I mean i personally prefer the enchantress attack speed as I have 61.5% unbuffed crit right now, and the difference between the enchantress and scoundrel for my dps is 1.1k. I like the armor, and the erosion buff that she grants as it makes burning down extra health mobs that much faster. I also like the knockback of hers (sometimes). A big part of the difference in price between US and EU is pretty aparrent here, as i got a IK helm with 170 str, 5.5% crit chance, 12% life, and like 30 AR for around 25 mil. I think it had more AR, but my profile hasnt updated since i bought new gear this morning before the server downtime.
IMO, you should either sell the mempo and get an IK chest(so you can drop the belt for a witching hour, or drop the gloves for a well rolled rare/better IK glove), or sell the IK helm, and get the chest. If you upgrade your ammy with whatever gold you have left over to a 10% crit chance ammy, its almost like the mempo has 3.5% crit :Thumbs Up:
In all seriousness though, selling the mempo would likely be the way to go unless you get one with crit due to how good your current helm is. You can get a IK helm with 80 more str, and the same crit with a fraction of that gold, and have some left over to upgrade something else.
The Ik helmet was a gift from a wiz friend, so cant sell that, because he has a barb too. Anyway Mempo' s like the one that dropped for me are only worth around 19m tops on EU. Only when they have CHC do they become pricey.
Most of my gear is from drops, i hadrly have cash, and the cash i have made sofar i have used to upgrade gems. Because in all honesty, the game is more fun if you get upgrades from drops then from AH. For me anyway
you can take that 16 mil (possibly more) that you get from the mempo and use it on a 150 str 5.5% crit chance IK helm, and give the old one back to a friend then. You can also use that 16mil to get a new ammy.
If you dont want to buy gear from the AH, then upgrade your last gems, and maybe get a grand vizier and some good MF stuff for your enchantress. With 2 16% MF rings, a 36% neck, and 44% vizier, i get 22% MF from her, which isnt bad. The armor passive from the enchantress would also be decent for you as far as EHP goes.
IMO, you should either sell the mempo and get an IK chest(so you can drop the belt for a witching hour, or drop the gloves for a well rolled rare/better IK glove), or sell the IK helm, and get the chest. If you upgrade your ammy with whatever gold you have left over to a 10% crit chance ammy, its almost like the mempo has 3.5% crit :Thumbs Up:
In all seriousness though, selling the mempo would likely be the way to go unless you get one with crit due to how good your current helm is. You can get a IK helm with 80 more str, and the same crit with a fraction of that gold, and have some left over to upgrade something else.
Right now, A shield will be one of your most inexpensive purchases, especially to get a really good one. Right now, your main concerns should be + armor, str, vit, and AR. Bracers, gloves, and amulets that do not have crit/crit damage/attack speed are extremely cheap right now, so you should be able to find some really good buys. While frenzy-smite is pretty decent, you will see more of a benefit from frenzy-maniac as the stacking damage applies to all of your abilities. You can also find leg armor that has 1 or no sockets that can make up for it in higher str/vit along with having AR on them, as AR is your most important stat right now. With boots, its basically the same deal.
You also have enough life where when you get your AR up to around 400, you can consider swapping your vit gems for str gems to help your dps out.
Searched the AH up and down for something similar, and there was nothing close to this 1h at all. The closest thing to it has 50 less dps, and is going for around 20 mil right now. Any serious offers considered.
933.8 dps
120 int
88 vit
63 crit damage
13 mana per second
2.8% lifesteal
OS
since u got the chest, most expensive piece, u might as well get a good rolls boot and comlpete the set later
I tend to agree with this to an extent, though my personal preference is towards fire walkers mainly due to affordability, and also in part due to the fire trail. While the 3 piece IK is really nice (4% melee damage reduction), fire walkers offer the very same reduction, can have similar or better stats, and cost half the gold due to the sheer amount on the AH. Like I told you in your other topic, in my opinion, Fire Walkers are the way to go until you can afford decently rolled Ice Climbers (ones with str, vit, AR, and runspeed are in the hundreds of millions). The fire trail actually helps quite a bit more than I originally gave it credit for, and is pretty decent in terms of usefulness. While it cant proc LOH, I do believe that it does proc LL. Now I do concede that in getting the fire walkers, in order to get a really good roll, it will be similar in price to a pair of IK boots, however, if you are willing to take a hit in either AR or vit (you can get Fire Walkers with 150+ str and either high vit/low AR or low vit/high AR for about the same price), the money that you save for going for a slightly more inexpensive item will pay off in the form that you can get some IK gloves with similar stats to yours and still get the IK 3 set bonus.
DPS wise, you would benefit greatly from picking up a helm with crit chance on it. I would also consider getting a decent pair of fire walkers for new boots as the runspeed is nice, and they are dirt cheap. I would do both of these before the ammy.
For the ammy itself, though, try to find one with similar stats and with the added bonus of either LOH if your wanting to go up higher in MP levels, attack speed, or crit damage for the sake of making runs more efficient.
Thanks for the excellent advice! I think you maybe misread my op though. The second amulet was a drop vs the one I was already wearing. That said, you are absolutely right I need to improve both helm & boots. I'm going to look into the firewalkers ASAP, though I'm a little light on gold at the moment.
Yeah, depending on your budget, they are still pretty easily affordable. I bought mine for 3 million, and they have
160 str
147 vit
60 int
49 Fire res
4% less melee dmg
They are not ideal by any means, and I lost some all res to do so, but they are otherwise great.
I did misread your OP, as i thought you were saying that you were going to buy that second amulet. Since you have a lot of all resist as it is, I would say that you could use the new amulet decently well, and it shouldnt be that much of a problem. Best advice that I can give you is to try it out, and if you are getting rocked a little too hard, then you may have to reconsider using the new one. Like ballon said, if you can afford to lose the vit (and phys resist), then do so. If its still a question of is it worth it or not, i suggest you may try using d3up.com to compare stats unbuffed (you can also see what stats impact your DPS and EHP best there too).
Alright, but now that my CHC is over 60% having rage is no issue at all. The problem is more that once i pop WotB that my fury stays at maximum all the time, and i am having a hard time dumping enough rage fast enough.
What the posters above me holds true about attack speed, however I personally am not a huge fan of mighty weapons, especially if you are having issues dumping rage, as when I tried a mighty weapon, I had the same problem. The way that I counter rage capping is that I basically spam sprint and battle rage like crazy. When I did siege/ZK uber with my friends last night (2 WD and a DH), I had no issues with losing WOTB, and managed to pretty easily kill siege right as they were finishing ZK on MP6. Like I said, if you are finding that WOTB is starting to get low on duration, and your only facing a few (or just one) enemies, what I do is just stand still and bash while spamming sprint and battle rage. You dont have to actually use the sprint, but you can activate it to help burn off some rage. Using this little trick, I can get my WOTB to go from 2-3 seconds left to full in no time at all.
maybe 5-8mil at most. The strength roll is nice, but the crit damage is low. For any of the legendary weapons to be worth any gold these days they have to be exceptional. The damage roll is also pretty low as well.
If that were 1350+ dps and 185+ crit damage, then it would be very valuable. Or if it had lifesteal.
DPS wise, you would benefit greatly from picking up a helm with crit chance on it. I would also consider getting a decent pair of fire walkers for new boots as the runspeed is nice, and they are dirt cheap. I would do both of these before the ammy.
For the ammy itself, though, try to find one with similar stats and with the added bonus of either LOH if your wanting to go up higher in MP levels, attack speed, or crit damage for the sake of making runs more efficient.
I just got 5 stacks in MP5, even killed 2 elite mobs at the same time. My HP stay up great now, so i think u were right mobs where going down to feast before. So thanks for making me a better killing machine ;-0 I think i now what the problem was, i mostly only used Wotb when there where elites, now i try to keep it up longer and that helps. Although keeping it up isn't quite easy as i have to spam BR all the time to dump rage, which quite often isn't enough...
How do u do this effectively?
Honestly, the best way to keep it up is if the group is starting to dwindle down, I will do another circle or 2 around them, then start searching for the next pack. If its a creature with more health (like the big crab things), i will actually just sit still and bash it while mashing sprint and battle rage as fast as I can to burn off rage to get the duration of WOTB back up. You can really do this with any mob, but it works best on mobs with high HP. I also do this when the duration of my WOTB is waning while killing elites that run away like those porcupine dudes.
Thanks a lot for putting so much time in explaining and responding. It is much appreciated!
I just spend roughly 20m on FireWalkers, IK Irons and bracers with AR and CHC. Buffed my CHC is now 63%
Just tried MP3 which was nice, although it seemed to take longer to kill stuff.
My healing was nice.
What i do is sprint and ww at the same time and then just make circles at the outer edges of the mobs. After these few upgrades i noticed that getting rage has become significantly easier, keeping OP-CA up is very easy now (the ping to remind u that it is ready, is very nice), i am duping rage by pushing BR. If i am low on HP i just sprint around mobs.
I tried MP5, i didn't die, but it took very long to kill stuff, which doesn't make it effective for me atm.
It depends on what you mean by "it took very long". Do you mean more than 20 seconds for elites? If so, than its perfectly understandable, given how the HP scales. Remember that your dps according to your character sheet does not reflect your true dps, so your actual dps is higher than it states. If you are having issues with kill speed (for mobs that mostly stand still), try whirlwind through them in addition to around them. Every hit of whirlwind that you can squeeze in is a lot of extra damage given crits... it also procs more tornados in the middle too. Popping OP when in the middle of adds whenever its up also really boosts your effectiveness. Even though you made the changes, the dps gains/losses that you made will allow you to probably farm mp4-6 decently comfortably, albeit a little bit slower.
I was just wondering, how far can my barb go? currently I'm doing fine on MP5, but is it possible to get some more dps(like 20K or 30K lol ) without losing my current form of sustainance? to do like MP10 with relative ease?
The best way for you to gain DPS right now is to get a lot more crit. You can fairly easily gain 20% more crit by grabbing new bracers with 6% crit, grabbing gloves with 8% or more crit, and a ammy with 8% or more crit for not a whole lot of gold. Since you have on the higher end of resists, you can afford to lose quite a bit, and still keep the same level of survivability. You should honestly consider grabbing a mace or axe for your weapon instead of a sword, as crit is better than attack speed for your barb at the moment. The bous 10% crit from weapons master will make a huge difference in dps (around 4k alone). You can get a decently rolled skorn with 300+ strength, and some crit damage, and you will see a very large boost in dps (around 12k alone from the crit from weapons master, and the crit damage you get from skorn always rolling with it). You can also get that skorn with higher dps than your current weapon for under 10 million easily. You will have to sacrifice some strength to do so, but it it worth it due to the fact that losing 200 strength would only lose you about 500 dps.
I simulated your barb with a skorn that has 1315 dps, 330 str, 150% crit damage, and a socket, and that alone gained you over 10k dps, and a skorn with those stats usually costs less than 10 million. I also tried a neck without the damage roll, only 160 str, and 8% crit, and that gained you around 4k dps. You can stand to lose some health due to your damage output. If your goal is MP10, than you may not want to consider losing any defensive stats, but replacing your 2h sword with an axe or mace with some crit damage, higher dps, and a socket at the expense of vit and 200 or more strength will net you a dps gain, which in turn nets you better survivability through rend. On MP10, as a 2h barb, I would have to play it by ear whether or not to drop my war cry for a different ability due to the fact that you are already pretty decently tanky. You may want to consider using WOTB-insanity for the snap need for a big dps boost, as well as immunity from any CC. If you are having issues staying alive, you may consider using furious charge-dreadnaught, or ignore pain-ignorance is bliss to gain some more snap healing as well. You may also want to consider grabbing a lamentation belt for the added lifeleach as well as the fact that they tend to have very nice strength rolls.
Also how do you kill either large groups of enemies, or elites. Do you do the kiting method and just let your tornados do the damage, or do you tend to make tight circles around enemies. The key to surviving (especially if slightly undergeared for your MP), is to keep your WOTB up as much as you can. Against large groups of enemies, this is easy as long as you remember to be dumping rage constantly. WOTB will not gain any time on its duration if you are full on rage, as you can not gain any rage. If you are the type that likes to use whirlwind as another primary source of damage, you will want to make sure that you dont completely empty your rage so that you cant keep sprint up, but you also dont want to have your rage be full all the time. While it may look like your rage isnt moving against large packs, if you are spamming abilities that cost rage (to the point of reason), than the duration on WOTB should not move.
The way I play (I have similar stats to you, except more health and armor) is by starting by basing enemies (if I dont have the initial rage to start sprinting/whirlwinding), and either gather enemies up, or start making my circles. What this means is that if the enemies are melee enemies, I will keep sprint up while whirlwinding around the outer edge of the pack of enemies (or single enemy like those giant crab things). The lifeleach that I get from the whirlwinds combined with the tornadoes means that I basically never run our of rage regardless of how much I try to spam sprint and battle rage to keep my rage bar low, especially with WOTB. If you are having issues with the duration of WOTB against a single enemy, what I like to do is to spam sprint and battle rage while bashing the enemy. Since your attack speed is high, you will be able to spam these abilities as fast as you want, and as long as you are bashing the enemy, you wont run out of rage, and also have the added bonus of having the rage that you are gaining from the bashes adding extra time to your WOTB.
All things considered, you may actually want to up the monster power. A large part of your problem could very well be that the enemies are dying too fast. If they die too fast, you will not be able to keep up your rage or healing, as you need your abilities to hit fast, and multiple times in order to gain benefit from them. Try out either MP3 or 4, and see if you are having the same exact problem. The best places to test this (IMO) are in act 3 keep depths 2, as it has some of the best mob density, and elite density in the game, and will allow you to properly gauge what the issue truly is.
I wish that I played on EU so that i could personally help you out with either your playstyle by seeing it, or by being able to help you find great deals on the AH and whatnot.
0
0
you can take that 16 mil (possibly more) that you get from the mempo and use it on a 150 str 5.5% crit chance IK helm, and give the old one back to a friend then. You can also use that 16mil to get a new ammy.
If you dont want to buy gear from the AH, then upgrade your last gems, and maybe get a grand vizier and some good MF stuff for your enchantress. With 2 16% MF rings, a 36% neck, and 44% vizier, i get 22% MF from her, which isnt bad. The armor passive from the enchantress would also be decent for you as far as EHP goes.
0
In all seriousness though, selling the mempo would likely be the way to go unless you get one with crit due to how good your current helm is. You can get a IK helm with 80 more str, and the same crit with a fraction of that gold, and have some left over to upgrade something else.
0
You also have enough life where when you get your AR up to around 400, you can consider swapping your vit gems for str gems to help your dps out.
0
0
933.8 dps
120 int
88 vit
63 crit damage
13 mana per second
2.8% lifesteal
OS
0
I tend to agree with this to an extent, though my personal preference is towards fire walkers mainly due to affordability, and also in part due to the fire trail. While the 3 piece IK is really nice (4% melee damage reduction), fire walkers offer the very same reduction, can have similar or better stats, and cost half the gold due to the sheer amount on the AH. Like I told you in your other topic, in my opinion, Fire Walkers are the way to go until you can afford decently rolled Ice Climbers (ones with str, vit, AR, and runspeed are in the hundreds of millions). The fire trail actually helps quite a bit more than I originally gave it credit for, and is pretty decent in terms of usefulness. While it cant proc LOH, I do believe that it does proc LL. Now I do concede that in getting the fire walkers, in order to get a really good roll, it will be similar in price to a pair of IK boots, however, if you are willing to take a hit in either AR or vit (you can get Fire Walkers with 150+ str and either high vit/low AR or low vit/high AR for about the same price), the money that you save for going for a slightly more inexpensive item will pay off in the form that you can get some IK gloves with similar stats to yours and still get the IK 3 set bonus.
0
Yeah, depending on your budget, they are still pretty easily affordable. I bought mine for 3 million, and they have
160 str
147 vit
60 int
49 Fire res
4% less melee dmg
They are not ideal by any means, and I lost some all res to do so, but they are otherwise great.
I did misread your OP, as i thought you were saying that you were going to buy that second amulet. Since you have a lot of all resist as it is, I would say that you could use the new amulet decently well, and it shouldnt be that much of a problem. Best advice that I can give you is to try it out, and if you are getting rocked a little too hard, then you may have to reconsider using the new one. Like ballon said, if you can afford to lose the vit (and phys resist), then do so. If its still a question of is it worth it or not, i suggest you may try using d3up.com to compare stats unbuffed (you can also see what stats impact your DPS and EHP best there too).
0
What the posters above me holds true about attack speed, however I personally am not a huge fan of mighty weapons, especially if you are having issues dumping rage, as when I tried a mighty weapon, I had the same problem. The way that I counter rage capping is that I basically spam sprint and battle rage like crazy. When I did siege/ZK uber with my friends last night (2 WD and a DH), I had no issues with losing WOTB, and managed to pretty easily kill siege right as they were finishing ZK on MP6. Like I said, if you are finding that WOTB is starting to get low on duration, and your only facing a few (or just one) enemies, what I do is just stand still and bash while spamming sprint and battle rage. You dont have to actually use the sprint, but you can activate it to help burn off some rage. Using this little trick, I can get my WOTB to go from 2-3 seconds left to full in no time at all.
0
If that were 1350+ dps and 185+ crit damage, then it would be very valuable. Or if it had lifesteal.
0
For the ammy itself, though, try to find one with similar stats and with the added bonus of either LOH if your wanting to go up higher in MP levels, attack speed, or crit damage for the sake of making runs more efficient.
0
Honestly, the best way to keep it up is if the group is starting to dwindle down, I will do another circle or 2 around them, then start searching for the next pack. If its a creature with more health (like the big crab things), i will actually just sit still and bash it while mashing sprint and battle rage as fast as I can to burn off rage to get the duration of WOTB back up. You can really do this with any mob, but it works best on mobs with high HP. I also do this when the duration of my WOTB is waning while killing elites that run away like those porcupine dudes.
0
It depends on what you mean by "it took very long". Do you mean more than 20 seconds for elites? If so, than its perfectly understandable, given how the HP scales. Remember that your dps according to your character sheet does not reflect your true dps, so your actual dps is higher than it states. If you are having issues with kill speed (for mobs that mostly stand still), try whirlwind through them in addition to around them. Every hit of whirlwind that you can squeeze in is a lot of extra damage given crits... it also procs more tornados in the middle too. Popping OP when in the middle of adds whenever its up also really boosts your effectiveness. Even though you made the changes, the dps gains/losses that you made will allow you to probably farm mp4-6 decently comfortably, albeit a little bit slower.
0
The best way for you to gain DPS right now is to get a lot more crit. You can fairly easily gain 20% more crit by grabbing new bracers with 6% crit, grabbing gloves with 8% or more crit, and a ammy with 8% or more crit for not a whole lot of gold. Since you have on the higher end of resists, you can afford to lose quite a bit, and still keep the same level of survivability. You should honestly consider grabbing a mace or axe for your weapon instead of a sword, as crit is better than attack speed for your barb at the moment. The bous 10% crit from weapons master will make a huge difference in dps (around 4k alone). You can get a decently rolled skorn with 300+ strength, and some crit damage, and you will see a very large boost in dps (around 12k alone from the crit from weapons master, and the crit damage you get from skorn always rolling with it). You can also get that skorn with higher dps than your current weapon for under 10 million easily. You will have to sacrifice some strength to do so, but it it worth it due to the fact that losing 200 strength would only lose you about 500 dps.
I simulated your barb with a skorn that has 1315 dps, 330 str, 150% crit damage, and a socket, and that alone gained you over 10k dps, and a skorn with those stats usually costs less than 10 million. I also tried a neck without the damage roll, only 160 str, and 8% crit, and that gained you around 4k dps. You can stand to lose some health due to your damage output. If your goal is MP10, than you may not want to consider losing any defensive stats, but replacing your 2h sword with an axe or mace with some crit damage, higher dps, and a socket at the expense of vit and 200 or more strength will net you a dps gain, which in turn nets you better survivability through rend. On MP10, as a 2h barb, I would have to play it by ear whether or not to drop my war cry for a different ability due to the fact that you are already pretty decently tanky. You may want to consider using WOTB-insanity for the snap need for a big dps boost, as well as immunity from any CC. If you are having issues staying alive, you may consider using furious charge-dreadnaught, or ignore pain-ignorance is bliss to gain some more snap healing as well. You may also want to consider grabbing a lamentation belt for the added lifeleach as well as the fact that they tend to have very nice strength rolls.
0
The way I play (I have similar stats to you, except more health and armor) is by starting by basing enemies (if I dont have the initial rage to start sprinting/whirlwinding), and either gather enemies up, or start making my circles. What this means is that if the enemies are melee enemies, I will keep sprint up while whirlwinding around the outer edge of the pack of enemies (or single enemy like those giant crab things). The lifeleach that I get from the whirlwinds combined with the tornadoes means that I basically never run our of rage regardless of how much I try to spam sprint and battle rage to keep my rage bar low, especially with WOTB. If you are having issues with the duration of WOTB against a single enemy, what I like to do is to spam sprint and battle rage while bashing the enemy. Since your attack speed is high, you will be able to spam these abilities as fast as you want, and as long as you are bashing the enemy, you wont run out of rage, and also have the added bonus of having the rage that you are gaining from the bashes adding extra time to your WOTB.
All things considered, you may actually want to up the monster power. A large part of your problem could very well be that the enemies are dying too fast. If they die too fast, you will not be able to keep up your rage or healing, as you need your abilities to hit fast, and multiple times in order to gain benefit from them. Try out either MP3 or 4, and see if you are having the same exact problem. The best places to test this (IMO) are in act 3 keep depths 2, as it has some of the best mob density, and elite density in the game, and will allow you to properly gauge what the issue truly is.
I wish that I played on EU so that i could personally help you out with either your playstyle by seeing it, or by being able to help you find great deals on the AH and whatnot.