You would honestly be better off using a nice Odyn Son (+lightning damage), Sunkeeper (+ damage to elites) if you can get one.
Another note on stacking lightning gear: It has ZERO effect on the damage done by Thunderfury. I found one not too long ago, and did massive amounts of testing with gear / skill combos and found the following:
With all high Crit / Str / Crit damage gear, ZERO lightning skill % - Thunderfury crits were around 850k - 1. mil, with 1.4 - 1.6 mil using Wrath
With Lightning stacked gear (around 65% total at the cost of STR and Crit damage) - Crits were 600k - 750k, with 1.1 - 1.3 mil using Wrath
Using Strongarm bracers (+22% damage after knockbacks) and Seismic Slam (Shattered Ground rune) with normal high damage gear - 900k - 1.2 mill, with 1.6 - 1.8 mil using Wrath.
Essentially, the proc is based 100% off your actual weapon damage (Character sheet), so take passives that boost that up (Weapon master, Berserker Rage, Ruthless).
Also, Bloodshed rune on Battle rage WORKS with the crits, so getting super high TF crits will add a lot of AoE damage if you use that rune / skill combo.
I still plan on stacking lightning gear once I get my 4th IK piece (together as one rune for ancients will be the focus on build), but make sure you use pieces with the correct stats to boost all damage so your Thunderfury doesn't suffer.
Quote from WarBear» Can you please post the build using the skill calculator? I dislike when people post using their character because you never know if it's up to date when you open it later.
Wow... that's a sexy helm for the build! Socket would have been nice. You could always roll the Vitality in hopes of getting one when RoS comes out, but by that point we'll all be farming lvl 70 items
Rocking to be sure, Banshii is doing his best to reform now that they finally implemented clan support
I'll try and find some mumble server for both EU/US sections to come together once in a while.
Yeah I went to the D3U site, so I'll probably hit someone up in-game. I'm in a clan now with some WOW guildies, but might be taking a step back from that to focus on my Barb.
Thanks for the info on Weapon throw with Thunderfury! I see you have sexy Lightning SOJ in there too. I haven't found ANY items worth using that have lightning damage on them, but I still fly through Torment 2 & 3. I did a few T4 runs, but it was a little slow-going for farming.
Pretty much smoked Torment 3 farm runs! The new 4 Piece IK bonus turns Ancients in to a full-time pet, and with that rune, not only do they add to your lightning damage spec, they also absorb 50% of the damage you take! Mixing in 4 pieces of IK (Probably Helm, Gloves, Boots, Chest) with Thunderfury + Odyn Son, then fill in the rest with + Lightning pieces! I know what I'm planning for
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in game non of my tool tips say anything about turning over power ect into lightening
Frenzy (Smite Rune): Each hit has a chance to call down a bolt of lightning from above, stunning the enemy for 1.5 seconds.
Cleave (Broad Sweep): Increases damage to 210% weapon damage as Lightning.
Overpower (Killing Spree): Your Critical Hit Chance is increased by 8% for 5 seconds. Overpower's damage turns into Lightning.
Earthquake (Mountain's Call): Remove the Fury cost and reduce the cooldown to 50 seconds. Earthquakes damage turns into Lightning.
You can also see for any skill what type of damage it does (if any) by the color and notation at the top (just below the name). Skills all very clearly state right at the top what kind of damage they do.
I never said Frenzy made cleave faster, but I go back and forth all the time depending on what is near me, so I like to keep the speed refreshed before it falls off.
Example: I come upon a large group with a champion pack. I run in, Frenzy my way to full rage (much faster than cleaving), mixing in Overpower on cooldown. Upon reaching full rage I pop Earthquake (waiting until full rage is a MUST for earthquake), start Cleaving while making sure Frenzy is kept at 5 stacks, and as soon as there are less than 5 mobs, pretty much 100% Frenzy on the champions. The Lightning proc mixed with Overpowers will finish off any remaining non-elites pretty quickly.
I'm not saying this is the only skill combo to use, but I find it to be very good for both large packs of mobs AND single targets. I also played around with HotA for a bit last night and liked it, but decided I liked full rage better.
OP - why do you use Frenzy and Cleave? You either Frenzy or Cleave, you can't use them at the same time. I'd swap out Cleave for Rend or Revenge, both deal good AoE damage, Rend costs next to nothing, Revenge is free.
The whole point of this build is to stack as much Lightning as possible, while keeping max Rage. Revenge does have a lightning rune, but it blasts everyone away, and Rend does not have a lightning rune at all. On single targets, I use Frenzy 100%, but on groups, I cleave them down since it can hit everything at once. Also, when cleaving, I randomly throw in a Frenzy to make sure my speed buff stays up at 5 stacks. That way when I switch back to it, I don't have to re-stack the attack speed buff. The combination of Cleave, Overpower + Earthquake turns large groups into rubble almost instantly, and Frenzy allows me to sustain single target fights easily. I'll try to record a vid on T3 tonight to demonstrate.
I was going for the full rage 25% bonus, but I'm sure there are numerous other combos that would work well. Lots of gear to buff up lightning for barb!
Yeah I'm liking that Odyn Son... lets hope I can find one of those! I've seen numerous amulets and rings from Clansmen with elemental damage on them, but I have yet to see one myself. I imagine one could get lightning skill damage up very high stacking gear, and considering I already crush through Torment 3 with this spec, I'd love to see how it evolves with the right gearing.
Please feel free to link more items you've seen that would contribute to this build!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WhdkRj!dXe!YYZcYc
There are a ton of items out there that can add to your lightning skill damage, and with this build, despite the armory damage, it's more like 185k. The lightning proc from Fulminator is amazing, and hits all the time, especially when cleaving / Overpowering in a group. With this build, there are no rage spenders (aside from Battle Shout), so running Berserker Rage works very well. WIthout any item cooldown reduction, Earthquake is only 35 seconds and maintains your full rage.
Other items that would help this build (that I haven't been fortunate enough to get yet!):
And of course all the multitudes of items that can roll +Lightning Skill damage.
Another note on stacking lightning gear: It has ZERO effect on the damage done by Thunderfury. I found one not too long ago, and did massive amounts of testing with gear / skill combos and found the following:
With all high Crit / Str / Crit damage gear, ZERO lightning skill % - Thunderfury crits were around 850k - 1. mil, with 1.4 - 1.6 mil using Wrath
With Lightning stacked gear (around 65% total at the cost of STR and Crit damage) - Crits were 600k - 750k, with 1.1 - 1.3 mil using Wrath
Using Strongarm bracers (+22% damage after knockbacks) and Seismic Slam (Shattered Ground rune) with normal high damage gear - 900k - 1.2 mill, with 1.6 - 1.8 mil using Wrath.
Essentially, the proc is based 100% off your actual weapon damage (Character sheet), so take passives that boost that up (Weapon master, Berserker Rage, Ruthless).
Also, Bloodshed rune on Battle rage WORKS with the crits, so getting super high TF crits will add a lot of AoE damage if you use that rune / skill combo.
I still plan on stacking lightning gear once I get my 4th IK piece (together as one rune for ancients will be the focus on build), but make sure you use pieces with the correct stats to boost all damage so your Thunderfury doesn't suffer.
Fixed
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WhdTjR!SgX!YYZbcY
Pretty much smoked Torment 3 farm runs! The new 4 Piece IK bonus turns Ancients in to a full-time pet, and with that rune, not only do they add to your lightning damage spec, they also absorb 50% of the damage you take! Mixing in 4 pieces of IK (Probably Helm, Gloves, Boots, Chest) with Thunderfury + Odyn Son, then fill in the rest with + Lightning pieces! I know what I'm planning for
Cleave (Broad Sweep): Increases damage to 210% weapon damage as Lightning.
Overpower (Killing Spree): Your Critical Hit Chance is increased by 8% for 5 seconds. Overpower's damage turns into Lightning.
Earthquake (Mountain's Call): Remove the Fury cost and reduce the cooldown to 50 seconds. Earthquakes damage turns into Lightning.
You can also see for any skill what type of damage it does (if any) by the color and notation at the top (just below the name). Skills all very clearly state right at the top what kind of damage they do.
Example: I come upon a large group with a champion pack. I run in, Frenzy my way to full rage (much faster than cleaving), mixing in Overpower on cooldown. Upon reaching full rage I pop Earthquake (waiting until full rage is a MUST for earthquake), start Cleaving while making sure Frenzy is kept at 5 stacks, and as soon as there are less than 5 mobs, pretty much 100% Frenzy on the champions. The Lightning proc mixed with Overpowers will finish off any remaining non-elites pretty quickly.
I'm not saying this is the only skill combo to use, but I find it to be very good for both large packs of mobs AND single targets. I also played around with HotA for a bit last night and liked it, but decided I liked full rage better.
Please feel free to link more items you've seen that would contribute to this build!
There are a ton of items out there that can add to your lightning skill damage, and with this build, despite the armory damage, it's more like 185k. The lightning proc from Fulminator is amazing, and hits all the time, especially when cleaving / Overpowering in a group. With this build, there are no rage spenders (aside from Battle Shout), so running Berserker Rage works very well. WIthout any item cooldown reduction, Earthquake is only 35 seconds and maintains your full rage.
Other items that would help this build (that I haven't been fortunate enough to get yet!):
And of course all the multitudes of items that can roll +Lightning Skill damage.
**Edit: made the link a little more noticeable**