Edit: Now that I think about it, no one on my FL have completed A2 on Inferno, which is pretty sad.
wow..That's pretty sad, most people on my FL are past act 2, and many are past act 3.. Myself, I'm on a4 on dh and a2 on monk, and a2 as monk seems relatively easy so far.
OT: nah, no quitting until 1.0.3! I'd rather beat the game pre-nerf than post-nerf. Challenge is fun, nerfing challenge isn't.
get 32k+ hp and some resists. Chains are usually pretty easy to dodge - anticipate them after every charge, don't blow invis unless you see the animation though.
You hit them with 3 clusters while your still invis
yes, 2.05 attack speed allows me to shoot 3 times in 1.5 sec of invis.
How low is your average ms man?
89 ms lowest, 200 avg. You can't imagine how often I die to stuff I can't dodge due to latency. Anyway, back to the topic - just hold down the button, and time your invis right after you shot your first cluster and you should be fine.
@ FFChronoS:
Okay, let's see here.
1) If I want a snare, it's either Caltrop(which eats discipline, meaning less SS), or Entangling shot, or Elemental arrow. I I drop bola shot for Entangling shot I loose a lot of dps, and I don't need that snare too much. The other ability which could go into that slot could be either pet, or Rain of Vengeance. Pet could be nice, but I'm not sure the increase of Cluster arrows due to Entangling shot Justice is Served rune + bat pet would make up for bola dps loss. Rain of Vengeance is fun, useful, but, again, 30 sec cd cc vs dps loss.
2) Exactly, I pointed that out. Despite it being not cost-effective, it provides burst. Compare it to Rapid Fire for a moment, which is the complete opposite. Rapid Fire drains hatred slowly, requires you to stand still to do damage. Cluster arrow burns your hatred fast, but allows you to do maximum damage while moving. The only other ability that can be compared is Strafe - you don't have to stop at all. Elemental arrow burns your hatred a lot slower, and it's 155 damage per shot + aoe. Bola shot does 182% damage single-target, 154% dmg aoe, but doesn't pierce, which means longer kiting(I don't kill mobs in the back rows). Which makes Bola more appealing to spam, rather than slowly burn through my hatred with Elemental. Going for Nether Tentacles Elemental arrow for dps would drop my cc capability - which is fear.
3) Kiting is not that much of a problem, to be honest. And my goal here is to play around with Cluster, so no-no.
Hey guys. This is a build I'm currently using, created it in act 1 inferno, cleared it, killed Butcher solo pre-enrage. Struggling with inferno act 2, because, well, I get one-shot by stuff http://us.battle.net...XVbR!YgT!ccZbbb
This one is focused on cluster arrow and bola nukes, with prep/ss(naturally) and some cc.
I'm using dual xbows, 580ish dps, and I've got about 1200 dex.
Skill and rune explanation:
1) Bola shot, Imminent Doom rune.
Basically, this is the most hurting hatred generator out there, as far as I see. 2 sec sure is a lot in this game, and it matters a lot vs weaker mobs, but isn't significant vs bosses,elites etc. Dual xbows allow to spam it real fast, meaning nice hatred generation. This is the main skill you wanna spam when low on hatred.
2) Cluster arrow, Loaded for Bear rune.
I wanted to check out cluster arrow, and this thing hurts hard. With dual xbows you can launch 3 of them in 1.5 seconds, and, with crit buff stacked, they all seem to crit(flight times etc allow the 3d one to crit as well, I guess), which gives a really nice opening burst, allowing you to kill off a bunch of mobs before you even engage. I'm talking about 50k+ crits each, not counting minibombs. Doesn't kill elite minions though. It's not the most efficient damage per hatred skill, it dumps hatred really fast, allowing you to move more and shoot less while doing significant damage.
3/4) Smokescreen/preparation. Not much to say here, I wanna live. Tried vault instead of ss, works well, but still not used to it.
5) Entangling shot, Heavy Burden rune.
That's my snare. Whenever I'm kiting mobs, elite or not, I aim for 100% uptime of this on the front 2-3 mobs. 4 second rune to entangle less, bola more.
6) Elemental arrow, Screaming Skull rune.
Some rares/elites got fast affix, some are fast by themselves.. And though nothing really saves from the latter, you can extend your kiting time and save your smokescreen by throwing in 2-3 of this when the monster's getting close. Nice if you can time it right when entangle ends, and entagle again right after fear ends. It's pretty cheap, too.
7) Steady aim.
Is there a point NOT to take this? Almost flat 20% damage, since generally you are able to stay away from mobs.
8) Grenadier.
Allows for a 3d Cluster arrow from full hatred without grabbing Vengeance, and basically increases the amount of your Cluster arrows by 25% (4 cluster arrows per 200 hatred without, 5 per 200 with). The bomb is fun too! I don't use grenade bonus though because I find grenades way too clunky. Tried it, didn't like it.
9) Sharpshooter.
Well, I just love this skill. I think it's better then Archery(with dual xbows it's 10% crit, which Sharpshooter beats in 4 seconds).
In general about other passives.. This build could use Archery with a 2h xbow, but it would result in hatred generation loss. Although it's argueable. But I love my bola shot stutterstepping, so I stick with high attack speed dual xbows. Cull the Weak could work nicely too, but I don't really see what I could swap out for it.
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wow..That's pretty sad, most people on my FL are past act 2, and many are past act 3.. Myself, I'm on a4 on dh and a2 on monk, and a2 as monk seems relatively easy so far.
OT: nah, no quitting until 1.0.3! I'd rather beat the game pre-nerf than post-nerf. Challenge is fun, nerfing challenge isn't.
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89 ms lowest, 200 avg. You can't imagine how often I die to stuff I can't dodge due to latency. Anyway, back to the topic - just hold down the button, and time your invis right after you shot your first cluster and you should be fine.
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Okay, let's see here.
1) If I want a snare, it's either Caltrop(which eats discipline, meaning less SS), or Entangling shot, or Elemental arrow. I I drop bola shot for Entangling shot I loose a lot of dps, and I don't need that snare too much. The other ability which could go into that slot could be either pet, or Rain of Vengeance. Pet could be nice, but I'm not sure the increase of Cluster arrows due to Entangling shot Justice is Served rune + bat pet would make up for bola dps loss. Rain of Vengeance is fun, useful, but, again, 30 sec cd cc vs dps loss.
2) Exactly, I pointed that out. Despite it being not cost-effective, it provides burst. Compare it to Rapid Fire for a moment, which is the complete opposite. Rapid Fire drains hatred slowly, requires you to stand still to do damage. Cluster arrow burns your hatred fast, but allows you to do maximum damage while moving. The only other ability that can be compared is Strafe - you don't have to stop at all. Elemental arrow burns your hatred a lot slower, and it's 155 damage per shot + aoe. Bola shot does 182% damage single-target, 154% dmg aoe, but doesn't pierce, which means longer kiting(I don't kill mobs in the back rows). Which makes Bola more appealing to spam, rather than slowly burn through my hatred with Elemental. Going for Nether Tentacles Elemental arrow for dps would drop my cc capability - which is fear.
3) Kiting is not that much of a problem, to be honest. And my goal here is to play around with Cluster, so no-no.
4) That's a nice advice, I'll consider it. Thanks
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http://us.battle.net...XVbR!YgT!ccZbbb
This one is focused on cluster arrow and bola nukes, with prep/ss(naturally) and some cc.
I'm using dual xbows, 580ish dps, and I've got about 1200 dex.
Skill and rune explanation:
1) Bola shot, Imminent Doom rune.
Basically, this is the most hurting hatred generator out there, as far as I see. 2 sec sure is a lot in this game, and it matters a lot vs weaker mobs, but isn't significant vs bosses,elites etc. Dual xbows allow to spam it real fast, meaning nice hatred generation. This is the main skill you wanna spam when low on hatred.
2) Cluster arrow, Loaded for Bear rune.
I wanted to check out cluster arrow, and this thing hurts hard. With dual xbows you can launch 3 of them in 1.5 seconds, and, with crit buff stacked, they all seem to crit(flight times etc allow the 3d one to crit as well, I guess), which gives a really nice opening burst, allowing you to kill off a bunch of mobs before you even engage. I'm talking about 50k+ crits each, not counting minibombs. Doesn't kill elite minions though. It's not the most efficient damage per hatred skill, it dumps hatred really fast, allowing you to move more and shoot less while doing significant damage.
3/4) Smokescreen/preparation. Not much to say here, I wanna live. Tried vault instead of ss, works well, but still not used to it.
5) Entangling shot, Heavy Burden rune.
That's my snare. Whenever I'm kiting mobs, elite or not, I aim for 100% uptime of this on the front 2-3 mobs. 4 second rune to entangle less, bola more.
6) Elemental arrow, Screaming Skull rune.
Some rares/elites got fast affix, some are fast by themselves.. And though nothing really saves from the latter, you can extend your kiting time and save your smokescreen by throwing in 2-3 of this when the monster's getting close. Nice if you can time it right when entangle ends, and entagle again right after fear ends. It's pretty cheap, too.
7) Steady aim.
Is there a point NOT to take this? Almost flat 20% damage, since generally you are able to stay away from mobs.
8) Grenadier.
Allows for a 3d Cluster arrow from full hatred without grabbing Vengeance, and basically increases the amount of your Cluster arrows by 25% (4 cluster arrows per 200 hatred without, 5 per 200 with). The bomb is fun too! I don't use grenade bonus though because I find grenades way too clunky. Tried it, didn't like it.
9) Sharpshooter.
Well, I just love this skill. I think it's better then Archery(with dual xbows it's 10% crit, which Sharpshooter beats in 4 seconds).
In general about other passives.. This build could use Archery with a 2h xbow, but it would result in hatred generation loss. Although it's argueable. But I love my bola shot stutterstepping, so I stick with high attack speed dual xbows. Cull the Weak could work nicely too, but I don't really see what I could swap out for it.
So, what do you think guys?