Saturday night i sold the most amazing item I've ever found and come into a windfall of gold larger than i ever thought possible.
I want to upgrade my barbarian from the ~130k DPS range unbuffed up more toward the 200k Dps range, Unbuffed.
Currently im running WW with Rend instead of a fury generator.
i generally farm scorps and Skeletons in KD2/AC2 on MP10.
i have a semi-cheap skorn in my bags, it only provides a 4k dps upgrade, and the nado tick rate drops drastically meaning it seems more of a dps Loss to use the skorn, at least the one i currently have.
Buy Echoing fury and put it in your off hand, you dont need big dps on it, just look for socket, life steal, str etc, whatever you need. It won't be expensive and you will get large chunk of dps, test it with AH and see which one gives you biggest dps. By holding ALT and cliking on linked weapon you can see how much dps it gives you when you put it in off hand.
Edit: About the skorn. If you get a good one you don't really need to spin to win anymore. It's rend to win
Edit x2: rend is all about hitting like a truck(crit chance/damge, avg damage, and str. Attack speed is not nearly as important any more)
What stats would you recommend looking for on a skorn? Str in the 300 range, CC in the 180 range, but for the Random do i want LS or something else?
As you can see from my gear, Attack speed has been something i've been aquiring. due to that, should i look into a HOTA build instead of a rend build? i've seen some guides of HOTA builds doing pretty solid damage. would HOTA work allright with 2 x 1h, as long as i brought my OH's damage up?
Thank you for the post Strafir, but i do have to disagree with a point:
Please understand that attack speed is only a support stat like life steal, it only makes you generate hp back faster which makes it easier to survive Molten, Plagued etc. The stat comes no where even close to the values of Strength, Crit, Crit dmg, Elemental damage or Average dmg
Attack speed is an Offense stat. not a support stat. it makes you generate back HP faster through life steal because it is bringing your DPS up. (for me currently each point of attack speed is worh about 1k dps, whereas a point of Crit chance is worth 1600k dps and Crit Damage is only worth 218 a point (5 points of CD worth around 1 AS, and 7 pts of CD for 1 CC. that said. obviously getting 50CD is a hell of a lot easier than getting 50 AS or 50 crit.). IAS also hits Breakpoints for tornadoes, and nadoes are the primary damagesource for WW barbs.
There is a very big difference in SHEET dps and actual dps output. Items like Stone of Jordan and abilities like Brawler might not raise your ingame calculators DPS number but trust me your actual dps will skyrocket because of them. Same things goes for gems, use a Ruby in your main hand and a Emerald in your offhand.
One sec while i Sim Ruby mainhand.
- Unbuffed this is a dps/tdps LOSS for my character. -9721 DPS, -21075 tDPS.
- Buffed this is a DPS/tDPS LOSS for my character. -12079 DPS, -27280 tDPS
- Buffed with WOTB this is a DPS LOSS . -18026 DPS, -46315 tDPS.
No, a Ruby in my weapons main hand slot is a BAD idea.
If you want to be smart about your purchases your looking for a combo that uses:
Immortal King's Chest -- 160str, max vitality Immortal King's Head -- 180str 65 all resistance immortal King's Gloves -- Max strength, max crit dmg
Inna's Pants -- Choose between Strength, vitality or all resistance Zunimassa's Boots -- 80str, 65vit, 50all res, 8 poison dmg Witching Hour -- Max strength, max crit dmg Stone of Jordan -- 30 elite dmg, 6 cold dmg, ability bonus does not matter
Crafted Bracers -- Very high strength, 5-6 crit and either high vit or all res required Crafted Amulet -- Max strength, max crit dmg Crafted Shoulders -- High strength, both vit and all res are required
Life Steal on BOTH Weapons -- Crit dmg, socket and life steal on both.
Basically what that combination builds on is that instead of spreading every stat you want everywhere (which makes your items cost a shitload more) you choose a few defensive slots and get everything from there which allows you to compensate with multiple glass cannon slots.
Interesting. i've heard about the benefit of Inna pants before. but everything i've read says only once you have a retarded amount of damage. would this gear you've suggested hit that point?
PS. Dont be a dumdum and craft ..of vitality items!
this directly conflicts with something i've allways heard, whitch is to craft "Of Vitality" shoulders, because spads of str can at most roll 200 vit 330 str... whereas vit spads can get a 330 vit 300 str roll. this makes "of Vit" a gain of 100 stat points.
would be nice if you stated exactly how much gold you have to spend in order for us to help you properly,
Welp rly diddnt want to say, but i sold a 6 crit chance dex mempo. my budget is conservativly around 1 billion (inb4 omg you diddnt sell that for a bill did you?!?!: no i sold it for a bit over 2 billion, but i want to hold some of my gold i got from it back, and sell on the RMAH to recoup some costs from wow timecards and buying Diablo 3 :3)
and i wish i could add you. im north america server. ;(
If youre into simming stuff then perhaps you should take your eyes off the damn DPS gained/lost text and actually see how the crit damage loss/average damage increase will affect your main ABILITIES. Normally the values of Strength and Average damage is very similar, but because youre using weapons with the %damage stat the value of Average damage instantly increases by an equal amount, this is something d3rawr and the ingame calculator has no idea about.
theres no need to be hostile. i wasnt trying to be smug saying i was simming something, or that what you were suggesting appeared to be a dps loss. i was using the info i had available to try to understand what you were saying, and it diddnt seem correct.
Thanks for the info about D3Rawr, i wasnt aware of that limitation in the site. i'll keep that in mind. can you estimate for me what Rubied mainhand would do to my dps (not paperdoll dps. i do know that paterdoll dps is essentially meaningless, whitch is why i brought up tDPS in my last post.)
If you want to be super creative a better but harder to find choice would be to get very defensive pants and a Tyrael's Might. This will increase your output the most.
buh? im guessing because of Tyrael's +15% to demons?
I'll try some of this out. for now, i kind of want to stay with dual wielding. So for now i want to look into different weapons.. Mainhand Str Crit Socket LS %damage (preferably black damage). Offhand EF with LS/Socket?
as for my other pieces, i should probably just start crafting Spads bracers and ammys so i have them ready, i guess.
im kind of suprised you dont suggest Trifect pieces anywhere.
Here is what I did to go from 180k unbuffed, to now a beautiful 253k unbuffed:
-- Bought a Mempo with CHC, 4% with 180ish STR, bought it for 220mil. Score. 12kish dmg increase. -- New EF, gave me another 12k dmg.
-- New WH belt, gave me about 14k along with 69AR/+HP. -- Picked up a new Ammy for about 60mil, gave me an 11k dps increase. -- Picked up a upgraded Lacuni with 6% CHC etc. That gave about 8-9k dps increase. -- I also maxed all my STR gems and crafted 2 Marq Emeralds for both of my weapons, alot of easy dps there.
Sitting at over 454k buffed with everything up. I think nowadays its alittle easy to find uprades as prices for in between gear is going down? It seems like it anyways...
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Well i took some of the suggestions in this thread. im up to about 175K dps unbuffed, 200k buffed with BR. elites die much faster. im going to run a hota/ww variant. might just switch full on to a HOTA build, it really seems like a fun play style.
edit just noticed i bought a fire damage SoJ instead of a cold damage one. oh well.
Here is what I did to go from 180k unbuffed, to now a beautiful 253k unbuffed:
-- Bought a Mempo with CHC, 4% with 180ish STR, bought it for 220mil. Score. 12kish dmg increase. -- New EF, gave me another 12k dmg.
-- New WH belt, gave me about 14k along with 69AR/+HP. -- Picked up a new Ammy for about 60mil, gave me an 11k dps increase. -- Picked up a upgraded Lacuni with 6% CHC etc. That gave about 8-9k dps increase. -- I also maxed all my STR gems and crafted 2 Marq Emeralds for both of my weapons, alot of easy dps there.
Sitting at over 454k buffed with everything up. I think nowadays its alittle easy to find uprades as prices for in between gear is going down? It seems like it anyways...
wait, what? 253k unbuffed and only 454k buffed?
ive got just above 200k and im almost at 500k with buffs up:S
Sry, not to familiar with sites on configuring true dps. Sorted it out now, I sit at 566k fully buffed. *Unsure if I missed out on things. Using d3rawr.
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Looks like your progressing well. Just want to say that you don't need LS on both weapons if you're running blood lust. LS on one weapon is suffiicient. You can get a higher damage weapon and drop LS on one of them.
I get by with just 2.6LS. Against ubers i'll run blood lust as well for 5.6 total.
Another thing is check your WW/sprint breakpoints. You'll likely be able to hit a higher breakopint by going with a sword off hand (dagger off hand is good for sprint but too low damage for HOTA). Higher breakpoint means more true damage, fury regen, and thus life leech.
^1 source of LS + bloodthirst is already 5+ ls. It's more than enough. In fact I only run bloodthirst against mp10 ubers. Otherwise, 2.6 is fine for me all cases.
Who recommended a slower weapon? If you read my post I actually recommend a faster weapon than an axe as off hand.
I dont use an IK belt. I just use 2.6 weapon and 3 from bloodlust and I rarely die. I solo mp10 ubers without a problem. I do anywhere form 5-10 uber carries a day and 5.6LS is more than enough for any situation on mp10.
I recommended a sword as an off hand, better than an axe any day. I only mentioned a dagger off hand for sprint since sprint's damage is only based on main hand damage. For anything else I would go EF+sword. Read carefully and take a look at my profile.
IMO, the best are good mace / axe with EF as OH in my mind, i have wrong ?
Right now Im using an EF as my MH, then an AXE as my OH. (Off hand has 100% CD/ 3.00% LS/ Open Socket, etc. Look at my armory in profile if you want to see more. It was the only thing closest to the dps I had before finding a LS weapon. So worth it.)
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Saturday night i sold the most amazing item I've ever found and come into a windfall of gold larger than i ever thought possible.
I want to upgrade my barbarian from the ~130k DPS range unbuffed up more toward the 200k Dps range, Unbuffed.
Currently im running WW with Rend instead of a fury generator.
i generally farm scorps and Skeletons in KD2/AC2 on MP10.
what would you upgrade next?
Fixed my armory link.
https://www.youtube.com/CORExpertGaming
https://www.youtube.com/CORExpertGaming
i have a semi-cheap skorn in my bags, it only provides a 4k dps upgrade, and the nado tick rate drops drastically meaning it seems more of a dps Loss to use the skorn, at least the one i currently have.
Edit: About the skorn. If you get a good one you don't really need to spin to win anymore. It's rend to win
Edit x2: rend is all about hitting like a truck(crit chance/damge, avg damage, and str. Attack speed is not nearly as important any more)
https://www.youtube.com/CORExpertGaming
What stats would you recommend looking for on a skorn? Str in the 300 range, CC in the 180 range, but for the Random do i want LS or something else?
As you can see from my gear, Attack speed has been something i've been aquiring. due to that, should i look into a HOTA build instead of a rend build? i've seen some guides of HOTA builds doing pretty solid damage. would HOTA work allright with 2 x 1h, as long as i brought my OH's damage up?
Attack speed is an Offense stat. not a support stat. it makes you generate back HP faster through life steal because it is bringing your DPS up. (for me currently each point of attack speed is worh about 1k dps, whereas a point of Crit chance is worth 1600k dps and Crit Damage is only worth 218 a point (5 points of CD worth around 1 AS, and 7 pts of CD for 1 CC. that said. obviously getting 50CD is a hell of a lot easier than getting 50 AS or 50 crit.). IAS also hits Breakpoints for tornadoes, and nadoes are the primary damagesource for WW barbs.
One sec while i Sim Ruby mainhand.
- Unbuffed this is a dps/tdps LOSS for my character. -9721 DPS, -21075 tDPS.
- Buffed this is a DPS/tDPS LOSS for my character. -12079 DPS, -27280 tDPS
- Buffed with WOTB this is a DPS LOSS . -18026 DPS, -46315 tDPS.
No, a Ruby in my weapons main hand slot is a BAD idea.
Interesting. i've heard about the benefit of Inna pants before. but everything i've read says only once you have a retarded amount of damage. would this gear you've suggested hit that point?
this directly conflicts with something i've allways heard, whitch is to craft "Of Vitality" shoulders, because spads of str can at most roll 200 vit 330 str... whereas vit spads can get a 330 vit 300 str roll. this makes "of Vit" a gain of 100 stat points.
Welp rly diddnt want to say, but i sold a 6 crit chance dex mempo. my budget is conservativly around 1 billion (inb4 omg you diddnt sell that for a bill did you?!?!: no i sold it for a bit over 2 billion, but i want to hold some of my gold i got from it back, and sell on the RMAH to recoup some costs from wow timecards and buying Diablo 3 :3)
and i wish i could add you. im north america server. ;(
theres no need to be hostile. i wasnt trying to be smug saying i was simming something, or that what you were suggesting appeared to be a dps loss. i was using the info i had available to try to understand what you were saying, and it diddnt seem correct.
Thanks for the info about D3Rawr, i wasnt aware of that limitation in the site. i'll keep that in mind. can you estimate for me what Rubied mainhand would do to my dps (not paperdoll dps. i do know that paterdoll dps is essentially meaningless, whitch is why i brought up tDPS in my last post.)
buh? im guessing because of Tyrael's +15% to demons?
as for my other pieces, i should probably just start crafting Spads bracers and ammys so i have them ready, i guess.
im kind of suprised you dont suggest Trifect pieces anywhere.
Here is what I did to go from 180k unbuffed, to now a beautiful 253k unbuffed:
-- Bought a Mempo with CHC, 4% with 180ish STR, bought it for 220mil. Score. 12kish dmg increase.
-- New EF, gave me another 12k dmg.
-- New WH belt, gave me about 14k along with 69AR/+HP.
-- Picked up a new Ammy for about 60mil, gave me an 11k dps increase.
-- Picked up a upgraded Lacuni with 6% CHC etc. That gave about 8-9k dps increase.
-- I also maxed all my STR gems and crafted 2 Marq Emeralds for both of my weapons, alot of easy dps there.
Sitting at over 454k buffed with everything up. I think nowadays its alittle easy to find uprades as prices for in between gear is going down? It seems like it anyways...
Twitch.tv: twitch.tv/mehsiah | Youtube/Twitter in the future.
edit just noticed i bought a fire damage SoJ instead of a cold damage one. oh well.
I ALSO RECORDED A VIDEO of my post upgrade killing!
Sry, not to familiar with sites on configuring true dps. Sorted it out now, I sit at 566k fully buffed. *Unsure if I missed out on things. Using d3rawr.
Twitch.tv: twitch.tv/mehsiah | Youtube/Twitter in the future.
I get by with just 2.6LS. Against ubers i'll run blood lust as well for 5.6 total.
Another thing is check your WW/sprint breakpoints. You'll likely be able to hit a higher breakopint by going with a sword off hand (dagger off hand is good for sprint but too low damage for HOTA). Higher breakpoint means more true damage, fury regen, and thus life leech.
Who recommended a slower weapon? If you read my post I actually recommend a faster weapon than an axe as off hand.
Seems like you're just ranting to rant.
I recommended a sword as an off hand, better than an axe any day. I only mentioned a dagger off hand for sprint since sprint's damage is only based on main hand damage. For anything else I would go EF+sword. Read carefully and take a look at my profile.
Right now Im using an EF as my MH, then an AXE as my OH. (Off hand has 100% CD/ 3.00% LS/ Open Socket, etc. Look at my armory in profile if you want to see more. It was the only thing closest to the dps I had before finding a LS weapon. So worth it.)
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