Don't bend over for corporate shenanigans like this. Something as basic as just having the simple option to play the game single player is not something that is asking way too much. If they could do it for D2 there's no way it is too cost prohibitive to do it for D3.
Um, you're the one who bent over. You didn't like the always-online *and bought the game anyway* evidently. I bought it knowingly and made the choice on my own.
So what's your excuse for giving Blizzard money for a game with a feature you say you hate? And yes, we knew months ahead of time that *single* player would be online, too, not just multiplayer.
There is no "excuse" on my part because I am not being unreasonable. Blizzard is being unreasonable by saying that you have to play this game online and you have to conform their schedule. If the server isn't up, tough. If there's maintenance and you want to play on Tuesdays, tough. If you have Internet issues, tough.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
There is no "excuse" on my part because I am not being unreasonable. Blizzard is being unreasonable by saying that you have to play this game online and you have to conform their schedule. If the server isn't up, tough. If there's maintenance and you want to play on Tuesdays, tough. If you have Internet issues, tough.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
Mavfin, if there is a problem in your hometown or country do you just keep your mouth shut and not say a word? People who love something will strive to improve upon it, not just passively sit back and allow things to remain as they are. I know I can only judge you based upon your forum posts, but you seem to be apathy defined.
There is no "excuse" on my part because I am not being unreasonable. Blizzard is being unreasonable by saying that you have to play this game online and you have to conform their schedule. If the server isn't up, tough. If there's maintenance and you want to play on Tuesdays, tough. If you have Internet issues, tough.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
You paid for the game, you signed the EULA, you stole Fizzy Lifting Drink. You had the choice of voicing your outrage over the "always online" by simply not buying the game. However, you still purchased the game and feel the need to harp on others enjoying the game as sheep to their corporate overlords. If you really had any sort of fortitude to protest aspects of the game you knew were there months in advance you'd not buy the game. But you did and you play. Now who is more the sheep? The people who are fine and dandy with it and enjoy the game or you who is angry and bitter toward the "capitalist pigs" but still felt compelled to give them your money.
There is no "excuse" on my part because I am not being unreasonable. Blizzard is being unreasonable by saying that you have to play this game online and you have to conform their schedule. If the server isn't up, tough. If there's maintenance and you want to play on Tuesdays, tough. If you have Internet issues, tough.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
You do realize that this is how OTHER buisness take a share of the market. So why don't you do what they do and build your own game like diablo 3 and that you can play offline. *Gasp* Oh wait your too lazy to go to a store and get one. You knew this game was online months beforeyou bought it. So quit digging the horse up.
You guys make it sound as though knowing about a major drawback of a product beforehand somehow makes it completely acceptable. Again, with my car analogy, just because they tell you that you'll have to cut off your finger does not make it okay that you have to cut off your finger to own a car. I want to play Diablo III, I want to enjoy the game. But you guys are making it out to be this all or nothing deal and that because I purchased the game that I am somehow accepting that the game is perfectly fine.
Keep in mind that extremist mindset also applies to you as well. Upset with the AH? "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THERE WOULD BE AN AH." Upset that Inferno is not properly balanced for melee. "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THAT INFERNO WAS VERY DIFFICULT." Do you see how that line of thinking doesn't work out so well?
I love Diablo III and it is a great game. But it is annoying as hell that I cannot play it right now. Or for the next two hours. Or when the servers go down. Or most of the first week. Or when my internet connection has issues. Or that some friends of mine are chained to Hell difficulty because simply lagging for ten seconds in Inferno can mean pure death.
So, let's get right to the point. WHY is single player not allowed? I proclaim it is because they want to push people towards the real money auction house. If someone can offer a valid reason beyond this I ask you to share it here. Keep in mind that Skyrim was ultra successful and it was a single player, offline game so any argument that cannot be applied to that game will be dismissed.
You're car analogy is lacking. It should be more along the lines of a car manufacturer allowing you to buy a car but it has to remain running the entire time. You can only turn it on once. Simply you would say to yourself, I'll just buy a different car from a different manufacturer. Instead you buy the car and then complain about a feature you knew was there before you gave them money. I agree we should question the status quo when things are forced upon us. However you had the choice to question it when you paid $60 for this game.
Skyrim is a completely different game with zero social element to it. Also you could hack and mod it to your heart's content. Congratulations, you just compared apples to orangutans.
There is no "excuse" on my part because I am not being unreasonable. Blizzard is being unreasonable by saying that you have to play this game online and you have to conform their schedule. If the server isn't up, tough. If there's maintenance and you want to play on Tuesdays, tough. If you have Internet issues, tough.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
I've seen you attack capitalism more than once (using adjectives such as "extremist"), and then you post the highlighted comment....and it all makes sense. As I stated in another thread - we now live in the Era of Entitlement, where nobody wants to work for anything anymore, and everybody feels entitled to everything immediately, if not before. You want all the options? Fine....but I would wager you would then be complaining about the fact those extra options cost an extra x amount of money.
I'll go a step further - the country you currently reside in....if they tell you that you have to conform to their rules, but you disagree with them, do you feel you're entitled to the option of not following them?
You guys make it sound as though knowing about a major drawback of a product beforehand somehow makes it completely acceptable. Again, with my car analogy, just because they tell you that you'll have to cut off your finger does not make it okay that you have to cut off your finger to own a car. I want to play Diablo III, I want to enjoy the game. But you guys are making it out to be this all or nothing deal and that because I purchased the game that I am somehow accepting that the game is perfectly fine.
Keep in mind that extremist mindset also applies to you as well. Upset with the AH? "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THERE WOULD BE AN AH." Upset that Inferno is not properly balanced for melee. "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THAT INFERNO WAS VERY DIFFICULT." Do you see how that line of thinking doesn't work out so well?
I love Diablo III and it is a great game. But it is annoying as hell that I cannot play it right now. Or for the next two hours. Or when the servers go down. Or most of the first week. Or when my internet connection has issues. Or that some friends of mine are chained to Hell difficulty because simply lagging for ten seconds in Inferno can mean pure death.
So, let's get right to the point. WHY is single player not allowed? I proclaim it is because they want to push people towards the real money auction house. If someone can offer a valid reason beyond this I ask you to share it here. Keep in mind that Skyrim was ultra successful and it was a single player, offline game so any argument that cannot be applied to that game will be dismissed.
Your car analogy is based on the fallatious assumption that all available cars have that rule about the finger. It does not apply to video games, where not all video games are on-line only.
So, let's get right to the point. WHY is single player not allowed? I proclaim it is because they want to push people towards the real money auction house. If someone can offer a valid reason beyond this I ask you to share it here. Keep in mind that Skyrim was ultra successful and it was a single player, offline game so any argument that cannot be applied to that game will be dismissed.
Maybe it is for pushing people towards the RMAH, but keep in mind it could also be for simplicity.
Like updates, hotfixes, the ability to change mechanics/stats on items/monsters without requiring patches. (Due to files be on blizzards end.)
I for know one reason that I would have an online-only game : Piracy. I know it's not the main drive but you would be daft to believe that it isn't making them more money. It's not the best solutions for it, there are other ways to authenticate real users and such. (Such as a weekly one-time connection, things of that sort.)
Also making making sure everyone is on the same level/update at the same time is nice too, eliminates a lot of "are you up to date" issues, etc. Also if something does happen developers don't have to struggle with verifying if the issue is only happening to some people in single player, or only multiplayer, or whatever. Also with being online only, MOST of the game is handled on their servers which keeps it out of the hands of people who would attempt to find ways to hack it up. Plus if they release offline singleplayer, due to the architecture of the game, they would need to point the game to pull files/mobs/everything else it currently does from your local machine instead.
What does that do? Just gives the files to hackers who would host their own "private" servers to allow connections to their junk instead of Blizzard.
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I think the sooner we realize the game is ONLY a multi-player game with people in multi-player instances, but just by themselves, the sooner we can get past all of this.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
I've seen you attack capitalism more than once (using adjectives such as "extremist"), and then you post the highlighted comment....and it all makes sense. As I stated in another thread - we now live in the Era of Entitlement, where nobody wants to work for anything anymore, and everybody feels entitled to everything immediately, if not before. You want all the options? Fine....but I would wager you would then be complaining about the fact those extra options cost an extra x amount of money.
I'll go a step further - the country you currently reside in....if they tell you that you have to conform to their rules, but you disagree with them, do you feel you're entitled to the option of not following them?
You are confusing me with people who have an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I paid $60.00 which means I am therefore entitled to certain things. As it stands I don't even have the option to play this game in offline mode which means that I am forced to play it on Blizzard's schedule, not mine.
To Tiths: Skyrim is a single player game. Diablo II was a single player game. I understand that D2 and D3 are different games, but D3 obviously has the potential to be a single player game but that option was not made available to us. Apples to oranges? I'm referring to two games; one that has a feature and one that does not. Your response is invalid.
I think the sooner we realize the game is ONLY a multi-player game with people in multi-player instances, but just by themselves, the sooner we can get past all of this.
Also, there's nothing innately 'wrong' in doing D3 the way Blizzard wants. They're a private company, and they're sellng a product. If you don't like their product, and don't wish to support their way of doing things, don't buy it. Simple. Also, it's a *luxury item*. It's a video game, so it's not hurting anyone at all.
If you wanted to cast your vote against the always-online, then you shouldn't have bought the game. You should have just waited for Torchlight II. However, you did buy the game, so you joined the other six million people in supporting it, no matter how much you protest it.
Having bought the game, you can protest how it works, but it's just whining, and doesn't really mean anything. Learn to vote with your wallet, because that's the only way companies hear you. I didn't have a problem with always-online, so I bought the game.
I trialed SWTOR, thought it was a complete POS, and did not buy the game. I didn't buy it and then whine that it was 'wrong' that the game had no LFD, and you could sit in fleet trying to make a group for hours. Therefore, I voted my displeasure in the only effective way I could.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
I've seen you attack capitalism more than once (using adjectives such as "extremist"), and then you post the highlighted comment....and it all makes sense. As I stated in another thread - we now live in the Era of Entitlement, where nobody wants to work for anything anymore, and everybody feels entitled to everything immediately, if not before. You want all the options? Fine....but I would wager you would then be complaining about the fact those extra options cost an extra x amount of money.
I'll go a step further - the country you currently reside in....if they tell you that you have to conform to their rules, but you disagree with them, do you feel you're entitled to the option of not following them?
You are confusing me with people who have an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I paid $60.00 which means I am therefore entitled to certain things. As it stands I don't even have the option to play this game in offline mode which means that I am forced to play it on Blizzard's schedule, not mine.
You're entitled to whine, I guess, and you're taking advantage of that. You're entitled to play the game, yes. But that's really all buying the game 'entitles' you to. Blizzard is NOT going to put out a single-player version for you. To do so would expose their server code for all to see, because it would have to be on local machines for single-player, and allow security issues ala D1/D2. I'd rather they kept it the way it is, thanks.
You are not entitled to a single-player mode just because you want it, and you knew that when you paid the 60.00.
Wow, you guys have been completely dominated by capitalistic culture. You are allowed to protest the status quo while still partaking in it. No wonder the government so easily holds people down. They could start taxing your oxygen intake and you guys would probably say, "oh, if you don't want to get taxed on breathing then just don't suck up all this precious air."
Ahahaha. I'm sure the working class and labor heroes of the past would applaud your bold, and brave stance against capitalism.
Oh wait, you're not fighting against capitalism - you're just complaining because you feel entitled because a product isn't being made explicitly to your ideals.
I'm no corporate schill, but I think it is clear that an always-online D3 is a better game for it, even if it makes it difficult for some people to log on.
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So what this means, if im from EU and i play on Amerikas server i wont play anytime soon =O?
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Um, you're the one who bent over. You didn't like the always-online *and bought the game anyway* evidently. I bought it knowingly and made the choice on my own.
So what's your excuse for giving Blizzard money for a game with a feature you say you hate? And yes, we knew months ahead of time that *single* player would be online, too, not just multiplayer.
Your extremist attitude is insulting to consumers everywhere: "THIS IS HOW IT IS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT." You also make it sound as though paying for a game somehow chains you to certain regulations. This is a fallacy; the fact that I paid for this game means that I should actually be entitled to more options, not restricted. Get your logic straight.
Oh hey look guys, a dead horse. Let's go beat it.
And beat it.
...and beat it...
some more...
keep beating it...
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You blew it, bought the product anyway, knowing it was that way, and now you want to whine about it. Have a nice day.
You paid for the game, you signed the EULA, you stole Fizzy Lifting Drink. You had the choice of voicing your outrage over the "always online" by simply not buying the game. However, you still purchased the game and feel the need to harp on others enjoying the game as sheep to their corporate overlords. If you really had any sort of fortitude to protest aspects of the game you knew were there months in advance you'd not buy the game. But you did and you play. Now who is more the sheep? The people who are fine and dandy with it and enjoy the game or you who is angry and bitter toward the "capitalist pigs" but still felt compelled to give them your money.
You do realize that this is how OTHER buisness take a share of the market. So why don't you do what they do and build your own game like diablo 3 and that you can play offline. *Gasp* Oh wait your too lazy to go to a store and get one. You knew this game was online months beforeyou bought it. So quit digging the horse up.
Keep in mind that extremist mindset also applies to you as well. Upset with the AH? "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THERE WOULD BE AN AH." Upset that Inferno is not properly balanced for melee. "YOU KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THAT INFERNO WAS VERY DIFFICULT." Do you see how that line of thinking doesn't work out so well?
I love Diablo III and it is a great game. But it is annoying as hell that I cannot play it right now. Or for the next two hours. Or when the servers go down. Or most of the first week. Or when my internet connection has issues. Or that some friends of mine are chained to Hell difficulty because simply lagging for ten seconds in Inferno can mean pure death.
So, let's get right to the point. WHY is single player not allowed? I proclaim it is because they want to push people towards the real money auction house. If someone can offer a valid reason beyond this I ask you to share it here. Keep in mind that Skyrim was ultra successful and it was a single player, offline game so any argument that cannot be applied to that game will be dismissed.
Skyrim is a completely different game with zero social element to it. Also you could hack and mod it to your heart's content. Congratulations, you just compared apples to orangutans.
I've seen you attack capitalism more than once (using adjectives such as "extremist"), and then you post the highlighted comment....and it all makes sense. As I stated in another thread - we now live in the Era of Entitlement, where nobody wants to work for anything anymore, and everybody feels entitled to everything immediately, if not before. You want all the options? Fine....but I would wager you would then be complaining about the fact those extra options cost an extra x amount of money.
I'll go a step further - the country you currently reside in....if they tell you that you have to conform to their rules, but you disagree with them, do you feel you're entitled to the option of not following them?
Your car analogy is based on the fallatious assumption that all available cars have that rule about the finger. It does not apply to video games, where not all video games are on-line only.
This is better than day time TV!!!!
Maybe it is for pushing people towards the RMAH, but keep in mind it could also be for simplicity.
Like updates, hotfixes, the ability to change mechanics/stats on items/monsters without requiring patches. (Due to files be on blizzards end.)
I for know one reason that I would have an online-only game : Piracy. I know it's not the main drive but you would be daft to believe that it isn't making them more money. It's not the best solutions for it, there are other ways to authenticate real users and such. (Such as a weekly one-time connection, things of that sort.)
Also making making sure everyone is on the same level/update at the same time is nice too, eliminates a lot of "are you up to date" issues, etc. Also if something does happen developers don't have to struggle with verifying if the issue is only happening to some people in single player, or only multiplayer, or whatever. Also with being online only, MOST of the game is handled on their servers which keeps it out of the hands of people who would attempt to find ways to hack it up. Plus if they release offline singleplayer, due to the architecture of the game, they would need to point the game to pull files/mobs/everything else it currently does from your local machine instead.
What does that do? Just gives the files to hackers who would host their own "private" servers to allow connections to their junk instead of Blizzard.
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I think the sooner we realize the game is ONLY a multi-player game with people in multi-player instances, but just by themselves, the sooner we can get past all of this.
You are confusing me with people who have an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I paid $60.00 which means I am therefore entitled to certain things. As it stands I don't even have the option to play this game in offline mode which means that I am forced to play it on Blizzard's schedule, not mine.
To Tiths: Skyrim is a single player game. Diablo II was a single player game. I understand that D2 and D3 are different games, but D3 obviously has the potential to be a single player game but that option was not made available to us. Apples to oranges? I'm referring to two games; one that has a feature and one that does not. Your response is invalid.
Also, there's nothing innately 'wrong' in doing D3 the way Blizzard wants. They're a private company, and they're sellng a product. If you don't like their product, and don't wish to support their way of doing things, don't buy it. Simple. Also, it's a *luxury item*. It's a video game, so it's not hurting anyone at all.
If you wanted to cast your vote against the always-online, then you shouldn't have bought the game. You should have just waited for Torchlight II. However, you did buy the game, so you joined the other six million people in supporting it, no matter how much you protest it.
Having bought the game, you can protest how it works, but it's just whining, and doesn't really mean anything. Learn to vote with your wallet, because that's the only way companies hear you. I didn't have a problem with always-online, so I bought the game.
I trialed SWTOR, thought it was a complete POS, and did not buy the game. I didn't buy it and then whine that it was 'wrong' that the game had no LFD, and you could sit in fleet trying to make a group for hours. Therefore, I voted my displeasure in the only effective way I could.
You're entitled to whine, I guess, and you're taking advantage of that. You're entitled to play the game, yes. But that's really all buying the game 'entitles' you to. Blizzard is NOT going to put out a single-player version for you. To do so would expose their server code for all to see, because it would have to be on local machines for single-player, and allow security issues ala D1/D2. I'd rather they kept it the way it is, thanks.
You are not entitled to a single-player mode just because you want it, and you knew that when you paid the 60.00.
It should be fine on US region, and will be fine on other regions once they've been patched.
Ahahaha. I'm sure the working class and labor heroes of the past would applaud your bold, and brave stance against capitalism.
Oh wait, you're not fighting against capitalism - you're just complaining because you feel entitled because a product isn't being made explicitly to your ideals.
I'm no corporate schill, but I think it is clear that an always-online D3 is a better game for it, even if it makes it difficult for some people to log on.
Tomorrow. Your region is maintenance and updating sometime in the next 24 hours.