Funny you should say that about RoF and Disintegrate with Arcane Torrent Oneoftheorder because I've been talking about doing those spells for days. I plan on casting Arcane Torrent with Red rune to get the 120% damage, and then Disintegrate while the damage is increased using Red rune because its damage is higher than AT, and I will be casting them both often. RoF is higher than disintegrate but costs more mana, and only hits one target...
A bunch of people are going to be using these 3 spells along with Frost Nova, Diamond Skin, and Energy Armor/Storm Armor.
Video of Arcane Torrent: go to 3 minutes 37 seconds.
Yeah, if your not using Storm armor with gold rune and ap neutral spells (spells below the 14.5 ap a second regen) with astral presence, Then yes, you will tap out...
They can be great, but sometimes it just looks like you'll be casting these spells most of the time that is why I personally don't like to focus on it, unless your a Melee Wizard with energy armor and pinpoint barrier then spamming sig spells is your bread and butter and I think they would be a match for a meteor or even disintegrate wizard 1 on 1.
Actually it wouldn't be only casting disintegrate, it would be also casting Arcane torrent with crimson to get 120% extra damage then disintegrate, and or slow time with miasma, it wouldn't even come close to being just 1 spell cast over and over.....
RoF is greater damage but how long you can do it is the question, it isn't nearly as bad as meteor, a person going full throttle with RoF and frost nova to get 110% increased damage I think would kill someone doing Disintegrate and Arcane Torrent if they can be aggressive enough. If you liked to kite something and don't have a tank, then yes, meteor could be fun but it still is a clumsy spell to hit someone with. I think that most people who are wizards will probably be using disintegrate for the aforementioned reasons, some will be RoF and hell I might have it as well, but Disintegrate has a lot of pluses.
No I think I'll be able to cast Diamond skin with indigo rune then cast disintegrate and watch them all run..... would probably get teleport if I knew I was going to do that though.
WTH are you talking about ? The only thing people had a question that they asked was meteor and damage and I already said RoF does more damage, the ap and stopping at first target are the reason I wouldn't use it. Stop with the personal attacks, the numbers are right for the things I am trying to get.
OMG !!! Learn to READ I never ever said Disintegrate does more damage than RoF per point of mana, I said storm armor with gold rune and Disintegrate is ap neutral.
Meteor is still clumsy spell with a vast range between high and low damage, and using Frost nova crimson rune or Arcane torrent Crimson rune would get more damage with Meteor... You can do electrocute dance but I don't think people will (in Arena but in the game, sure...? I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in a game but on arena there are only 2 - 4 enemies? Would they stand close and let you do this? I thought they were supposed to be running from the Meteor...
I have my doubts about that builds "stamina" against someone using DIAT or DIFrostNova...
Hey I didn't say you should do it, just that it is an option if you feel so inclined, write your name in the snow with it I don't care. I'm sure there is time between fights..... but I'm talking about a game where your running around doing stuff, also if you cast another spell once, like say.... Meteor then go to disintegrate you can get your full mana back while the other person is running around dodging your Disintegrate, then calamity teleport on top of them and Impactful wave etc. etc.
Did you see the numbers ? If they are using Energy shield and your both hitting each other assuming neither one has diamond skin etc. they won't be able to cast it because they won't have mana, so my precious Storm armor is what a lot of people will be using and Ice armor doesn't work with non-melee hit with that good intentioned little Armor increase from Gold rune.
12.5 natural regen X 60 seconds = 750 total regen
120 regen a minute from Astral P = 120 total regen
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870 total.
870
_______ = Regen of 14.5 arcane power a second without familiar.
60 seconds
Disintegrate (crimson ) with Storm Armor Gold rune = 13 mana lost a second.
Total of 1.5 arcane power gained every second, while firing disintegrate.
That means you can do it for 4 minutes until shield goes down, not impressive in the real word but in a game that is awesome...
RoF (Crimson) with Storm Armor = 22 Arcane Power lost a second, welcome to the titanic If it is true that wizards only have 100 arcane power in the game, (120 with astral presence). That is 2 casts of meteor and if your rocking Energy Armor, it is gone or soon will be.
I wondered about the amount of Arcane power too, I was never planning on doing meteor but if arcane power really is stuck at 100 then I'm going on my main plan with Storm armor with gold rune so every spell I cast is neutral on ap and the rest you already know.
I don't know where I saw that regen was 12 ap a second but I have seen the same thing I think it was 12.5 when I saw it though too. I mentioned it when I threw Power Hungry over the cliff.
I love Rof and you know that, but disintegrate uses less mana, RoF with Storm armor is above the mana regen cut off.... and disintegrate hits more targets.... Even with RoF and storm armor it takes 22 ap, the most you can regen so far is 18.5... I don't know why he chose it, but Disintegrate with Crimson would always be my first choice, and it comes sooner in the game
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A bunch of people are going to be using these 3 spells along with Frost Nova, Diamond Skin, and Energy Armor/Storm Armor.
Video of Arcane Torrent: go to 3 minutes 37 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqEGfgZuLI8
They can be great, but sometimes it just looks like you'll be casting these spells most of the time that is why I personally don't like to focus on it, unless your a Melee Wizard with energy armor and pinpoint barrier then spamming sig spells is your bread and butter and I think they would be a match for a meteor or even disintegrate wizard 1 on 1.
Actually it wouldn't be only casting disintegrate, it would be also casting Arcane torrent with crimson to get 120% extra damage then disintegrate, and or slow time with miasma, it wouldn't even come close to being just 1 spell cast over and over.....
RoF is greater damage but how long you can do it is the question, it isn't nearly as bad as meteor, a person going full throttle with RoF and frost nova to get 110% increased damage I think would kill someone doing Disintegrate and Arcane Torrent if they can be aggressive enough. If you liked to kite something and don't have a tank, then yes, meteor could be fun but it still is a clumsy spell to hit someone with. I think that most people who are wizards will probably be using disintegrate for the aforementioned reasons, some will be RoF and hell I might have it as well, but Disintegrate has a lot of pluses.
OMG !!! Learn to READ I never ever said Disintegrate does more damage than RoF per point of mana, I said storm armor with gold rune and Disintegrate is ap neutral.
I have my doubts about that builds "stamina" against someone using DIAT or DIFrostNova...
Did you see the numbers ? If they are using Energy shield and your both hitting each other assuming neither one has diamond skin etc. they won't be able to cast it because they won't have mana, so my precious Storm armor is what a lot of people will be using and Ice armor doesn't work with non-melee hit with that good intentioned little Armor increase from Gold rune.
120 regen a minute from Astral P = 120 total regen
------------------------------------------------
870 total.
870
_______ = Regen of 14.5 arcane power a second without familiar.
60 seconds
Disintegrate (crimson ) with Storm Armor Gold rune = 13 mana lost a second.
Total of 1.5 arcane power gained every second, while firing disintegrate.
That means you can do it for 4 minutes until shield goes down, not impressive in the real word but in a game that is awesome...
RoF (Crimson) with Storm Armor = 22 Arcane Power lost a second, welcome to the titanic If it is true that wizards only have 100 arcane power in the game, (120 with astral presence). That is 2 casts of meteor and if your rocking Energy Armor, it is gone or soon will be.
I don't know where I saw that regen was 12 ap a second but I have seen the same thing I think it was 12.5 when I saw it though too. I mentioned it when I threw Power Hungry over the cliff.
I love Rof and you know that, but disintegrate uses less mana, RoF with Storm armor is above the mana regen cut off.... and disintegrate hits more targets.... Even with RoF and storm armor it takes 22 ap, the most you can regen so far is 18.5... I don't know why he chose it, but Disintegrate with Crimson would always be my first choice, and it comes sooner in the game