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    posted a message on [Official] Release Date Speculation Thread
    Quote from FreddyBenson


    but i dont know about vegas, what happened?

    IIRC, someone at the vegas convention center (which is huge, has a monorail stop the strip, and would generally be an awesome place for a bcon) leaked a potential schedule. (Here's the speculative part:) Someone in Irvine got pissed, and realized that the entire thing would be much harder to control than doing it a few miles up the 5 in Anaheim, and killed it. They probably also didn't shed tears at the idea of the leaker getting in trouble.

    The thing is, with digital downloads, Bliz has more leverage than ever, excepting the REAL big dogs like Target or Walmart, I wouldn't be shocked to see them freeze out a retailer for the week of release if they did a big, obvious leak. Of course, if Vegas is hard to control, imagine trying to keep a leash on retailers in Asia or Europe...
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    posted a message on [Official] Release Date Speculation Thread
    Quote from JaundiceBunny

    I've also saw that, but not official if it isn't from Blizz themselves! :Thumbs Up:

    Not only is it unofficial, but it may well piss them off enough to move it out a few weeks while finding a way to punish the leaker.

    Remember the potential blizcon in vegas?
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    posted a message on Expansion Classes, HOW DO THEY WORK?
    pally redux is a good guess. I wonder where xp releases will fit in with the console release?
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    I was surprised by the 'annual pass' commitment for that reason, rayken, it doesn't really give them an out in terms of cancelling it...

    Or does it? Maybe there's some fine print.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Quote from Keiser

    If you want to say D3 will make WoW lose subscriptions, but point at Skyrim's development being so fantastic, why didn't Skyrim affect WoW's subscriptions, or SWTOR, or any of those other groundbreaking titles that came out?

    I don't think Skyrim is fantastic, just because I find the whole ES approach boring and formulaic. I find WoW boring too. I doubt I'm alone. I also think of Skyrim as being mostly a console game, and don't have the time to play with mods, and I'm also not alone in that regards.

    For all of D3's many flaws and intentionally circular design process, it will be a hell of a lot more fun, and many WoWheads' first experience of a multiplayer game with a little character-based depth that doesn't suck. Ironically, that isn't a good thing for Blizzard's bottom line.

    Anyhow, who is to say that Skryim and SWTOR haven't taken a piece out of WoW? The latest weekly activity numbers are really kind of crappy, and may represent a 5-year-low if they sink under the mid-december numbers. Really pretty weak for just a month after what will probably be the biggest drop between cat and pandas.

    http://www.warcraftr...php?serverid=-1
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Quote from Doez


    Funny that this is the only snippet you can respond to.

    No, I could respond to a number of other misconceptions you have, but I'll just let the lack of a release date in the next few months speak for itself, and enjoy the sound of silence as the last few people here realize what I've been saying for a couple years now is, sadly, true.

    A senior employee at Bliz making in two months what you make in a year is funny, isn't it? How about it being a pleasant 63 degrees in Irvine while you're getting snowed on at 22 degrees? Also absurd and unimaginable, I'm sure.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Quote from Doez

    Maybe I should move out to Cali with all the tree hugging hippy liberals so I too can make $400k+ a year like the rest of them

    Funny. You think a senior programmer or old-school cinematics guy costs much less after bonuses, benefits, payroll tax and general facilities maintenance? Of course, you also probably think that Irvine is analagous to a place like Santa Cruz or Santa Monica in terms of 'tree huggers'. I sense a trend here in your general knowledge of things.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Quote from Doez

    The longer the game is delayed, the less in their return, no matter how any other product is doing for Blizzard.

    Uh... unless that product directly competes with an established product, and the new competing product is a one-time sale with fairly crappy margins, and the established one makes exponentially more on a recurring basis.


    Of course, I defer to your superior experience, being in the hotbed of technology and business development known as Cleveland.
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    posted a message on Senior Game Producer Is gone.
    Quote from soulzek

    This has no connection to Diablo 3's release date.

    Uh-huh. Just like losing the lead producer, lead artist and a veteran programmer three years ago has nothing to do with why the game still isn't out.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Sure, Doez, it seems like a conspiracy if you've never worked in the corporate world and don't know what 1.5 bil on a regular basis with >50% margins means.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Quote from chippydip

    Quote from Gheed2010

    Funny, you guys still don't get that this whole game is intentional. Cancel your WoW sub yet?

    One more time... a recurring 1.5 billion is better than a one-time 250 million, especially when the latter threatens the former.

    This is just silly. People who signed up for the annual pass are locked in no matter when D3 comes out (it will be out before the subscription is over).

    Most people who plan to stop playing WoW because of D3 have probably already quit WoW (if you know you're quitting soon, why drag it out?)

    There will definitely be some people who cancel WoW as a result of the D3 release, but Blizzard is probably lucky if their current subscription fees are even covering the cost of the extended D3 development time. (Hint: delaying the D3 release is not free, and WoW subs aren't 100% profit).

    No disrespect, but you're wrong on a few levels. Every level of management is concerned about cannibalization, and it is the only explanation for why the game has been in design-based turnaround for 9 months, and why they consciously chose to throw in the RMAH, which they had to have known would be a regulatory monkey-wrench.

    And I wouldn't worry about WoW subs covering development - even if you factor in the bloated salaries in their cinematics team, D3 still burns 50mil/year tops on the dev side. That's two weeks of WoW revenue. Which is my entire point - there is no entertainment product in the universe with WoW's margins, and even chipping away 10-15% at that base (which is not unlikely, especially if the online experience has any depth) is incredibly bad business. And, make no mistake, there is a ton of overlap between the two games in terms of the audience, and a limited amount of gaming time all but the most commited (and unemployed) nerds have.

    Funny, less and less people argue this point as the obviously intentional delays make it clearer, but I thank you for continuing to fight the good fight with manners.
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    posted a message on Anyone Else Feel Like Diablo 3 Development Lacks a Leader?
    Funny, you guys still don't get that this whole game is intentional. Cancel your WoW sub yet?

    One more time... a recurring 1.5 billion is better than a one-time 250 million, especially when the latter threatens the former.
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    posted a message on System Changes
    I thought that TL2 and D3 would at least have different mechanics, making for a different-feeling gameplay experience at the cores.

    With today's news, I guess that isn't the case. What's next? A permanent pet in D3?
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    posted a message on Real of Fake? D3 "interview"
    "coming weeks" = "targeting" = second quarter
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    posted a message on Book of Cain ruin D3 story for anyone?
    Ruin? Is that possible? Do you have similar anxieties when seeing a Michael Bay movie?
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