ya tried using dire bats a few times, even making my entire build/gear around it and it still was insufficient compared to other options available and was just annoying to use
Could you elaborate a little on that? Currently level 33 and I still cannot find anything that does damage that comes remotely close to what Dire Bats are doing.
Currently using firebomb, direbats, gargantuan, soulharvest, acidrain and tiki warriors.
Well in my experience dire bats have very thin hit radius. I find it nearly as hard to hit as poison darts. Just saying what it felt like up to level 16, I need to test more after work.
My guess is that they are simply good in different situations.
I cannot say I agree, while they do probably have a thinner hit radius, I don't have difficulties hitting and simply instagibbing every pack i come over by simply using soul harvest and dire bats.
The zombie charger is useless in comparison, even after the first glyph. The range on the bats is what makes them the better choice, the zombie has barely more aoe and the range is ridiculously short.
This also goes for the "cheap" left click abilities, dart and firebomb is way better than the others by a huge margin so far, the toads are unpredictable, short ranged and weird. The spiders do crappy damage and the spider queen is slow as hell with mediocre damage.
If it stays this way all the way to nightmare (wall of zombies seem rather weak, fetish army very long cd and probably not worth it until you can get vision quest passive)
firebomb or dart
dire bats
grasp of the dead or zombie dogs
soul harvest
mass confusion or terrify
gargantuan
Go with spiritual attunement + blood ritual + gruesome feast as passives and you can spam those spells pretty hard. Especially if you glyphed mana return on soul harvest.
as for arcane orb: isnt that a targeted aoe? Fire bats do damage to everything in their path from when they leave you to 40 yards in front of you.
I am currently level 21 on my WD, and compared to dire bats (fire bats glyphed), every other spell looks weak and pathetic.
All i do is:
- keep the gargantuan out (it never dies, so far)
- use soul harvest to get int stacks
- spam dire bats, if i oom (almost never) i use firebomb or darts as filler.
- i also have terrify and grasp of the dead on my bars if i ever need to CC, which also is almost never (gonna need these in later difficulties, i know)
The problem is, no other active nuke that costs a notable amount of mana can compare to the damage of the dire bats, and they do huge aoe as well...
Are other spells weaksauce or are dire bats simply OP at this level?
My first playthough when i am doing the super lore nerd thing, I am NOT playing the WD because i dont want fucking JAR JAR BINKS commenting on everything and ruining my immersion.
This is kind of true, I don't like the male WD voice either. (I don't know how the female sounds)
Definatively going WD at launch. Their armor looks cool, their skills are appealing to me and I think they're gonna be more popular than polls so far have shown.
I don't get the fascination of the DH though, the class was rather dull in the beta and the blizz preview was the worst of the pack.
All this is of course my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own.
If you hit about 8 it sounds like you recieve pretty much the same XP that any solo char does. Going through the beta in a normal phase gets you to 8 or 9, 10 if you clear everything and 7 if you super-rush through it. (Me and a friend did manage to get to SK at level 5 when really trying to skip everything we possibly could, we dinged 6 when he died)
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Could you elaborate a little on that? Currently level 33 and I still cannot find anything that does damage that comes remotely close to what Dire Bats are doing.
Currently using firebomb, direbats, gargantuan, soulharvest, acidrain and tiki warriors.
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I cannot say I agree, while they do probably have a thinner hit radius, I don't have difficulties hitting and simply instagibbing every pack i come over by simply using soul harvest and dire bats.
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This also goes for the "cheap" left click abilities, dart and firebomb is way better than the others by a huge margin so far, the toads are unpredictable, short ranged and weird. The spiders do crappy damage and the spider queen is slow as hell with mediocre damage.
If it stays this way all the way to nightmare (wall of zombies seem rather weak, fetish army very long cd and probably not worth it until you can get vision quest passive)
firebomb or dart
dire bats
grasp of the dead or zombie dogs
soul harvest
mass confusion or terrify
gargantuan
Go with spiritual attunement + blood ritual + gruesome feast as passives and you can spam those spells pretty hard. Especially if you glyphed mana return on soul harvest.
as for arcane orb: isnt that a targeted aoe? Fire bats do damage to everything in their path from when they leave you to 40 yards in front of you.
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All i do is:
- keep the gargantuan out (it never dies, so far)
- use soul harvest to get int stacks
- spam dire bats, if i oom (almost never) i use firebomb or darts as filler.
- i also have terrify and grasp of the dead on my bars if i ever need to CC, which also is almost never (gonna need these in later difficulties, i know)
The problem is, no other active nuke that costs a notable amount of mana can compare to the damage of the dire bats, and they do huge aoe as well...
Are other spells weaksauce or are dire bats simply OP at this level?
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This is kind of true, I don't like the male WD voice either. (I don't know how the female sounds)
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I don't get the fascination of the DH though, the class was rather dull in the beta and the blizz preview was the worst of the pack.
All this is of course my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own.
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You make them sound like some Afro american rapper.
Teehee.
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This, this, and more this. Thank you.
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Pve build that focuses on aoe dmg and survivability.
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Best of luck to all, but mostly myself!:D