Some information has been posted regarding the culture of PvP in Diablo, with a small reminder that PvP is still coming.
Originally Posted by Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
(While this is not true for everybody, we totally acknowledge that a lot of people feel this way. Because PvP is so extremely important to quite a few people, it is important to us that the PvP systems we will implement actually work well and are fun to play, and we did not feel this was the case for Team Deathmatch mode for the reasons explained in the blog.
In regards to Diablo II, that game was never really designed as a PvP game, but over time a PvP culture developed around the duelling system that resulted in a lot of people putting a lot of effort of that game into creating and gearing duelling characters. This should hopefully become possible in Diablo III as well come patch 1.0.7.
Again, it is important to emphasise that PvP in Diablo III hasn't been scrapped. While Team Deathmatch mode might not happen in the format that was shown at BlizzCon, something else will.
In regards to Diablo II, that game was never really designed as a PvP game, but over time a PvP culture developed around the duelling system that resulted in a lot of people putting a lot of effort of that game into creating and gearing duelling characters. This should hopefully become possible in Diablo III as well come patch 1.0.7.
Again, it is important to emphasise that PvP in Diablo III hasn't been scrapped. While Team Deathmatch mode might not happen in the format that was shown at BlizzCon, something else will.
Good Game, Bad Community
A user on the official forums created a topic stating that Diablo 3 is a good game, but thinks the community is dragging it down.
Originally Posted by Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
(As someone who’s been browsing these forums daily since their inception, I not only understand your eagerness to check up on the buzz surrounding the Diablo III community, but also the frustration you feel whenever you see complaints from players who are sometimes being less than constructive.
Here’s the thing: there are lots of people out there that enjoy Diablo III, and I’d wager that the majority of players posting here are doing so because they are passionate about the game and want to offer insight to make it even better. But there are also some players that simply like to stir the pot. My best suggestion for the latter is to down-vote their posts and take advantage of the “Ignore” feature if you feel they are being detrimental to the community -- and to use the “Report” function if they are outright breaching the forum’s Code of Conduct or Posting Guidelines. Using inappropriate language or harassing other players or employees is never okay, and we do our best to weed out such behavior from our forums.
As we’ve said many times before, we do appreciate feedback and constructive discussions, and we try our best to cultivate an environment where players feel comfortable discussing all things Diablo III. We realize the forums aren’t always going to be overflowing with rainbow unicorns and fluffy teddy bears, but that’s to be expected, and we truly do appreciate the continued passion of the Diablo III community.
Only idiots and egoists disregard good advice or feedback because their pride was hurt.
I wanted to jump in really quickly to say that this is the sort of exchange can lead to account actions. While players are welcome to disagree with each other, it is never acceptable on our forums to name-call or harass other players. It only hinders constructive conversation and makes those of us on this end ready our ban-hammers. Remember that discussing the game or one’s opinions of the game is okay, but attacking or belittling other players for their opinions isn’t.
Here’s the thing: there are lots of people out there that enjoy Diablo III, and I’d wager that the majority of players posting here are doing so because they are passionate about the game and want to offer insight to make it even better. But there are also some players that simply like to stir the pot. My best suggestion for the latter is to down-vote their posts and take advantage of the “Ignore” feature if you feel they are being detrimental to the community -- and to use the “Report” function if they are outright breaching the forum’s Code of Conduct or Posting Guidelines. Using inappropriate language or harassing other players or employees is never okay, and we do our best to weed out such behavior from our forums.
As we’ve said many times before, we do appreciate feedback and constructive discussions, and we try our best to cultivate an environment where players feel comfortable discussing all things Diablo III. We realize the forums aren’t always going to be overflowing with rainbow unicorns and fluffy teddy bears, but that’s to be expected, and we truly do appreciate the continued passion of the Diablo III community.
Only idiots and egoists disregard good advice or feedback because their pride was hurt.
I wanted to jump in really quickly to say that this is the sort of exchange can lead to account actions. While players are welcome to disagree with each other, it is never acceptable on our forums to name-call or harass other players. It only hinders constructive conversation and makes those of us on this end ready our ban-hammers. Remember that discussing the game or one’s opinions of the game is okay, but attacking or belittling other players for their opinions isn’t.
Gold Spam
Gold spam is still an issue for Diablo 3 but you can make the difference by just following the rules presented below.
Originally Posted by Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
(Just like the botters you mentioned, we take reports concerning gold spam very seriously and are continuing to take steps to combat it. As long as you are taking the time to report and block these users, then you are helping us ensure that we’re aware of which players are attempting to abuse the friend request system so that we can investigate them and take action against them.
We’re always looking to improve your online experience, and that includes the reporting system. Thanks for taking the time to give us feedback!
We’re always looking to improve your online experience, and that includes the reporting system. Thanks for taking the time to give us feedback!
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Garbage in, garbage out. The community was diverse and enjoyable when the game first came out but shortly after everyone discovered what D3 ended up being, those with sense left and all you had left were rabid fanboys furious that people didn't think this was another great entry in the Diablo franchise.
I disagree and think that some people genuinely enjoy playing this game, regardless of what anyone else thinks about it. Well, at least I know I do, which is really the only person I can speak for anyway.
lol no, I love how anyone with a different opinion than you is automatically labeled a 'fanboy'... troll on.
It is quite interesting that you post in the very site that includes your self in this "fanboy" tag you have placed over every one else that see some enjoy ment out d3. Sure is is not as amazing as the 10+ years of waiting and hype building up to it, but it dose have promise and it still is fun non the less. so while i register here and make my first post here just to call you out as a hypocrite, i now say your opinion has been nullified.
I'm a fan of the other Diablo games and thus follow the fansites because it's not impossible to fix a game. Right now the community is garbage because the game is garbage. Obviously posting on a fansite doesn't make you a fanboy because your voice has to be heard somehow. But I certainly stopped playing the game long ago.
If the franchise didn't have such a huge following prior to this game all the fansites for it wouldn't even be running and it would just die lonely in the bargain bins. The majority of the people who stopped playing WANT it to succeed (if for nothing else than to get their money's worth), but that doesn't mean they still play and thus all you have left are people with low standards. The logic is simple and it's easy to understand why the community in-game is so bad.
Something should ring a bell to you D3 white knights when the best selling PC game of all time (D3) makes nearly none of the high-profile gaming sites top games of 2012 list.
things that I do not like on this new game? Paragons, Nephalem valor, itemization (crits based game) ... I know, maybe this will never change, but who knows, I would like more of a d2 alike but it is just how every single one feels, every one has a opinion ...
well atm I am having fun with other games, it happens, since I have no fun at all playing diablo anymore, I agree that the community is not good at all, but every one had so much hope on this game and saying for me only, it was not what I was expecting ...
life goes on
Yeah... go believe in yourself about D3 being a good game with a bad community, Stryker....
Meanwhile as Ubermey said D3 follow the path of every other disenfranchised game that failed bad, as they ignored the players,and blamed their customers on ruining their work: life goes on, and they are left alone. There is PLENTY, and really mean that, PLENTY of green pastures out there. Repeating that dry brown is the best will not bring the cattle to your wasteland.And calling them idiots for not believing that will only worsen it.
RIGHT NOW the only way I see to make Diablo 3 work is to finally release the offline mode, where everyone can cheat all the way they like, edit saves as much as they want, win paragon levels at the touch of a Button, ON THEIR OWN MACHINES, UNPLUGGED FROM B.NET AND THE AH.
People will only value and respect Battle.net after they tried the most powerful character they can have in their own home, separated from others. Then they will have a goal: to repeat that online, in a legitimate way.
Type in info. Watch login screens pass through.
"OMG, 5 new people want to be my friend!"
Report Spam. Yes I wanna report them for spam, ya bastages.
Report Spam. Yes I wanna report them for spam, ya bastages.
Report Spam. Yes I wanna report them for spam, ya bastages.
Report Spam. Yes I wanna report them for spam, ya bastages.
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This is EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
I have a really hard time believing that Blizzard can't do something about this...
I feel that it's a more accurate description.
*cough* *cough* Bioware *cough* doppelgänger *cough*
And we know where Bioware stands now. Morhaime will insist in letting Jay Wilson walk this path for how much longer? I mean, the immediate future of Diablo 3 is right in front of us, to anyone see. Why let it turn that way?
Just say "who want to lead the change of D3 into offline mode, raise their hand" and substitute Jay Wilson.
This is hilarious. So you want it unpluged do you? Yeah you and every other video game pirate out there. D3 isnt hard. It does not take forever to get great gear and paragon level 100 but ah...What am i saying? I am trying to convince a Hater, hypocrite & a cheater. Silly me.
I completely agree. I too follow fan sites and wait for things to be fixed. D2 wasn't good until later in its lifespan and they're actively patching D3.
What you say about not being on top 2012 lists is totally true. Although, I am curious as to why people always say "of all time" like it will never be crushed? It's not the best-selling PC game of all time, just the best-selling to date.
Actually, the only way to make dIII work would be to jump aboard a DeLorean, go back in time and fix the fundamental flaws it was released with.
Something that could be applied to DIII. I don't say dIII is "bad" (it's still overall enjoyable as long as you don't try to go in too deep), but it should never have been released as it was and won't live up to its predecessors any time soon... if it ever does.
In a sense, I'd say DIII is Diablo's Phantom Menace.
What happened there? Did your post not save? No one has touched it on our side.
This I have to say is just so poor on so many levels. Years ago I used to be a moderator on the IGN message Boards and Blizzard's forums compared to the IGN's forums in terms of moderation and how it was run is absolutely horrendous. They are not cultivating any good environment for people to feel comfortable about discussing things about Diablo III. Forum trolls be they supporters or haters of the game run wild, the moderation team keeps themselves hidden behind an iron wall of secrecy, and community managers do a terrible job at their job. I know their jobs aren't easy, especially since I've been there as a moderator, but often times they come off as 'Blizzard Drones' to the community, though whether that is truly all their fault or the rules they have to abide by...it's still flaws all the way down. As a previous moderator that used to mod the Pokemon General Community Board, which was one of the higher traffic boards, I talked in topics with posters there, helped them with advice, etc, etc...I WAS PART OF THE COMMUNITY and in return I gained a lot of respect from the community. That and I wasn't a complete 'rule with an iron fist mod', but I kept people in line and because of that and other mods on the board, the board was very well behaved and the members ENJOYED our moderating presence because we were 'part of the crew'...just crew members with banhammers. With that said...
There is a severe lack of transparency between Blizzard and its fanbase, and when compared to other places like the Path of Exile forums where the designers are posting in threads, answering questions, and even taking time out of their schedules to answer questions on streams. Heck, Chris Williams and others were talking LIVE with Kripparian while he streamed and answered questions for around 2 hours or so from the livestream chat and from Kripp directly and they even talked about some of the up and coming changes for open beta and Act III. Grinding Gear Games may be an indie company with far less a budget than Blizzard, but they're doing it right...they ARE being transparent, they are COMMUNICATING with their player base as much as their time schedule sallow them, and they are forming good bridges between them and their fans. THIS is something that Blizzard has failed quite hard on, and over the years it's repeatedly returned to bit them in the butt over and over again and part of the reason why the Diablo III community forums are seen as such a wretched hive of scum and villainy, if you'll pardon the movie quote reference.
There is also a lot of frustration from the community due to the above mentioned things as well as so much good constructive criticism seemingly falling on deaf ears and outright ignored. Again, it begs the question that if smaller indie companies like GGG can have their all-important lead devs coming onto the boards and talking and answering questions, then why can't Blizzard devs do that? I mean, they certainly have plenty of time to tweet and facebook post "**** that loser!" with the amount of free time they seem to show that they have through their actions. I can sorta understand them NOT wanting to given how hostile the community is, but they are partially to blame here...the whole Blizzard team is as for what is stated above. So when the community feels ignored, when suggestions made by people who ARE frustrated with the state of Diablo III and WANT to see it become a better game that lives up to its predecessors' legacy, and when Blizzard just doesn't seem to care or acknowledge its player base that IS trying to help...what happens to that community?
It becomes hostile, full of vitriol, and in this case is a very good reflection of how poorly this game has been handled. Perhaps old but the saying "You reap what you sow" fits well here. Blizzard made a poor product, made poor decisions, is now being rather arrogant as a company, isn't listening as well as it should to its player base that IS trying to help, etc, etc...they are certainly reaping every bit of what they sowed.
Wish d3 released pvp at same time as releasee