So, I'm reading the topics about ACT II Inferno (+ the guide) and I still have questions about it.
Some people says you need 700res+, other you need 40k health, and other people says you need 9k armor… Ok, how can you achieve all this stats with Act I Inferno gear?! (or Hell/Nightmarish gear)
Really, right now, with my stats, me and a friend of mine (playing Demon Hunter with, I believe, 30-40k DPS) are able to farm Act I Inferno without any problem at all (yup, like me standing in the Plague/Chains/etc) but we are/were being ate alive in Act II.
The deal is: I couldn't find any upgrade in Act I so far. Not even gear for my "DPS" set… Am I really unlucky?
I believe my stats are low (if you compare to all the other topics) - as you can see, my DPS is kinda lame but, once again, i'm playing with a friend and she is doing the dps for us. Our issue, right now in Act II, is to get owned in 3-5secs.
Anyway, the real question is: How to get 40k health, 9k armor, 700res, 10k dps with the available gear in the content I can actually do?!
I run act 2 on my barb with 13k dps, 600 resist to all self buff, 45k HP and 9k armor with the enchantress.
Takes me 20-30 min to do a balial run with 5 stacks.
I can see that your helm is blue. Try to get a helm of command. Alot of people are crafting this helm and its possibly one of the best one for a barb.
If you farm act 1 salvage all the lvl 60 items. I can get easilly the mats for 2 of this helm in one day.
Drop some of your resist to get more armor. you really dont need that much for Act 2.\
Youre missing like 600 strengh which would help your dps and your armor.
So, I'm reading the topics about ACT II Inferno (+ the guide) and I still have questions about it.
Some people says you need 700res+, other you need 40k health, and other people says you need 9k armor… Ok, how can you achieve all this stats with Act I Inferno gear?! (or Hell/Nightmarish gear)
Really, right now, with my stats, me and a friend of mine (playing Demon Hunter with, I believe, 30-40k DPS) are able to farm Act I Inferno without any problem at all (yup, like me standing in the Plague/Chains/etc) but we are/were being ate alive in Act II.
The deal is: I couldn't find any upgrade in Act I so far. Not even gear for my "DPS" set… Am I really unlucky?
I believe my stats are low (if you compare to all the other topics) - as you can see, my DPS is kinda lame but, once again, i'm playing with a friend and she is doing the dps for us. Our issue, right now in Act II, is to get owned in 3-5secs.
Anyway, the real question is: How to get 40k health, 9k armor, 700res, 10k dps with the available gear in the content I can actually do?!
Also to add, I cant see your block % and block amount from that screenshot. They are _crucial_, also your dps is way too low.
Yes, I know. Like I said, I have a friend of mine doing the dps... right now i was focused in surviving (pure Stamina/All Resist Gear).
Not sure how much my % block and block value are. I think I don't have any gear with this kind of bonus =/
(I didn't know this stat was important for barbs - I noticed it after reading some posts today!)
But I will try to farm Act I once again and check AH (again) ehehheh
Get a good and fast weapon (600+ dps and 400+ life on hit) and a shield with at least 20+ block. Gear with increased attack speed and block is also extremely good!
Right now my weapons is around 619ish dps and i'm not sure about the block - gonna check it later (I didn't know this stat was so important for us, barbarians).
I used the Leap (+armor rune) when i was running Normal/Nightmare solo and having a lot of fun - gonna try it in Inferno too, thanks!
I can see that your helm is blue. Try to get a helm of command. Alot of people are crafting this helm and its possibly one of the best one for a barb.
Drop some of your resist to get more armor. you really dont need that much for Act 2.\
Youre missing like 600 strengh which would help your dps and your armor.
Gonna do it tonight and see how much costs the Helm!
Wow...Your stats are real un even thats for sure...Your super heavy on the resist and Way to low on dps and Armor. Most of your problems are steming from the amount of physical damage you are taking and not block/dodge/negating.
I just went though this act II debocle myself also with a demon hunter. Step one. the almighty superstition. Ditch it. There are many threads about this all over, This dose not scale to the proper 20% once u hit Inferno due to the amount of resistances and armor you have on your own. (E.G i get hit for 100 - 50% armor takes damage to 50, 40% res takes damage to 10 , 20% of 10 damage is 2.)
Secondly Gear. Your super Heavy in your resist i cleared act II 550 min all res 800 physical and 800 fire. most people say around 700 but once u get higher enough armor and physical resistance u can see how much elemental damage your actually taking. The next factor that made this act super easy for me was LoH (Life on Hit). I noticed i was gettin chunked for mass amounts of my health by the stronger mobs and there were significantly less health orbs on Inferno (since i took off the orb passive for armor). So i countered this problem with a healthy 800-1000 Life on hit and a 1.9 ApS (attacks per second). there are some super cheap pieces on the AH u can aquire to help this (my first choice would be the Bul kathos wedding band. i got 144 LoH 24 all res and MF for 100k).
Now lastly DPS. I also had a demon hunter "DPS'n" for me but this game dont work like that...when a second player joins the mobs health almost doubles. If you arnt putting out your end no matter how good your DH is there not going to down mobs before u die. So how did I fix this for myself? I ditched my sword n board grabbed up a high dps 2h. My dps was around 20k, around 14k with 1h n shield.
Lastly my Skills. i used ground stomp > Wrenching Smash, Fury > Sidearm, Furious Charge > dreadnought, Revenge > Provocation, War Cry > Impunity , WotB > Insanity. Passives Nerves of Steal, Tough as nails, and i bounce between Ruthless and Zerker Rage (which i end up being full fury most time due to the no secondary skill/ rage dump).
My General stats were
35k Hp
20k Dps
8.3k Armor
500 Min All Res 800 Max
0 Block
17% dodge
975 LoH
1.9 APS
12% crit 128% crit dmg
Get Tough As Nails. Your main problem right now is that your armor isn't high enough, IMHO. Armor reduces magic damage in D3, so it should be superior to Superstition.
Also, you need to have a better defensive skill than Ground Stomp, since stuns are so ineffective against Champs, Elites, and Bosses in Inferno. Try Leap with Iron Impact - it multiplies your armor by 4x (!!!) for 4 seconds, and the cooldown is only 10 secs, so it helps survivability by a ton. Use it every fight and use it on cooldown.
One more thing - get a better weapon, man. 3k DPS is pretty harsh, and I'm not sure you'll be able to duo without everyone doing damage (group play buffs enemy HP). I'm not suggesting you go ultra-DPS-mega-glass-cannon spec, but a 6k+ should help a lot, if you can get it without sacrificing much defense. To put it simply - you do less damage than a companion, but enemies have more hit points for group play, so that might be part of your problem.
( Just a heads up: I didn't read the lasts posts )
I'm here just to let you guys know I was able to run Act II and killed Maghda!
I spent like 1.200.000g in AH and sold some pieces of my DPS gear to buy the new pieces ahahhaahah...
I still don't have the best gear so it was a really dangerous run. Actually, against the "normal" mobs, I didn't die (only against some Whasps/huge group combo). Of course, I ran away from the elites, like JAILER ARCANE ENCHANTED FIRE CHAINS CONFLAGRATE (i always forgot the name of this affix).
Maghda itself was fun and not hard at all - oh yeah, the last group is really dangerous but I could kill her 1-shot.
My new stats: http://img96.imagesh...bgear13june.jpg
( My dps with full rage was 10k or 12k, not sure... )
*** Self-buffed + Enchantress buff but w/o the Berserk Rage bonus ***
1 upgrade you should look out for is a new shield in my opinion.
Try to get a sacred shield (those big white shields). they block up to 4704 dmg and will be very good for your survivability. also the block chance on the shield can be better, try to have one with 20% or close to that.
as for skills, you can also try Ignore pain. Leap into a pack, once the extra armor buff is gone pop ignore pain, then leap again
Try to get a sacred shield (those big white shields). they block up to 4704 dmg and will be very good for your survivability. also the block chance on the shield can be better, try to have one with 20% or close to that.
Easy to say =P
I couldn't find any shield with good stats selling for a reasonable price (I couldn't afford a shield costing 500k D:).
Anyway, things worked last night - slow, but worked. I might try to keep searching AH for more armor/dps gear while I try to keep (or increase) my resistances.
I think I will change the Furious Charge to Overpower, seens to be more consistent (ok, 5secs more downtime, but...)
I run act 2 on my barb with 13k dps, 600 resist to all self buff, 45k HP and 9k armor with the enchantress.
Takes me 20-30 min to do a balial run with 5 stacks.
i call bullshit on this, with 13k dps it takes me 12min just to kill Belial so i cant see how you can get 5 stacks and kill Belial in just 30min
2. Always always always use leap with armor rune, its like a 3 second immortality.
- Already doing it
3. Swap smite for sidearm or maniac depending on your play style, the stun on 1mob isn't good enough for you - you want to be surrounded by mobs spamming revenge.
- I was thinking about it few hours ago. I'm going to change the rune to Maniac then test with Sidearm too, but thanks for the heads up!
4. GET A NEW SHIELD FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING! with 10% block and 1550 to 2k block absorb you might as well dual wield, I cannot stress this enough.
- Yes. I know, but like i said before: I couldn't find any great upgrade for less than 500k in AH last night - I think more people are going to use the RMAH now =/
But this is my first priority
5. I'd try to get some more life on hit (I know its expensive but well worth it!)
- Yes! Another thing I was thinking this morning. Thanks again!
The big reason why those two stats are so hugely important, is that once you get your resistances and armour up to high levels (wich you already have for act2) the individual hits you take are quite low, so with so high block ammount and chance, those blocks basically nullify those attacks alltogether.
- I was thinking about it. Gonna check if I find a good Sacred Shield in AH...
One thing:
If I swap my shield to, let's say, one without ALL RESIST but with more Block%/Value (hopefully armor), is that ok to do Act II with less than 700 AllResist?
Last night I got a new shield, with less armor (980ish), same amount of Str/Vit, 23% passive block rate + 8% Block Bonus and 1.8-3k (not sure) Block Value. I played both SOLO (using the same build as the last time) and COOP (with a Demon Hunter with 75k DPS Ö_o) and I/we got OWNED all the time. Just to try to explain: I couldn't kill (solo) a pack of Nightmare/Mortar/Jailer/Avenger...
Like i said before I lost AllResistance (my lowest resistance now is 650ish) but now I have around 38% Block Chance when I changed my shield...
The question is:
What the heck happened?! ahahhahahha
I did a better run with a worst Shield. Did Blizzard changed anything last night?
Anyway, after spending a lot of gold in AH and getting (constantly) pwned in Act II (and losing a lot of gold in Repairs) now I feel very upset. I kinda lost my "joy" playing with my Barb =/
Well, let's see what happens after 1.0.3 (but I don't think anything good is going to happen after RMAH).
Some people says you need 700res+, other you need 40k health, and other people says you need 9k armor… Ok, how can you achieve all this stats with Act I Inferno gear?! (or Hell/Nightmarish gear)
Really, right now, with my stats, me and a friend of mine (playing Demon Hunter with, I believe, 30-40k DPS) are able to farm Act I Inferno without any problem at all (yup, like me standing in the Plague/Chains/etc) but we are/were being ate alive in Act II.
The deal is: I couldn't find any upgrade in Act I so far. Not even gear for my "DPS" set… Am I really unlucky?
I believe my stats are low (if you compare to all the other topics) - as you can see, my DPS is kinda lame but, once again, i'm playing with a friend and she is doing the dps for us. Our issue, right now in Act II, is to get owned in 3-5secs.
Anyway, the real question is: How to get 40k health, 9k armor, 700res, 10k dps with the available gear in the content I can actually do?!
Stats:
https://fbcdn-sphoto...874969490_o.jpg
- self-buffed: War Cry + Impunity
Skills:
http://us.battle.net...kYVP!abe!aYcZcY
- I'm going to change my Ground Stomp to Furious Charge + Dreadnought and hope the mobs don't chase/kill her
- I might change the Pound of Flesh (witch is/was really useful so far) to Tough as Nail (25% armor)
- Maybe changing Superstition to Relentless to do some testing[?].
Thanks a lot
V.
PS: Sorry bout the lame english, not my main language.
Takes me 20-30 min to do a balial run with 5 stacks.
I can see that your helm is blue. Try to get a helm of command. Alot of people are crafting this helm and its possibly one of the best one for a barb.
If you farm act 1 salvage all the lvl 60 items. I can get easilly the mats for 2 of this helm in one day.
Drop some of your resist to get more armor. you really dont need that much for Act 2.\
Youre missing like 600 strengh which would help your dps and your armor.
Hope it help
Months of Months of Farming? but...:
"Release Date: May 15, 2012"
D3 was released less than 1 month ago! ;D
But I got your point. /sadpanda.
Farming pony level inferno still gives me crap
Done prob 20 runs so far and abosolutely nothing yet ?!
All vendor rubbish
RNG is not our friend
Yes, I know. Like I said, I have a friend of mine doing the dps... right now i was focused in surviving (pure Stamina/All Resist Gear).
Not sure how much my % block and block value are. I think I don't have any gear with this kind of bonus =/
(I didn't know this stat was important for barbs - I noticed it after reading some posts today!)
But I will try to farm Act I once again and check AH (again) ehehheh
Thanks.
Right now my weapons is around 619ish dps and i'm not sure about the block - gonna check it later (I didn't know this stat was so important for us, barbarians).
I used the Leap (+armor rune) when i was running Normal/Nightmare solo and having a lot of fun - gonna try it in Inferno too, thanks!
V.
Gonna do it tonight and see how much costs the Helm!
Btw, all the blue pieces are >70vit >40allResist.
Thanks a lot!
I just went though this act II debocle myself also with a demon hunter. Step one. the almighty superstition. Ditch it. There are many threads about this all over, This dose not scale to the proper 20% once u hit Inferno due to the amount of resistances and armor you have on your own. (E.G i get hit for 100 - 50% armor takes damage to 50, 40% res takes damage to 10 , 20% of 10 damage is 2.)
Secondly Gear. Your super Heavy in your resist i cleared act II 550 min all res 800 physical and 800 fire. most people say around 700 but once u get higher enough armor and physical resistance u can see how much elemental damage your actually taking. The next factor that made this act super easy for me was LoH (Life on Hit). I noticed i was gettin chunked for mass amounts of my health by the stronger mobs and there were significantly less health orbs on Inferno (since i took off the orb passive for armor). So i countered this problem with a healthy 800-1000 Life on hit and a 1.9 ApS (attacks per second). there are some super cheap pieces on the AH u can aquire to help this (my first choice would be the Bul kathos wedding band. i got 144 LoH 24 all res and MF for 100k).
Now lastly DPS. I also had a demon hunter "DPS'n" for me but this game dont work like that...when a second player joins the mobs health almost doubles. If you arnt putting out your end no matter how good your DH is there not going to down mobs before u die. So how did I fix this for myself? I ditched my sword n board grabbed up a high dps 2h. My dps was around 20k, around 14k with 1h n shield.
Lastly my Skills. i used ground stomp > Wrenching Smash, Fury > Sidearm, Furious Charge > dreadnought, Revenge > Provocation, War Cry > Impunity , WotB > Insanity. Passives Nerves of Steal, Tough as nails, and i bounce between Ruthless and Zerker Rage (which i end up being full fury most time due to the no secondary skill/ rage dump).
My General stats were
35k Hp
20k Dps
8.3k Armor
500 Min All Res 800 Max
0 Block
17% dodge
975 LoH
1.9 APS
12% crit 128% crit dmg
The real issue we found in act II was me/us dying before she had a chance to start killing stuff
But I will change/buy new pieces - less resistance, more armor/str/vit - and see what happens!
Thanks a lot!
V.
Also, you need to have a better defensive skill than Ground Stomp, since stuns are so ineffective against Champs, Elites, and Bosses in Inferno. Try Leap with Iron Impact - it multiplies your armor by 4x (!!!) for 4 seconds, and the cooldown is only 10 secs, so it helps survivability by a ton. Use it every fight and use it on cooldown.
One more thing - get a better weapon, man. 3k DPS is pretty harsh, and I'm not sure you'll be able to duo without everyone doing damage (group play buffs enemy HP). I'm not suggesting you go ultra-DPS-mega-glass-cannon spec, but a 6k+ should help a lot, if you can get it without sacrificing much defense. To put it simply - you do less damage than a companion, but enemies have more hit points for group play, so that might be part of your problem.
Hope this helps!
I'm here just to let you guys know I was able to run Act II and killed Maghda!
I spent like 1.200.000g in AH and sold some pieces of my DPS gear to buy the new pieces ahahhaahah...
I still don't have the best gear so it was a really dangerous run. Actually, against the "normal" mobs, I didn't die (only against some Whasps/huge group combo). Of course, I ran away from the elites, like JAILER ARCANE ENCHANTED FIRE CHAINS CONFLAGRATE (i always forgot the name of this affix).
Maghda itself was fun and not hard at all - oh yeah, the last group is really dangerous but I could kill her 1-shot.
My new stats:
http://img96.imagesh...bgear13june.jpg
( My dps with full rage was 10k or 12k, not sure... )
*** Self-buffed + Enchantress buff but w/o the Berserk Rage bonus ***
My new build:
http://us.battle.net...kSVP!bVc!YacccZ
( I dislike Furious Charge, only worked nice to run free from the Jail ehehhehe )
and the "proof" (not that killing her is a big accomplishment but...)
http://img215.images...enshot009jx.jpg
PS: I was using the Enchantress as Follower but she wasn't doing much dps - she still wearing Nightmarish gear.... ahahahhah
PS2: I played Solo.
1 upgrade you should look out for is a new shield in my opinion.
Try to get a sacred shield (those big white shields). they block up to 4704 dmg and will be very good for your survivability. also the block chance on the shield can be better, try to have one with 20% or close to that.
as for skills, you can also try Ignore pain. Leap into a pack, once the extra armor buff is gone pop ignore pain, then leap again
Easy to say =P
I couldn't find any shield with good stats selling for a reasonable price (I couldn't afford a shield costing 500k D:).
Anyway, things worked last night - slow, but worked. I might try to keep searching AH for more armor/dps gear while I try to keep (or increase) my resistances.
I think I will change the Furious Charge to Overpower, seens to be more consistent (ok, 5secs more downtime, but...)
Thanks,
V.
Takes me 5 min to kill balial
- I was thinking about it few hours ago. I'm going to change the rune to Maniac then test with Sidearm too, but thanks for the heads up!
- Yes. I know, but like i said before: I couldn't find any great upgrade for less than 500k in AH last night - I think more people are going to use the RMAH now =/
But this is my first priority
- Yes! Another thing I was thinking this morning. Thanks again!
*
- I was thinking about it. Gonna check if I find a good Sacred Shield in AH...
One thing:
If I swap my shield to, let's say, one without ALL RESIST but with more Block%/Value (hopefully armor), is that ok to do Act II with less than 700 AllResist?
Thanks again!
V.
Last night I got a new shield, with less armor (980ish), same amount of Str/Vit, 23% passive block rate + 8% Block Bonus and 1.8-3k (not sure) Block Value. I played both SOLO (using the same build as the last time) and COOP (with a Demon Hunter with 75k DPS Ö_o) and I/we got OWNED all the time. Just to try to explain: I couldn't kill (solo) a pack of Nightmare/Mortar/Jailer/Avenger...
Like i said before I lost AllResistance (my lowest resistance now is 650ish) but now I have around 38% Block Chance when I changed my shield...
The question is:
What the heck happened?! ahahhahahha
I did a better run with a worst Shield. Did Blizzard changed anything last night?
Anyway, after spending a lot of gold in AH and getting (constantly) pwned in Act II (and losing a lot of gold in Repairs) now I feel very upset. I kinda lost my "joy" playing with my Barb =/
Well, let's see what happens after 1.0.3 (but I don't think anything good is going to happen after RMAH).
Thanks a lot folks.
V.
Are you talking about the 1st screenshot in this thread? If yes, I should say I changed almost every piece of my old gear.
If you are talking about my new set (I posted a screenshot yesterday), I have no idea why my stats are "god awful". Do you mind to explain?
Thanks,
V.