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    posted a message on Why don't the demons use any weapons?
    Well, it's kind of ironic, because Hell actually has its own Forge, and Heaven doesn't, as far as we know. So I'm guessing that demonic weapons have to exist, I guess...or then again, maybe not, if the Forge is just used to create armor or to unmake heavenly weapons.

    The Angiris Council are really interesting characters, but it just seems strange that for all their power and items of power (the Sword, Cord, Spear, Scroll and Chalice), they've never been able to kill even one of the seven Great Evils over thousands of years (while a few humans with untapped potential were able to slaughter five in maybe a week), and the Angels, for all their weapons, still haven't won a war against disorganized hordes of unarmed creatures...
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    posted a message on Book of Cain - Evaluation
    Some people really like it, some people really don't. Same with everything, I guess. I personally was and am really satisfied with it, though; the depth of the content and the pictures alone were able to pretty much win me over.
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    posted a message on Why don't the demons use any weapons?
    I mean, the Angiris Council and the other Angels have weapons, but the Seven Evils, including Diablo himself, have no weapons as we know of; even Andariel and Duriel, who were not trapped in Soulstones, did not seem to wield actual weapons against the player. Why don't the demons have any weapons? Has there ever been an instance that they have wielded one?
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    posted a message on Φ Imperius - The true threat to Sanctuary?
    Quote from Doomscream

    He will just tell us that we are not prepared.
    For what? You can't seriously think we're not going to fight Imperius? I mean, if you really believe that, that's fine, but...
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    posted a message on Φ Imperius - The true threat to Sanctuary?
    Quote from Daemaro

    That doesn't necessarily mean he's a boss. Just that he's in the last level. I mean Cain's not a boss. :P
    Maybe...but Imperius is no Deckard Cain, and I doubt he has changed so much in the years that he's been reduced to telling stories to mortals. I mean, if we don't fight him, what does he do when we meet him? And if "Valor turns to Wrath", there's only so many things that can happen when a group of warriors face a wrathful Archangel of Valor in his own realm. If only Imperius was less idiotic and actually tried fighting by humanity's side for a change...Diablo would have been killed so many times that Hell would have drowned in a sea of blood, not just rivers.
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    posted a message on What's the point of killing?
    Quote from Veggie50

    A hundred years later...Diablo 10. The humans of Sanctuary are probably going to get really, really tired of seeing Diablo then when he tries to conquer them yet again...or, then again, maybe not. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Diablo games as well, it's just that I can't imagine what the creators are going to do to really "end" the game plot, if ever, since we can banish the Prime Evils all we want and they'll still return...
    Impossible, unless Blizzard sells the franchise. You know there's no way Blizzard would pump out 7 sequals in a mere century.
    Well, I didn't actually mean, like, 7 sequels, but...it's just that the Diablo games are "Diablo"-based. The Lord of Terror is pretty much the main character and icon. It's just not possible for the franchise to continue without Diablo playing a major role, so he literally has to come back, no matter how many times he's killed. If Sanctuary seals itself off from Diablo, for instance, then any story continuing in Sanctuary...just wouldn't be "Diablo".

    Players want to kill him more and more - and that's why he'll never die.
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    posted a message on What's the point of killing?
    Quote from Painapple

    Because it's immensely fun and satisfying!
    A hundred years later...Diablo 10. The humans of Sanctuary are probably going to get really, really tired of seeing Diablo then when he tries to conquer them yet again...or, then again, maybe not. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Diablo games as well, it's just that I can't imagine what the creators are going to do to really "end" the game plot, if ever, since we can banish the Prime Evils all we want and they'll still return...
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    posted a message on What's the point of killing?
    So after Diablo is killed (again) in the third game, he'll just come back twenty years later?
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    posted a message on What's the point of killing?
    What's the real point of killing Diablo and the demons if they can come back over and over again, and each time stronger and more deadly than the last? Sure, you might delay their plans, but they just keep coming back from death, and more angry and eager to destroy the world with some new plan every time. I mean, if you really did live in Sanctuary and, no matter what you do, Diablo and the demons keep coming back, when and how does it really end? They can't be permanently destroyed, right? I mean, do you think the Conflict will last forever, in the Diablo Universe, or, even if it does end, will a new Universe just be formed cyclically, the same as the old one?
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    posted a message on Does Azmodan corrupt Imperius?
    Quote from Jinshin

    We do face off against some of his lieutenants, so I can see Imperius falling to Asmodan's power in some subtle, indirect way. It would be in such a way that Imperius falls right into Asmodan's hands without realizing it.
    Do you think the demonic corruption of the Crystal Arch might have something to do with it?
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    posted a message on Does Azmodan corrupt Imperius?
    According to the Diablo Wiki:
    Azmodan as a physical being is an incarnate of all seven of the deadly sins: wrath, greed, sloth, price, lust, envy, and gluttony. He also controls powerful demons who personify each of those sins, two of whom will be seen in the initial version of Diablo III.
    One of these has long been known, Gluttony Incarnate, the Thousand Pounder. A second was revealed during a BlizzCon 2011 panel as Cydaea, the Maiden of Lust. (Formerly known as the Mistress of Pain.

    Is it possible that, as "Valor shall turn to Wrath", and Wrath is one of the Seven Sins, Azmodan is the one responsible for the corruption of Imperius? I mean, we already know Lust and Gluttony...why not the other five as well?
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    posted a message on Φ Imperius - The true threat to Sanctuary?
    Quote from Davesonfire

    Here is my thoughts about Imperius and the story around him;

    First i dont think Imperius is going to be an enemy in D3, im guessing more something like this. Im not going to go deep in why im saying this and that but heres my guess anyway.

    Tyrael is going to be changed from the event of the Worldstone explosion, for some reason he is faling from the sky in the meteor we have seen and he is quite powerlless. Why 20 years after i dont know.

    Imperius is angry about Tyrael's interferences in Sanctuary and his selfish choice to destroy the Worldstone wich
    could explain the ; Imperius shall turn to wrath. Then Imperius decide to join the conflict directly realizing that he must do something now that tyrael is out of power. Im not saying he is going to be our big buddy like tyrael but more like acting alone to saveguard the high heavens.

    This said, looking at this picture makes me think he is trying to stop something from entering the heavens doors.
    http://diablo.wikia....le:Imperius.jpg
    Well, I think Tyrael destroyed the Worldstone to prevent humanity from succumbing to Hell's corruption, so it wasn't that selfish, and, according to this, Imperius is a boss for the final level in the game:
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    posted a message on Gods of Sanctuary
    Quote from Doomscream

    Quote from Ralnon7

    Quote from Doomscream

    That's old lore from manuals, I am sure it will go through some changes and explanations or even retcons.
    Well, there have been considerable retcons, yeah, but I think that was from the second Diablo in-game lore, not the older manuals...
    I can't think of any deity mentioned in-game, except the worship of 'the Light'.
    What about Hefaetrus and Zerae? Didn't the Amazon in Diablo 2 use powers like Fire Arrow and Lightning, and both were said to come from their fire god and storm goddess, who were said to literally reside in Sanctuary? If they're Nephalem, or the spawn of Nephalem who have somehow endured for thousands of years, then that would be problematic, as the Ancients themselves were not immortal...

    http://www.planetdiablo.com/tactics/amazon.htm
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    posted a message on Gods of Sanctuary
    Quote from Doomscream

    That's old lore from manuals, I am sure it will go through some changes and explanations or even retcons.
    Well, there have been considerable retcons, yeah, but I think that was from the second Diablo in-game lore, not the older manuals...
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    posted a message on Black Soulstone and the Angel connection [Speculation of course]
    Quote from Doomscream

    Rakanoth is referred as the Lord of Anguish in the datamined files, not the Lord of Despair.
    Yes, he is...but his design, or so it seems, also names him as Lord of Despair, and Despair and Anguish are closely related. Furthermore, I think the part of the Prophecy concerning Auriel must have some significance and deeper meaning to it, so Rakanoth remains the most likely possibility.
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