so if anyone looked and read through wudijo post on his 52 RG clear you will see he went for area dmg on shoulders and explaining that it is a dps gain over the sentry dmg affix but would prefer doping CDR for sentry dmg affix
TL;DR As you can see 15% sentry dmg on shoulders only does more dmg if its 2 or bellow targets
Maths on area dmg vs sentry dmg on shoulders
This was calculated as if Cluster arrow were to do 10 dmg
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 10 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 2251.85
2 procs = 2799.95
3 procs = 3348.05
4 procs = 3896.15
5 procs = 4444.25
6 procs = 4992.35
7 procs = 5540.45
8 procs = 6088.55
9 procs = 6636.65
10 procs = 7184.75
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 10 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 2204
2 procs = 2595.5
3 procs = 2987
4 procs = 3378.5
5 procs = 3770
6 procs = 4161.5
7 procs = 4553
8 procs = 4944.5
9 procs = 5336
10 procs = 5727.5
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 1095.475
2 procs = 1339.075
3 procs = 1582.675
4 procs = 1826.275
5 procs = 2069.875
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 1080.25
2 procs = 1254.25
3 procs = 1428.25
4 procs = 1602.25
5 procs = 1776.25
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 632.925
2 procs = 754.725
3 procs = 876.525
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 3 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 630.75
2 procs = 717.75
3 procs = 804.75
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 2 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 401.65
2 procs = 462.55
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 2 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 406
2 procs = 449.5
TL;DR As you can see 15% sentry dmg on shoulders only does more dmg if its 2 or bellow targets
@Bagstone my math on area dmg was if both mobs 2 or 3 proc area dmg not just 1 mob to proc area dmg amongst them, but yes if only 1 mob does proc area dmg the dmg is not really as noticeable but when u have like 5+ mobs clumped up and in some cases area dmg procs from all of them the amount of dmg you do goes in the low 100 billion dmg range
@Jamoose the reason you don't want sentry dmg on shoulders is because im looking it at a point of view of aoe dmg> single target because that means you will clear faster the trash and the elites. Now because your sentry cant proc area dmg and they also only deal about 40% of ur dmg buffing that 40% by a further 15% is next to nothing compared buffing the other 60%, this is because this 60% dmg can actually cause area dmg which scales really well.
So for instance you have 70% area dmg and say you hit for say around 700M cluster arrow and there are no other mobs around area dmg does nothing as we know but the second there is 2 mobs and your hitting those 2 mobs for 700M and area dmg procs from both mobs that 700M cast goes from a total of 1400M dmg to 2380M dmg. Now lets make it 3 mobs 700M cluster arrow and area dmg procs from the 3 mobs thats 2100M with out area dmg and with area dmg its 5040M.
So this is why area dmg is a very good stat compared to buffing that 40% dmg from sentry, in reality that 40% dmg from sentry isn't actualy 40% is actualy like 20%. but its too hard to explain to people because they don't want to listen or take into account the area dmg affix.
just a small tip its a higher DPS gain to get area dmg on shoulders as your casted Cluster arrow hits for about 1 billion compared to like 50M from the sentry so getting sentry dmg on the shoulders is a dps/dmg loss.
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Maths on area dmg vs sentry dmg on shoulders
This was calculated as if Cluster arrow were to do 10 dmg60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 10 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 2251.85
2 procs = 2799.95
3 procs = 3348.05
4 procs = 3896.15
5 procs = 4444.25
6 procs = 4992.35
7 procs = 5540.45
8 procs = 6088.55
9 procs = 6636.65
10 procs = 7184.75
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 10 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 2204
2 procs = 2595.5
3 procs = 2987
4 procs = 3378.5
5 procs = 3770
6 procs = 4161.5
7 procs = 4553
8 procs = 4944.5
9 procs = 5336
10 procs = 5727.5
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 1095.475
2 procs = 1339.075
3 procs = 1582.675
4 procs = 1826.275
5 procs = 2069.875
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 1080.25
2 procs = 1254.25
3 procs = 1428.25
4 procs = 1602.25
5 procs = 1776.25
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 5 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 632.925
2 procs = 754.725
3 procs = 876.525
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 3 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 630.75
2 procs = 717.75
3 procs = 804.75
60.9 area dmg (70%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 83.375 per target with Sentry skill scale of 15%
if 2 targets (87x(number of targets))+(83.375x(number of targets))+(60.9x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 401.65
2 procs = 462.55
43.5 area dmg (50%) if CA dmg is 87 with CA skill scale of 45%
total sentry dmg is 94.25 per target with Sentry skill scale of 30%
if 2 targets (87x(number of targets))+(94.25x(number of targets))+(43.5x(number of targets -1)x(number of procs))
1 proc = 406
2 procs = 449.5
TL;DR As you can see 15% sentry dmg on shoulders only does more dmg if its 2 or bellow targets
So for instance you have 70% area dmg and say you hit for say around 700M cluster arrow and there are no other mobs around area dmg does nothing as we know but the second there is 2 mobs and your hitting those 2 mobs for 700M and area dmg procs from both mobs that 700M cast goes from a total of 1400M dmg to 2380M dmg. Now lets make it 3 mobs 700M cluster arrow and area dmg procs from the 3 mobs thats 2100M with out area dmg and with area dmg its 5040M.
So this is why area dmg is a very good stat compared to buffing that 40% dmg from sentry, in reality that 40% dmg from sentry isn't actualy 40% is actualy like 20%. but its too hard to explain to people because they don't want to listen or take into account the area dmg affix.