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    I read PhrozenDragon's article and he did list a few of the major drawbacks but I find one very important one that he missed (I think) is Market Manipulation. What will start to happen, because all items can be bought locally from a single point (the AH) is that people with large amounts of money (companies in China seeking profit in eg.) will use their buying power to wipe a high demand item off the market by outbidding everyone regardless and then sell for ridiculous prices. They can do this with gold OR cash. This doesn't even have to happen to high end items. And eventually intentional over-farming (BOTS or people, labor is cheap in Asia, very cheap). I get that there will always be 3rd parties trying to make money from such a popular game, but the AH makes it more accesible, more abundant and easier for these 3rd party companies to RUIN gameplay for people seeking a great gaming experience. If you leave the market to d2-esque trading or some middle ground in stead of one giant market, it will reduce the manipulation of items being sold/bought and profiteering. Although if I were a blizzard shareholder I would certainly want this system in the game, it is a good profit model - thats why I doubt you will see too many free trades.

    I personally think, if Diablo is truly going for the gaming experience, they can do better than the RMAH.

    Surely if Blizzard is making money it will allow them to fund staff to monitor this kind of dodgy activity ingame.
    And all this blizzard can do better. Please enlighten me with your better idea?
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    Quote from Don_guillotine

    Quote from Jano_El_Bozo

    Quote from Don_guillotine
    It's not like in D2 where I could bot for months before I got banned. In D3, a ban will be quicker (it's easy to monitor suspicious behavior when measures are built-in to the game code).
    I know it's few posts ago, but those sentences made me scratch my head. Exactly on what do you base your statement that bans in Diablo 3 will be quicker? What measures are built-in to prevent Boting? I'm really interested in this info, any links would be helpful.

    There are no details on specifics for D3, so I'm merely talking about how stupidly it was handled in D2, and any person that is capable of breathing (i.e. isn't brain-dead) can figure out ways to make botting harder. Making it impossible is simply not... possible, but D2 botting was too easy.


    Bans in Diablo 2 followed the following schedule:


    1. The bot detection software (Warden) detected a bot. That is, an account running a lot of games and acting in a very bot-like fashion (clicking faster than a human can click, doing the same tasks repeatedly with no mistakes).
    2. Warden gathers enough evidence that the account is a bot, flags the account as a bot.
    3. These lists sit in Blizzard's hands for weeks, possibly months.
    4. Then the bots are banned in a mass-ban, and news headlines ("100,000 accounts attached to bots were banned!") are posted in battle.net front page.

    By simply removing the delay between flagging bots and actually banning them, this decreases the time a bot can run without a ban. Also, since we won't be able to make more than 1 account with one purchase of the game, a ban will be permanent -- unlike in D2 where getting your cd-keys banned required a lot of banned accounts and malicious activity. If your D2 account was banned, all you had to do was make a new one and start again.

    So by simple 101 methods bans will be faster and botting won't be as easy. Not to mention Blizzard can include built-in detectors to the game code (that will detect easy scripts). Elaborate bots won't be as easily caught -- the ones that mimic human activity by increasing delay times and making them slightly random, but such bots won't be distributed for free over the internet like D2 bots were since they will require a lot of hours to be put in programming the bot and keeping it one step ahead of the Warden.

    Because SC2 has people banned every day right? Right? o wait no they fail at that too with the rampand maphacks and drops hacks that ruin ladder in that game. Which was suppose to be an e-sport right?

    To your last post before you look at the inflation with way too much optimism. The fact of the matter is anyone and everyone would rather put anything up in the RMT AH for money. Thus Gold has already lost its initial value other than crafting and repairs and what other gold sinks they have. It will no longer be used as something to trade with for items.

    Not to mention that bots will be in the game, and the incentive to use bots is so high at this point you would almost be dumb not to use one, because its basically free money.

    This does not solve any issues at all. There will still be every problem that they are trying to prevent with the introduction of the RMT AH. If you and anyone else really thinks this will solve all problems with a RMT AH then this game will just be the start of a cycle of games that are modeled as play to win and are sucessful.

    I really hope you enjoy the future of games if this follows. Im done arguing, your points are always the same argument you bring nothing new to refute what I say, with every post talking about gold being real money, its a flawed argument and its been said by me and many others the holes in that argument.

    This is a video game, there are holes to everything and they will be found there will be giant inflation just like every other RPG out there and as inflation for gold rises the value a dollar has on the game grows. Its not rocket sciences its not even difficult to grasp.

    Enjoy the new game model of the future if this goes through. The Pay to Win model.


    What the bloody uproar about?
    Bashiok mention that they will come up with an idea to prevent previous player who had huge amounts of D2JSP money to get a head start on the game and also to prevent players from buying from third party websites.
    I was sceptical at what they could possibly do to stop this.
    Now that it been revealed, I think it the best possible solution.

    Can you seriously think of a better solution?
    AND PAY TO WIN IS NOT SOMETHING NEW. JOE BLOW JUST PURCHASED THE ABSOLUTE BEST ITEMS FROM WWW. AND YOU DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.
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