Hardcorepoore is a bully (this is not flame, this is a fact that he said himself). Bully in life, bully in games. Fair loot drops do not allow him to steal stuff from other people and laugh at them. Of course he's against it.
People who like fairness in games are not going to be against this system. For the most part, I wouldn't mind it if players weren't such jackasses. Ranged classes are disadvantaged because they are far from the boss, then you have item grabbers, then you have people who stop attacking the boss and start trying to pick up loot - people are just plain greedy.
Yes, in general, it increases inventory space, as the size of the inventory grid usually allows for a considerable amount of items (and the grid size can be further expanded through bags, a feature present in Diablo III and in other games, such as WoW and Guild Wars), which isn't possible in Diablo II, as one needs to arrange the items in order to save space and hold the biggest possible amount of objects in the inventory.
Plus, with item-stacking (confirmed to be in Diablo III, IIRC), you can save even more space and be able to hold more items.
For example, my typical inventory setup in Diablo II:
Tome of Town Portal, Town of Identify, a stack of 12 keys, and a few chams. I still have many space left, but as soon as I pick up a Splint Mail, a Composite Bow and a Brandistock, I basically have no space left and have to portal back to town to sell stuff.
Imagine a Diablo III inventory, with a 4x4 grid, for example:
I have a stack of Town Portal scrolls, a stack of Identify scrolls, a stack of keys. Since the inventory has 16 slots, I still have 13 slots left. Since the items occupy only one slot, I have space for 13 different chest armors, 13 staves, 13 huge axes, 13 of anything really. And with additional bags, the inventory size increases even more, and then my town portal rate decreases from "every 2-3 minutes" to "every 15+ minutes".
That is why a "1-item-per-slot" inventory system is better. It's improved, more useful, practical and less frustrating than the "inventory tetris" system.
Brilliant, you thought of everything. Now what if you find a couple rings, belts, boots, helms, and gloves? .The grid system stores more. If return value on items is changed to rarity level rather than "Axe/Armor sell for more because we say so" then grids will work wonders. The only reason you stored all those axes and armors is because in D2 they sold for the most money, which isn't going to be the case in D3. This discussion has been going on at the battle net forums. Basically every single argument against grid-based inventory was thoroughly analyzed and "debunked".
there was nothing wrong the the old FFA drop system.... ive beaten out item grabbers(pickit) on baal bots all the time. to me it seems like diablo is an everyman for themselves type of game and i have a feeling that, with all these changes d3 is going to suck.
If this loot system is the worst thing about D3, every household in the world will own it.
Cheers,
SmashBoy (can't understand why people don't like systems that promote fairness)
wanna know why i want FFA? b/c the feel of heartbreak when you first start playing and you miss that shako, then eventually you work harder and harder and finally you get that satisfaction of grabbing the HOZ off some jerkoff that was being a real dick to you.
with this stupid ass system im just going to be lollygaging up to items not showing any enthuasim at all. diablo is a dog eat dog world, and they are just turning it into a vaginafest
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DIABLO = DEVIL its not supposed to be a nice game autostats are rediclous lack of pots is not welcome if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
You have to turn everything into a dog-eating world, don't you? Why don't you join the Marines or something. Let normal people play the game like it's a game. If I really want to test my skill in clicking, there's FPS for that.
wanna know why i want FFA? b/c the feel of heartbreak when you first start playing and you miss that shako, then eventually you work harder and harder and finally you get that satisfaction of grabbing the HOZ off some jerkoff that was being a real dick to you.
with this stupid ass system im just going to be lollygaging up to items not showing any enthuasim at all. diablo is a dog eat dog world, and they are just turning it into a vaginafest
:rolleyes:
You want FFA so you can use item grabber.
Saying you're not going to experience heartbreak from getting the item you want is just not true.
If it drops for someone else and they want to keep it/sell it, you won't get it.
Vaginafest? Sign me up. Much rather be there than dickfest.
why do you not want to be the best at something? i didnt turn d2 into the cuntfest that it is, but thats what it is. and you know what ive learned to love it, im sorry but if you cant take the fast paced economy or gamplay go singleplayer or try something else
ask anyone ive played with, the only hack that i use once in a while is stings so i can mf 1000000x faster. like ive said before, i beat out pickits (stop calling it item grabbers).
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DIABLO = DEVIL its not supposed to be a nice game autostats are rediclous lack of pots is not welcome if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
why do you not want to be the best at something? i didnt turn d2 into the cuntfest that it is, but thats what it is. and you know what ive learned to love it, im sorry but if you cant take the fast paced economy or gamplay go singleplayer or try something else
It's a GAME... this isn't competitive sports or something. If you feel THAT much of a need to feel superior or "better" at something, try a competition based game. Diablo isn't that. It's a hack and slash, and is now being geared toward more of a cooperative play.
- be genetically proscribed for that something;
- do that something your whole life and spend all your time on it.
I dunno, I rather be universally average than be the best at... what are we discussing here... oh, picking up items in a 10 year old video game which I am not even a fan of. :confused:
You can't be good without wasting a lot of time. And wasting time is just dumb.
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and you know what ive learned to love it
Then you don't need D3. The only reason any person may want D3 (not D2 exp) is if they are severely unhappy with DII. You seem to be perfectly fine with this particular aspect of DII... go play DII.
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im sorry but if you cant take the fast paced economy or gamplay go singleplayer or try something else
Pfft. It's like telling en engineer to not invent the farm equipment but make him keep using old outdated farm equipment because that's what the cool old badass farmers are used to and when they see a piece of equipment that can replace them they get scaaaaaaaared.
why do you not want to be the best at something? i didnt turn d2 into the cuntfest that it is, but thats what it is. and you know what ive learned to love it, im sorry but if you cant take the fast paced economy or gamplay go singleplayer or try something else
ask anyone ive played with, the only hack that i use once in a while is stings so i can mf 1000000x faster. like ive said before, i beat out pickits (stop calling it item grabbers).
Sounds like the best solution for everyone (including you) is for you to stick with Diablo II.
Cheers,
SmashBoy (welcomes change and improvement)
People who like fairness in games are not going to be against this system. For the most part, I wouldn't mind it if players weren't such jackasses. Ranged classes are disadvantaged because they are far from the boss, then you have item grabbers, then you have people who stop attacking the boss and start trying to pick up loot - people are just plain greedy.
Brilliant, you thought of everything. Now what if you find a couple rings, belts, boots, helms, and gloves? .The grid system stores more. If return value on items is changed to rarity level rather than "Axe/Armor sell for more because we say so" then grids will work wonders. The only reason you stored all those axes and armors is because in D2 they sold for the most money, which isn't going to be the case in D3. This discussion has been going on at the battle net forums. Basically every single argument against grid-based inventory was thoroughly analyzed and "debunked".
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
Gold shouldn't be useless that was a broken economic mechanic in D2.
If you like to take people's items, stick to D2.
If this loot system is the worst thing about D3, every household in the world will own it.
Cheers,
SmashBoy (can't understand why people don't like systems that promote fairness)
Like if my partners are killing everything before me, will i see something drop or you only get drops from the stuff you kill ??
Has there been confirmation that MF will even exist in D3?
Cheers,
SmashBoy (dreading the MF monster's return)
with this stupid ass system im just going to be lollygaging up to items not showing any enthuasim at all. diablo is a dog eat dog world, and they are just turning it into a vaginafest
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
:rolleyes:
You want FFA so you can use item grabber.
Saying you're not going to experience heartbreak from getting the item you want is just not true.
If it drops for someone else and they want to keep it/sell it, you won't get it.
Vaginafest? Sign me up. Much rather be there than dickfest.
ask anyone ive played with, the only hack that i use once in a while is stings so i can mf 1000000x faster. like ive said before, i beat out pickits (stop calling it item grabbers).
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
It's a GAME... this isn't competitive sports or something. If you feel THAT much of a need to feel superior or "better" at something, try a competition based game. Diablo isn't that. It's a hack and slash, and is now being geared toward more of a cooperative play.
why do you play if you dont want to be the best?
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
What the hell game have you been playing? The game is packaged as first and foremost a hack n slash adventure genre, not a online PvP title.
The PvP is something to do once you're bored with the initial game.
The point of the game is to play through it and complete the storyline, everything else is a added benefit.
- be genetically proscribed for that something;
- do that something your whole life and spend all your time on it.
I dunno, I rather be universally average than be the best at... what are we discussing here... oh, picking up items in a 10 year old video game which I am not even a fan of. :confused:
You can't be good without wasting a lot of time. And wasting time is just dumb.
Then you don't need D3. The only reason any person may want D3 (not D2 exp) is if they are severely unhappy with DII. You seem to be perfectly fine with this particular aspect of DII... go play DII.
Pfft. It's like telling en engineer to not invent the farm equipment but make him keep using old outdated farm equipment because that's what the cool old badass farmers are used to and when they see a piece of equipment that can replace them they get scaaaaaaaared.
equinox you contradicting yourself, first your telling me that i should stay with something old. then saying staying with old things is bad...
if you want to stay avg, then you will do that the rest of your life. not only in games but in everything
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
Sounds like the best solution for everyone (including you) is for you to stick with Diablo II.
Cheers,
SmashBoy (welcomes change and improvement)
I'm not arguing that, but that's the reason the game is made. If it wasn't then they'd just cut right to the PvP and skip all the adventuring.
The irony here is that he's exhibiting the most classic MMO/WOW attitude.