I hope you guys don't see it as a whine thread and try to get to the point I'm trying to make.
I fully understand the contests and the overall shenanigans revolving around a huge game thats about to come out (pfft, even I couldn't say it with a straight face), but don't you think in some ways its really hurting more then its doing good?
Its obvious that players like us, people in the forum, who keep up with every small detail (for one, I'm going through news for over 2 years on this game. every small detail, since its the only game I actualy care about, + I have Mac, which I refuse to bootcamp, for audio recording purposes, so no games anyway :P), we WILL buy the game either way. Regardless of how annoyed or angry we are, we will stand in line to get the game at midnight release day.
But all these contests, make me frustrated. I'm the father of unlucky people when it comes to contests, drops, rolls, etc. I'm 100% sure im not the only one here who's been in more then 10 contests and lost them all. Even the new contest of the guy who won TWO keys last night, I wasnt here today so I think I missed the 100 people cap, also
So instead of giving me a taste, a glimpse, I just get more frustrated and blame everything (My internet connection for example, for those of you who saw the IGN \ Gamespy \ 1UP giveaway last night, which was ridiculess btw).
So I FULLY understand the reasoning behind advertising and "getting the hype up", but I for one think its doing the reverse effect on those of us who actualy been following like lifeless stalkers ;s
Not to even mention the 100k invites to NA players ONLY. Which made me RAGGGEEE like hell.
So is it worth it?
And if it does, maybe a new way of making contests is required. Less keys going out like that, maybe more OPT-IN invites are the way to go instead of relaying on a Facebook giveaway or a 0.8% chance to get a key via forums.
I see it this way. IF I do not get into the beta invite, then I think to myself. IT does NOT affect my job in any way, or my real life. I do not lose anything in real life, sure I get disappointed, but I have been disappointed by a lot in real life. So something on a game will not affect me. This is also to the peeps that believe they are entitled to a beta key. K, no one is entitled to anything in life. They have it in their head that they should get it, but odds are there are people out there who are just as qualified as you are.
I see it this way. IF I do not get into the beta invite, then I think to myself. IT does NOT affect my job in any way, or my real life. I do not lose anything in real life, sure I get disappointed, but I have been disappointed by a lot in real life. So something on a game will not affect me. This is also to the peeps that believe they are entitled to a beta key. K, no one is entitled to anything in life. They have it in their head that they should get it, but odds are there are people out there who are just as qualified as you are.
Ofc. I'm saying the "situation" is frustrating, not that I'm actualy frustrated in real life. I'm a Sound Engineer and have plenty of things to do regardless of the game. But I don't see how having it will affect my real life as much as you say it will :P. I will play a lot, and try to make a contribution by finding what I can to help the game get out faster, but I still do what I need to do. If its not Diablo 3 time, its more of something else, not necceseraly a "productive" thing
I also am frustrated, I have follow all about d3 is more than two years, calling friends to see the new game play, all new class.
I did also opt-in beta for years ago. Knowing that blizz priority for those who have the lowest ping or live in the U.S.. And that my opt-in beta is just for show.
nothing against fan keys site, at least we have a chance even if it is 0.8%, that the opt-in beta for what I have seen it is 0.000000001%
I also am frustrated, I have follow all about d3 is more than two years, calling friends to see the new game play, all new class.
I did also opt-in beta for years ago. Knowing that blizz priority for those who have the lowest ping or live in the U.S.. And that my opt-in beta is just for show.
nothing against fan keys site, at least we have a chance even if it is 0.8%, that the opt-in beta for what I have seen it is 0.000000001%
If more invites went through opt-in then your chances would be signifficantly higher. People who participate in contests sometimes dont even realise they need a Blizzard game to activate it, or even worse, people who have accounts just to SELL the beta. Just look at eBay for example.
The frustration can easily be understood as many readers on this forum have had no access to beta. I've seen people who have stayed up days straight for a chance at a beta key. I think some of these contests have been ridiculous. I only won my key randomly by posting on this site. After about 2 days I gave up with the trying to be the first person to comment on facebook and sitting on D3DB.
I find it sort of distasteful the way games are using the later stages of beta now. 1 million people are not required for a beta. It seems that the only real feedback that is crucial to their testing is from the press stage of the beta. The later stages are then used as a teaser/demo. I don't care about demos at events but I honestly have not provided any feedback as I know it won't have any effect on the development of the game at this stage. Based on what I've seen from Rift, Swtor, and now Diablo 3 future betas to games look to be more easily accessible and used as a hype tool. I would rather beta be shorter (kept to the press phase) and most of the games bugs and other issues to be tested internally.
The frustration can easily be understood as many readers on this forum have had no access to beta. I've seen people who have stayed up days straight for a chance at a beta key. I think some of these contests have been ridiculous. I only won my key randomly by posting on this site. After about 2 days I gave up with the trying to be the first person to comment on facebook and sitting on D3DB.
I find it sort of distasteful the way games are using the later stages of beta now. 1 million people are not required for a beta. It seems that the only real feedback that is crucial to their testing is from the press stage of the beta. The later stages are then used as a teaser/demo. I don't care about demos at events but I honestly have not provided any feedback as I know it won't have any effect on the development of the game at this stage. Based on what I've seen from Rift, Swtor, and now Diablo 3 future betas to games look to be more easily accessible and used as a hype tool. I would rather beta be shorter (kept to the press phase) and most of the games bugs and other issues to be tested internally.
I gave up the very first time I ever tried to post on FB or Twitter.
The frustration can easily be understood as many readers on this forum have had no access to beta. I've seen people who have stayed up days straight for a chance at a beta key. I think some of these contests have been ridiculous. I only won my key randomly by posting on this site. After about 2 days I gave up with the trying to be the first person to comment on facebook and sitting on D3DB.
I find it sort of distasteful the way games are using the later stages of beta now. 1 million people are not required for a beta. It seems that the only real feedback that is crucial to their testing is from the press stage of the beta. The later stages are then used as a teaser/demo. I don't care about demos at events but I honestly have not provided any feedback as I know it won't have any effect on the development of the game at this stage. Based on what I've seen from Rift, Swtor, and now Diablo 3 future betas to games look to be more easily accessible and used as a hype tool. I would rather beta be shorter (kept to the press phase) and most of the games bugs and other issues to be tested internally.
I gave up the very first time I ever tried to post on FB or Twitter.
I didn't because I want a beta key. And I will keep trying. And the saddest thing is, I even gave up trying to help, exactly for the reasons you posted. Now, I just want like 10-20 hours on the beta to chose the class I want to start with, so when retail is out I won't have to haggle around with chosing a class. Since I'm really torn, I just want to know what to start with. I want to have a "feel" of the classes before I go retail.
Sadly I don't even know anyone with beta, so, thats out of the question aswel.
dont worry about finding bugs and errors, but if you do, feel free to post the problems to blizzard or not. ofc you know they already have paid d3 testers for that kinda reason and they more than likely already found the bugs or errors that all the ppl that got beta have found, b4 any of you did, i agree with some ppl its just for hype at this stage just so you get a feel for it, or mainly to see how the servers handle that many more ppl playing beta.
just plz dont kill yourself just cause you didnt make it into the beta, :Thumbs Up:
dont worry about finding bugs and errors, but if you do, feel free to post the problems to blizzard or not. ofc you know they already have paid d3 testers for that kinda reason and they more than likely already found the bugs or errors that all the ppl that got beta have found, b4 any of you did, i agree with some ppl its just for hype at this stage just so you get a feel for it, or mainly to see how the servers handle that many more ppl playing beta.
just plz dont kill yourself just cause you didnt make it into the beta, :Thumbs Up:
Nah. I won't.
I just don't understand why not make the BEST sales promotion and just give beta to whomever buys the retailed game. Just enter your original key and it will turn into retail on release. So many games are using this system. Why not? just to say that you made 10 million+ on the first week?.. why does it matter?
dont worry about finding bugs and errors, but if you do, feel free to post the problems to blizzard or not. ofc you know they already have paid d3 testers for that kinda reason and they more than likely already found the bugs or errors that all the ppl that got beta have found, b4 any of you did, i agree with some ppl its just for hype at this stage just so you get a feel for it, or mainly to see how the servers handle that many more ppl playing beta.
just plz dont kill yourself just cause you didnt make it into the beta, :Thumbs Up:
Nah. I won't.
I just don't understand why not make the BEST sales promotion and just give beta to whomever buys the retailed game. Just enter your original key and it will turn into retail on release. So many games are using this system. Why not? just to say that you made 10 million+ on the first week?.. why does it matter?
I totally understand where you're coming from, and I think if this game had a Starcraft component that could give it a lot of playability till release they would have. Thing is that an RPG isn't an RTS. You need to build your character to learn it, it is part of the process that the game is built around and this makes Arenas sort of disfunctional. Since Starcraft could live by the whole play multiplayer till we launch, it had a setup that worked for get a pre-order and get in beta. If Diablo did that, well everyone would have hit 13 and just got stuck waiting. If they let you level to 60 then your character gets reset and players get frustrated again.
The game is a different beast then Starcraft and can't use the same formula. Letting people who really are passionate and begging lets them get a group of the hardcore invested without letting it get out of hand. It isn't good business practice to give everyone a preview that ends in a few hours, that just annoys a lot of people and could possible drop sells.
WHat they did was let it be a competition and for those who got in, there has been a lot of well constructed responses to the game. Somehow people who get in just have been good about sharing their experiences and trying to help promote the game. I don't really remember that sort of experience during the Starcraft beta. I mean fansites were supporting it, but I didn't see the love from the player base as much.
I am a little bit disapointed in did not win a beta key. I tell myself I will be the odds are heavily against that happening. What i am very frustrated about is this "when it done", "soon", "early", "near future", and "coming weeks" bullshit. I have often read that they don't want to give out targets because what if they miss it or delay and it just upsets everyone. Well it seems there approach has pissed everyone off as much as any other so give is a date you egotistical pricks who have become disatched from your fans!
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I fully understand the contests and the overall shenanigans revolving around a huge game thats about to come out (pfft, even I couldn't say it with a straight face), but don't you think in some ways its really hurting more then its doing good?
Its obvious that players like us, people in the forum, who keep up with every small detail (for one, I'm going through news for over 2 years on this game. every small detail, since its the only game I actualy care about, + I have Mac, which I refuse to bootcamp, for audio recording purposes, so no games anyway :P), we WILL buy the game either way. Regardless of how annoyed or angry we are, we will stand in line to get the game at midnight release day.
But all these contests, make me frustrated. I'm the father of unlucky people when it comes to contests, drops, rolls, etc. I'm 100% sure im not the only one here who's been in more then 10 contests and lost them all. Even the new contest of the guy who won TWO keys last night, I wasnt here today so I think I missed the 100 people cap, also
So instead of giving me a taste, a glimpse, I just get more frustrated and blame everything (My internet connection for example, for those of you who saw the IGN \ Gamespy \ 1UP giveaway last night, which was ridiculess btw).
So I FULLY understand the reasoning behind advertising and "getting the hype up", but I for one think its doing the reverse effect on those of us who actualy been following like lifeless stalkers ;s
Not to even mention the 100k invites to NA players ONLY. Which made me RAGGGEEE like hell.
So is it worth it?
And if it does, maybe a new way of making contests is required. Less keys going out like that, maybe more OPT-IN invites are the way to go instead of relaying on a Facebook giveaway or a 0.8% chance to get a key via forums.
Thoughts?
Ofc. I'm saying the "situation" is frustrating, not that I'm actualy frustrated in real life. I'm a Sound Engineer and have plenty of things to do regardless of the game. But I don't see how having it will affect my real life as much as you say it will :P. I will play a lot, and try to make a contribution by finding what I can to help the game get out faster, but I still do what I need to do. If its not Diablo 3 time, its more of something else, not necceseraly a "productive" thing
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YES. FFS. I rather have no news at all then this retarded announcements =\
Insert hockey where martial arts is and you've got it right
I did also opt-in beta for years ago. Knowing that blizz priority for those who have the lowest ping or live in the U.S.. And that my opt-in beta is just for show.
nothing against fan keys site, at least we have a chance even if it is 0.8%, that the opt-in beta for what I have seen it is 0.000000001%
If more invites went through opt-in then your chances would be signifficantly higher. People who participate in contests sometimes dont even realise they need a Blizzard game to activate it, or even worse, people who have accounts just to SELL the beta. Just look at eBay for example.
I find it sort of distasteful the way games are using the later stages of beta now. 1 million people are not required for a beta. It seems that the only real feedback that is crucial to their testing is from the press stage of the beta. The later stages are then used as a teaser/demo. I don't care about demos at events but I honestly have not provided any feedback as I know it won't have any effect on the development of the game at this stage. Based on what I've seen from Rift, Swtor, and now Diablo 3 future betas to games look to be more easily accessible and used as a hype tool. I would rather beta be shorter (kept to the press phase) and most of the games bugs and other issues to be tested internally.
I gave up the very first time I ever tried to post on FB or Twitter.
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I didn't because I want a beta key. And I will keep trying. And the saddest thing is, I even gave up trying to help, exactly for the reasons you posted. Now, I just want like 10-20 hours on the beta to chose the class I want to start with, so when retail is out I won't have to haggle around with chosing a class. Since I'm really torn, I just want to know what to start with. I want to have a "feel" of the classes before I go retail.
Sadly I don't even know anyone with beta, so, thats out of the question aswel.
just plz dont kill yourself just cause you didnt make it into the beta, :Thumbs Up:
Nah. I won't.
I just don't understand why not make the BEST sales promotion and just give beta to whomever buys the retailed game. Just enter your original key and it will turn into retail on release. So many games are using this system. Why not? just to say that you made 10 million+ on the first week?.. why does it matter?
I totally understand where you're coming from, and I think if this game had a Starcraft component that could give it a lot of playability till release they would have. Thing is that an RPG isn't an RTS. You need to build your character to learn it, it is part of the process that the game is built around and this makes Arenas sort of disfunctional. Since Starcraft could live by the whole play multiplayer till we launch, it had a setup that worked for get a pre-order and get in beta. If Diablo did that, well everyone would have hit 13 and just got stuck waiting. If they let you level to 60 then your character gets reset and players get frustrated again.
The game is a different beast then Starcraft and can't use the same formula. Letting people who really are passionate and begging lets them get a group of the hardcore invested without letting it get out of hand. It isn't good business practice to give everyone a preview that ends in a few hours, that just annoys a lot of people and could possible drop sells.
WHat they did was let it be a competition and for those who got in, there has been a lot of well constructed responses to the game. Somehow people who get in just have been good about sharing their experiences and trying to help promote the game. I don't really remember that sort of experience during the Starcraft beta. I mean fansites were supporting it, but I didn't see the love from the player base as much.