this same way.
Soulstones are indeed fragments of the Worldstone.
Tyrael (Act IV): Now, Baal's army is searching for the Worldstone, the ancient source of all the Soulstones and their power.
I used to think that I read that Diablo is the strongest of the Three, while Mephisto is the eldest. But now I cant find the quote to support myself, so I'll just assume that I read wrong. Or maybe I was just thinking of that quote from Astrogha. I dunno, its debatable. He may be slightly stronger than the others, but likely not by much.
Thats kind of how I think the angiris council is also. They all have slightly different levels of power, but are pretty much equal.
Thanks for that quote on the soulstone/worldstone connection...I suspected so but was waiting for some solid evidence.
And for some reason I always thought Mephisto to be the greatest...I guess my mind just assumed because he was the eldest and it seemed like he was always the mastermind behind the Three's plans...But this quote from the book makes me think differently. I would definitely tend to say that Diablo is the greatest.
"Greatness" can be defined in different ways...but I say he is the greatest out of sheer power and strength, kind of like the "brute" of the bunch. I see Mephisto as more of the older wiser brother who keeps the other two in check.
Essentially I don't believe there to be much difference in power between them. They are a trinity and their respective places play on each others.
Kabraxis is a demon powerful enough to be feared by the Prime Evils themselves.
He is also known as Iceclaw, the thief of hope, the banisher of light or Dien-Ap-Sten
Imo he is one of the most manipulative and wicked demons we've seen so far.
He was imprisoned long ago under a city somewhere in Westmarch, but was freed by an ex-Zakarum priest
He performs miracles on unfortunate people (like healing the blinds and so on) to manipulate them into joining his religion at the cost of their soul. His aim is to entirely replace the Church of Zakarum and rule over all of Sanctuary.
The last church he built is still there in Bramwell, without doubt one of the biggest church in Sanctuary and it has probably been abandoned a long time ago.
I hope we get to go there in D3.:)
Here's the story of Tal Rasha and Baal:
And yeah, I dunno why Marius said 'Tal Rasha' instead of 'Baal'. At that time, Baal was indeed fully possessing Tal Rasha.
Every time he builds up enough strength to try and battle them, he is defeated. Its part of the balance, that whenever Kabraxis returns to this world, a hero is destined to defeat him. However, things make a bit of a twist at the end of The Black Road. If you really really want to know, I can tell you, but its funner if you discover it yourself.
At the end of the Veiled Prophet, the Angiris Council and Mephisto erase the memory of the Sin War from everybody except the firstborn, and Trag'Oul manages to save Mendeln/Kalan's memory. How is it that everyone knows about the Sin War in the Diablo II times? also i remember reading in one of the books that people like Bartuc came to power during the Sin War, but he was not mentioned in the Sin War books. Was there another Sin War? or is the Sin War still going after Inarius' downfall? and how did we find out about the Eternal Conflict again?
Note that the prologues of each book in the trilogy are credited to being "From the Books of Kalan". He must have written many books, recording those events.
The Sin War itself is what Demons and Angels call the war over Sanctuary, so technically it is still happening and continues to happen until Heaven and Hell are either defeated or leave Sanctuary alone altogether. It is confusing, I made a thread about it a while ago and thats the answer I got.
I think the books are called The Sin War trilogy because its kind of marking the beginning of the war. At the end of the books, both Heaven and Hell are aware of Sanctuary and both decide to leave it alone for now and see how it grows. This must be the point the war starts because a 'war' needs at least two parties to participate, and before this point Heaven was not participating.
I was under the impression that the worldstone shard wasn't necessarily needed for Malic to switch bodies, but instead only amplified his powers, letting him possess a body faster.
Ah, ok, i get it now Atrumentis. Thanks for the quick response!
After reading through The Black Road a little bit just then, it made me realise that its actually a very cool book. The whole Kabaxis thing is just awesome, and apparently easily overlooked (not many people like The Black Road).
My first question is this. Tyreal said that two people have done this, anyone every heard of the first to escape death?
Question 2 Was that a strand of Nephalem birthright that allowed him to do this?
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"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged