So what do you propose, Ftero? We babysit everyone? Tell them how sorry we are for them?
I know a guy who has no parents... and he's truly depressed. To apoint that many of you never will be.
You have no idea what depression is. Everyone goes through being dumped or losing a loved one at some point. Few can say they lost both their parents and have nothing to hold on to.
I proposed that he PM me if he wanted to talk, not that we tell everyone feeling sad how sorry we are for them.
And again, my point is how can you say something like that? How do you know that I have no idea what depression is? If you knowing of someone that has gone through something horrible like that gives you the authority to tell people that their sadness is insignificant, then all I can say is I am not entirely convinced. People get upset over petty things - I wholeheartedly agree. But all I can do, in a loving way, is caution you in presuming the extent of painful trials people have gone through or witnessed.
I proposed that he PM me if he wanted to talk, not that we tell everyone feeling sad how sorry we are for them.
And again, my point is how can you say something like that? How do you know that I have no idea what depression is? If you knowing of someone that has gone through something horrible like that gives you the authority to tell people that their idea of depression is false, then all I can say is I am not entirely convinced.
because theres a medical definition of depression. and hes not showing symptoms.
not to mention, if its girl problems, he'll get over it in a kip
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
How do you know that I have no idea what depression is?
Because you claim to have had it in grade 7, you claim that it ended 3 years later (at which point a normal depression would get to a much worse state without professional help) and you're responding to a guy who himself said he's using the word depression idiomatically.
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But all I can do, in a loving way, is caution you in presuming the extent of painful trials people have gone through or witnessed.
I presumed nothing, merely analyzed what I was given.
because theres a medical definition of depression. and hes not showing symptoms.
not to mention, if its girl problems, he'll get over it in a kip
Yes, I edited my post right before you posted this.
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Because you claim to have had it in grade 7, you claim that it ended 3 years later (at which point a normal depression would get to a much worse state without professional help) and you're responding to a guy who himself said he's using the word depression idiomatically.I presumed nothing, merely analyzed what I was given.
How do you know I did not receive help?
I am not arguing that he is clinically depressed. All I am saying is be careful what you presume about others and their experiences.
And I see you said you did not presume anything, but analyzed. All I will say is I have friends I have known for years, that I analyzed plenty of times, that ended up having very dark pasts. Do you get what I am saying? I am not trying to win some argument. I am just saying it might be helpful to be a bit more careful. You do not have to receive my advice - that is fine.
I am not arguing that he is clinically depressed. All I am saying is be careful what you presume about others and their experiences.
ya i get you, hes obviously upset, maybe for the wrong reasons. but he said he was depressed and suicidal. never good. lol. hes joking though, duhhhh!!!
seriously dgk, talk to her, say hi, then say something about how hard school is. then say something about a teacher you dont like, make a cheeky joke, then piss off. edit: o.O omg ftero youve committed the infamous double post!!! fix it before the mods discover! quickly! use bombs wisely!
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
So are you sitting on medication now?And I am saying I did not presume, merely analyzed the following:
no skateboard
no xbox
no gf
dumped by gf
considers himself handsome
Gotta go with Equinox, seems like he's just being a "wuss" about not getting what he THINKS he deserves.
I think you guys are simply missing my point. I am not trying to judge whether his sadness is justifiable or not. I am saying that you do not know what people have gone through, the dark scars they may carry. So it is, in my opinion, hasty to say you know they have not experienced true pain before.
That is it! Nothing more! No argument, just friendly advice.
Nooooooooooo!!!! the mods got you!!!! another one lost to the streets....ftero...why?
thats true. though, many people try not to expose their pain to others. but if missing his xbox gets him this sad then thats saying something.
achoo. pollen sucks
Yes, you are right. I always thought it would be interesting if you could look at someone and know what they have gone through. I think it would be scarier than most of us would think at first, you know?
And yes, missing the Xbox would probably not be the most painful thing you would find out about most people. :rolleyes: I would be happy if it were, because that would mean they have had a fortunate set of life circumstances.
Honestly im really depressed right now and have no where to turn. Me and my girlfriend broke up after I got my hair cut coincidently
Normally you would think, "what? all he did was get a haircut"
But its differant due to the fact that she was a girl into the scene thing so i suppose hair plays a major role in who they date.
So now I have short hair which is making me really sad due to the fact I no longer look like pete wentz (I was always complemented on my hair)
I have no girlfriend
I have no xbox
I have no skateboard
and I have no diablo
and I really like another girl in school but
1. I don't know whether she likes me back
2. I don't know how to get her number
3. The school year is almost over which provides me with limited time to get her attention.
Should I add her on myspace? How do I talk to her?
First of all... this isn't exactly the best site to help you recovery. Second of all, that's a really serious thing to write about when people on this forum will really care. I hope that you find what you need, but here's some advice.
From what I gather you are in highschool. Also you have listed 4 things that seem to be prioritized by somebody who really hasn't experienced anything outside of that "scene." This is honestly a shame, and of course it's difficult to understand things outside of your realm. The real thing, though, is to understand that the things that you have listed are not the end-all-be-all of the world. Hair grows back and life moves on.
I'll give you some advice with a list of things to consider.
1) The girlfriend
If the girl you were with was with you only because of your style then you were with a person that was not worth your time. She doesn't notice you for who you are and doesn't value the niceties of life such as character/personality, your ambitions, your emotions, your life. These are all things you need to feel about the other person before you can really make something work. Highschool girls aren't known for their ability to percieve beyond the material world, so it is likely that you will not find what you're looking for in highschool. There is a huge world beyond it and it's worth living to see it.
2)The XboX
I don't want to make you sound like a fool, but why are you sad that you don't have this? Is it for the games? The relationships you're missing out on by not having this avenue for more P2P experience? There are a million other ways to keep in touch with people and there are plenty of games out there that don't require this console. However, if this is really getting you down then I'd consider getting a job. I have worked since I was 15. Some people are against it, too lazy, etc. However, there are a lot of freedoms that come with it. Being able to drop bills whenever you want because YOU have earned it is a great feeling. Always make sure that you're doing what it takes to get the things you want. Pull out all the stops.
3)The Skateboard
This can be looked at as the same way as the XboX.
4)No Diablo
Which Diablo? One, Two or Three? Because we are all dying to get our hands on that gem (Diablo III that is). But if you are lacking the other titles then I'd recommend that you fork up 5 dollars and buy 2 CD-keys from a site selling keys. Make a Battle.net account, type in the keys, download the clients and have your fun.
5)The Girl at School
Well, the biggest thing is understanding this girl before you make a move. Here are some things yo consider:
What are you looking for in a girl and does this female have these qualities?
If you don't know, then what are the reasons you want a girlfriend to begin with.
Are your reasons for wanting a girlfriend justifiable and will this girl solve your depression.
If this girl does not provide what you thought, do you have the ability to call a spade a spade and stop things before she gets hurt
Do you have what it takes to treat this girl equally.
These are just a few things, but it is important to truly understand your motives. If you are 100% sure that you are doing things outside of selfish desire then you must think about what you can do to show this girl that you're worthy of friendship before being worthy to date. Dating is a great thing, and perhaps that can be used to forge freindships as well. However, I have always thought a good way to get a person's attention is by inviting them to group activities personally. This way you can spend time getting to know the girl without putting pressure on them by making it 1 on 1 without any prior interaction between you two.
There are many other things to consider, but I hope this helps a little. If you need any more advice feel free to PM. Just make sure you're not putting anybody, including yourself, in a path of destruction.
[EDIT] Don't let these things get to you. Keep your head above the water and really, truly, put yourself in a position that makes you self-reliant. There is nothing worse to be co-dependent on things you don't have. Live life to the fullest with what you have. On your way pick up the things you want and keep going.
Honestly im really depressed right now and have no where to turn. Me and my girlfriend broke up after I got my hair cut coincidently
Normally you would think, "what? all he did was get a haircut"
But its differant due to the fact that she was a girl into the scene thing so i suppose hair plays a major role in who they date.
So now I have short hair which is making me really sad due to the fact I no longer look like pete wentz (I was always complemented on my hair)
I have no girlfriend
I have no xbox
I have no skateboard
and I have no diablo
and I really like another girl in school but
1. I don't know whether she likes me back
2. I don't know how to get her number
3. The school year is almost over which provides me with limited time to get her attention.
Should I add her on myspace? How do I talk to her?
hahahah
You could stop being a shallow oversheltered dramatic whiney spoiled selfcentered emo.
If you don't like the situation why don't you go fix your problems? Complaining gets nothing done, only doing does. Negative people are the scum of the earth, you should focus on the positive.
I know this will sound hard. But you need to hear it.
Quit being such a pussy.
Seriously, man. Life is not as tough as a lot of people make it out to be. I used to get all worked up over all sorts of things. Once I figured out it's much better just to chill out, have a straight head on your shoulders, and to think things out - I found things to be much more enjoyable and easier to cope with.
And also, you really shouldn't be getting so bent out of shape about women. Think about how many women there are in this great world. There are "millions, and millions (of Rock's fans)" of women out there.
In fact, I'd say you need to get a really selfish outlook on things. Start thinking you're better than other people. I know that sounds like satire, but it's not. Having some confidence about yourself goes a long way. It helps a lot when it comes to women to, because you need to look at it as them being the ones that are missing out. Thinking of them being a bitch (not the slang term, but the actual derogatory term for an unpleasant woman/conceited, etc) helps too, especially in the situation you're describing.
So, in review. Man up, quit being a pussy, get some swagger about yourself, go watch some Beavis and Butthead, and chill the fuck out. Things will be aight. Promise.
Actually, above all else: Chill the fuck out.
And if you still can't chill ... watch this video.
Just don't roll into a superiority complex with that one, waaaaaaaaaay too many people fall into that trap. Feeling better about yourself is good, but unreasonable arrogance isn't the best quality to have.
Instead of thinking you're better than other people, start being better at something than most of them, or find something in you that's already better.
I'd say find something in yourself you didn't know you could do or learn something new. Something you can be proud of. Rather than trying to best others, try to better yourself.
Just don't roll into a superiority complex with that one, waaaaaaaaaay too many people fall into that trap. Feeling better about yourself is good, but unreasonable arrogance isn't the best quality to have.
Instead of thinking you're better than other people, start being better at something than most of them, or find something in you that's already better.
^ What she said. ^
There will always be people better than you ... but, I think think generally speaking, there's always at least something you can do better than other people. But have a "quiet" arrogance about yourself. Don't run your mouth to people, and verbally talk down to people and what-not. There's no sense for that, and there's no sense in being a dick. But in your head you have to think highly of yourself.
I think it's easier to me, because a lot of people around here are fucking idiots.
I'm afraid idiots is the kind of currency we have too much of on this planet.
Indeed.
Imagine being in West Virginia, where once you get outside of urban cities you have a bunch of backwoods rednecks who have more ignorant beliefs then most peolpe did forty years ago.
Everyone's nice and cool in the cities, but once you get out of them ... it's like a different world. Nice people, most of the time, but damn ignorant.
And there's a lot of people I know that just jump to conclusions and go off what they hear, instead of thinking things out like a sensible human being. I mean, I know everyone jumps off to things sometimes, but you gotta admit when you're wrong and a lot of people don't lol.
I proposed that he PM me if he wanted to talk, not that we tell everyone feeling sad how sorry we are for them.
And again, my point is how can you say something like that? How do you know that I have no idea what depression is? If you knowing of someone that has gone through something horrible like that gives you the authority to tell people that their sadness is insignificant, then all I can say is I am not entirely convinced. People get upset over petty things - I wholeheartedly agree. But all I can do, in a loving way, is caution you in presuming the extent of painful trials people have gone through or witnessed.
not to mention, if its girl problems, he'll get over it in a kip
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Yes, I edited my post right before you posted this.
How do you know I did not receive help?
I am not arguing that he is clinically depressed. All I am saying is be careful what you presume about others and their experiences.
And I see you said you did not presume anything, but analyzed. All I will say is I have friends I have known for years, that I analyzed plenty of times, that ended up having very dark pasts. Do you get what I am saying? I am not trying to win some argument. I am just saying it might be helpful to be a bit more careful. You do not have to receive my advice - that is fine.
no skateboard
no xbox
no gf
dumped by gf
considers himself handsome
seriously dgk, talk to her, say hi, then say something about how hard school is. then say something about a teacher you dont like, make a cheeky joke, then piss off.
edit: o.O omg ftero youve committed the infamous double post!!! fix it before the mods discover! quickly! use bombs wisely!
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Gotta go with Equinox, seems like he's just being a "wuss" about not getting what he THINKS he deserves.
If the girl says no, discard, she's not for you. Try not to get obsessed like I did.
If the girl says yes, good.
That is it! Nothing more! No argument, just friendly advice.
thats true. though, many people try not to expose their pain to others. but if missing his xbox gets him this sad then thats saying something.
achoo. pollen sucks
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Yes, you are right. I always thought it would be interesting if you could look at someone and know what they have gone through. I think it would be scarier than most of us would think at first, you know?
And yes, missing the Xbox would probably not be the most painful thing you would find out about most people. :rolleyes: I would be happy if it were, because that would mean they have had a fortunate set of life circumstances.
First of all... this isn't exactly the best site to help you recovery. Second of all, that's a really serious thing to write about when people on this forum will really care. I hope that you find what you need, but here's some advice.
From what I gather you are in highschool. Also you have listed 4 things that seem to be prioritized by somebody who really hasn't experienced anything outside of that "scene." This is honestly a shame, and of course it's difficult to understand things outside of your realm. The real thing, though, is to understand that the things that you have listed are not the end-all-be-all of the world. Hair grows back and life moves on.
I'll give you some advice with a list of things to consider.
1) The girlfriend
If the girl you were with was with you only because of your style then you were with a person that was not worth your time. She doesn't notice you for who you are and doesn't value the niceties of life such as character/personality, your ambitions, your emotions, your life. These are all things you need to feel about the other person before you can really make something work. Highschool girls aren't known for their ability to percieve beyond the material world, so it is likely that you will not find what you're looking for in highschool. There is a huge world beyond it and it's worth living to see it.
2)The XboX
I don't want to make you sound like a fool, but why are you sad that you don't have this? Is it for the games? The relationships you're missing out on by not having this avenue for more P2P experience? There are a million other ways to keep in touch with people and there are plenty of games out there that don't require this console. However, if this is really getting you down then I'd consider getting a job. I have worked since I was 15. Some people are against it, too lazy, etc. However, there are a lot of freedoms that come with it. Being able to drop bills whenever you want because YOU have earned it is a great feeling. Always make sure that you're doing what it takes to get the things you want. Pull out all the stops.
3)The Skateboard
This can be looked at as the same way as the XboX.
4)No Diablo
Which Diablo? One, Two or Three? Because we are all dying to get our hands on that gem (Diablo III that is). But if you are lacking the other titles then I'd recommend that you fork up 5 dollars and buy 2 CD-keys from a site selling keys. Make a Battle.net account, type in the keys, download the clients and have your fun.
5)The Girl at School
Well, the biggest thing is understanding this girl before you make a move. Here are some things yo consider:
There are many other things to consider, but I hope this helps a little. If you need any more advice feel free to PM. Just make sure you're not putting anybody, including yourself, in a path of destruction.
[EDIT] Don't let these things get to you. Keep your head above the water and really, truly, put yourself in a position that makes you self-reliant. There is nothing worse to be co-dependent on things you don't have. Live life to the fullest with what you have. On your way pick up the things you want and keep going.
hahahah
You could stop being a shallow oversheltered dramatic whiney spoiled selfcentered emo.
If you don't like the situation why don't you go fix your problems? Complaining gets nothing done, only doing does. Negative people are the scum of the earth, you should focus on the positive.
Quit being such a pussy.
Seriously, man. Life is not as tough as a lot of people make it out to be. I used to get all worked up over all sorts of things. Once I figured out it's much better just to chill out, have a straight head on your shoulders, and to think things out - I found things to be much more enjoyable and easier to cope with.
And also, you really shouldn't be getting so bent out of shape about women. Think about how many women there are in this great world. There are "millions, and millions (of Rock's fans)" of women out there.
In fact, I'd say you need to get a really selfish outlook on things. Start thinking you're better than other people. I know that sounds like satire, but it's not. Having some confidence about yourself goes a long way. It helps a lot when it comes to women to, because you need to look at it as them being the ones that are missing out. Thinking of them being a bitch (not the slang term, but the actual derogatory term for an unpleasant woman/conceited, etc) helps too, especially in the situation you're describing.
So, in review. Man up, quit being a pussy, get some swagger about yourself, go watch some Beavis and Butthead, and chill the fuck out. Things will be aight. Promise.
Actually, above all else: Chill the fuck out.
And if you still can't chill ... watch this video.
CyberPunk RP Nexus
Instead of thinking you're better than other people, start being better at something than most of them, or find something in you that's already better.
^ What she said. ^
There will always be people better than you ... but, I think think generally speaking, there's always at least something you can do better than other people. But have a "quiet" arrogance about yourself. Don't run your mouth to people, and verbally talk down to people and what-not. There's no sense for that, and there's no sense in being a dick. But in your head you have to think highly of yourself.
I think it's easier to me, because a lot of people around here are fucking idiots.
CyberPunk RP Nexus
Indeed.
Imagine being in West Virginia, where once you get outside of urban cities you have a bunch of backwoods rednecks who have more ignorant beliefs then most peolpe did forty years ago.
Everyone's nice and cool in the cities, but once you get out of them ... it's like a different world. Nice people, most of the time, but damn ignorant.
And there's a lot of people I know that just jump to conclusions and go off what they hear, instead of thinking things out like a sensible human being. I mean, I know everyone jumps off to things sometimes, but you gotta admit when you're wrong and a lot of people don't lol.
CyberPunk RP Nexus