Thanks, dkreger"Diablo is a game you play for, hopefully, hundreds of hours, and one of the rewards is a variety of different-looking environments." People looking back on old Diablo, he said, may have a selective memory. "People remember the Act I dungeons... but they kind of conveniently forget the green fields of Act I, and all of Act II... and it's palaces, its bright deserts."
All im saying lol
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/04/diablo-iii-designer-turns-tables/
Again, sorry if this is old news or posted in the wrong place.
That's a little different from zombies in a field. Isn't it? See what you do every time? You go from one dramatic to another in order to make a point. The problem is your point always ends up being shallow because it relies on exaggeration in order for it to have validity.
Totally disagree as you wanting a better game is based upon you wanting it your way.
Most people are whining and want it their way or the way their personally percieve D2 and they hate change. Do you think you could be happy with D3 if it has a contrast of beauty and darkness? If it has nice colors but dark themes? Are you going to be able to handle big shoulder pads that make your character look bad ass? Or are you going to question and over analyze and obsess mindlessly over the false notion that realism gives a game more emersion?
Welcome and nice post. People should read that article and come back here and tell us again why the game needs more grays and browns.
hey no fair i was gonna post this link lol.
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/diablo-fan-05.jpg
The darker version looks shit loads better, but i still cant help but be annoyed at the pastel like background and the cartoony look of the enemies.:mad:
So his explanations were great. Dead on. However now the assclowns who made the screenshots got attention and know that Blizz saw their work. So now we may see even more shots as people will want Blizz to see their crappy version of Diablo too.
I told most of you guys that your ideas would actually mess the game up and now we have Blizz confirming that. Ouchies.
Generally I don't really care for the photoshop versions since they would probably get boring after awhile and at times make it difficult to see enemies and other players. I'm plenty happy with the direction blizzard has gone.
That being said, I do actually like how this photoshopped screenshot turned out:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/diablo-fan-06.jpg
Stop trying to tell me that I don't understand you. I understand you fine. I simply understand things from a different perspective than "D2 had different shoulder pads in it!" I understand what you are asking for is silly to most people. I understand that you constantly use hyperbole to make your points and it gets you nowhere. That's what I've been trying to tell you for about 58 posts now.
No it isn't. it's their job to make the best game they can by their standards - not yours.
You constantly appeal to the masses of petitioners. Well, there are even more people who disagree with you - including Blizzard. So,...where does that get us?
^^^ OPINIONS. Not a real argument to speak of.
By not being a condescending ass.
Since when did debating include being an ass to people? What the hell ever happened to a civil debate? Hell, atleast Luck even had more respect.
The problem when ignorant people try to "guide" others on how to do their job is that nothing is practical. You're "guidance" comes off as mindless rants and whining.
There's a reason others are game designers and you're not. It's because they know what's practical and what works. While you just create ill conceived theories in photoshop, back handing the artist that get paid to do what they do.
It's their job to make a great game, as is the job of all game developers. It's not their job to please everyone. Any game designer will tell you that, and Blizzard has said it themselves.
And there's a lot of people who don't.
What's your point?
It is your opinion, and the opinion of others. Just because the masses have the same opinion doesn't make the opinion fact.
So? There's others that do think they look cool, such as myself and others on this very forum.
You seem to be stuck in a heard mentality. That if everyone in your group believes what they say is true then it must be true! Thankfully the world doesn't work like that. Perhaps you should try thinking out of the box, and thinking for yourself for a change.
You're like Luck's apprentice...only a bad one.
And I don't mean offense, but Kenzai, I think it is you who misunderstood me over and over and that's why you kept thinking I didn't understand you. I'm not saying this as some kind of come back. I feel that it's what was really happening.
I said I was done earlier and I didn't stick to it. This time no more lies - I'm done. Blizz made the right choice in my opinion with the art direction. I like the gameplay video and I can't wait for the next evolution of the Diablo series.
You.
So...you do have experience in game design and know what's practical when things are put in motion, rendered in 3D? You're a full fledged artist that knows what art will work in a game, and not just some kid with a cracked copy of photoshop thinking he knows what's best?
Again, you can't please everyone. Just because senior members here aren't happy with it doesn't mean anything really. It means...senior members aren't happy with it. Nothing more, nothing less.
No there's not. It seems most of those unhappy with the game are unhappy regardless of what's said by Blizzard in an attempt to calm the Diablo Fanboy Defense Force.
...mass opinion is still opinion.
But, again, mass opinion doesn't equal fact. Take a look at the various religions around the world for further proof.
Because it's your opinion they look fine, and they shouldn't fix what isn't broken. Other people think otherwise.
I don't even know any of the members here so that's a bit...moot. My line in regards to that was more in a joking manner anyway.
And what a welcome you've given.
Because "better" is subjective.
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Doppelganger you pretty much single handily just dismissed all of what Blizzard is trying to throw at us fans.
I really hope someone from Blizzard reads that and gets it through their head that by ignoring the fans, trying to take control of a game that really we fans make, and trying to say that they know best ( Which I am not saying we know best, but what the hell we are the consumer...) is wrong. Yes they are the creators of the game and they do great jobs, but to ignore us fans and down right slap us down without even seeming to try to compromise...just plain stupid. They will lose more and more customers with bad service like this and honestly they really need to pull a rabbit out of their ass with this one and this game better be the best game to come out for a LONG time, and if its not its all gonna fall down to this topic...the thread and day that Blizzard fought the fans on who knows whats best about the game that the consumers buy.
Before I get jumped..just gotta say, I believe Blizzard will make a fine game, im sure it will get better as it progresses and most stuff we are having problems with will get fixed. I want to see some proof tho that all these things they are stating will not do actually wont do. We have made pictures that prove that it looks better by most eyes so why cant they oh mighty blizzard bring some proof to the table when we lowly consumers can at any given moment?
if you guys are truly disappointed, which I doubt as you are so bent on talking 24/7 about the game (maybe you just don't have anything else to do, l2betatester), don't buy the game
complaining doesn't do anything, but not selling as much as they projected does
so by all means, when 09 comes around, don't buy diablo 3
the game will be all the better if you don't
blizzard makes millions a month from a game said to be "cartoony" and "boring"
taking your advice would be going against what they know
oh and if you do buy the game, you are hypocrites, because you are then accepting that art direction has NOTHING to do with how good a game is
Dude.. You need to get laid...
Besides, who says he has a dog? :cool:
First of all well said dopple, hope someone does point one of these blizzard idiots towards your post, you practically owned everything he said.
Also to the quoted statement., that cartoony game which is called wow look at its community its mostly based apon young idiots ranging from the ages 12-18, heck ive come across 9 year olds playing the bloody thing and the damn game is repetitive and boring so now ive stoped and ant touched it in a year, and also it is much harder to create an mmo in 3d rendered graphics than it is an rpg, diablo is a dark game it was never made to be cartoony i bet bill rouper spews his guts out every time he see's new shots and clips of D3.
I'll bet you'd squeal loud if your favorite game lost it's roots, its always easier to throw stones when you don't care or are for the changes. What you have here are a bunch of us who really want to believe the game will rock and we keep coming back hoping the next sneak peak will be more in line with what we have come to expect but have been terribly disappointed so far. Have you ever witnessed something you like turn into a shadow of it's former glory?
What is most important to me and I'm sure to most of the community is how the story and gameplay will be like.