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    posted a message on New Demon Hunter set broken out of its mind?
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    Lol, no. It works just like Barbarian's HoTa (1% Critical chance for 5 fury you have). It's based on fury you actually have not the max value.


    It is written just exactly the same in New DH set so it probably works the same. 10% for each discipline you actually have,.

    Well then, let me quote Nevalistis:


    "Preparation (Punishment) was creating less than ideal gameplay by encouraging the conversion of Discipline to direct DPS. The byproduct of this was Demon Hunters frequently finding themselves without their defensive or utility skills, often resulting in more frequent character death."


    This new set encourages just that. While i agree with wudijo that striking a balance between offense and defense would add alot of depth, unless the entire meta of the game changes, the set as it is is inferior to M6 and will most likely not be used for anything serious.

    Blizzard's problem wasn't with Discipline interacting with DPS, but with the conversion of Discipline to DPS. It required spending a defensive resource to gain offensive ability. This set doesn't encourage or require that. While you do gain DPS from simply having Discipline, it doesn't affect the availability of the resource for defensive abilities.

    Less disc = less deeps = not using disc abilities for max deeps. It's the exact same concept, just spun in a different way.

    I appreciate your point but disagree. If you take a snapshot of a moment they look the same: I need to be defensive -> I use discipline to be defensive -> I lose DPS due to a lack of discipline. The difference comes in the moments before and after that snapshot. The baseline environment with the new set is max discipline. Max discipline also provides max defensive readiness. That moment, where you go defensive, is always available to you because discipline is always available to you. The old way's baseline environment was reduced readiness as it consistently reduced your available pool of discipline. You had reduced discipline and reduced defensive readiness.


    You could say they're the same thing, and I can absolutely understand that perspective. To do max DPS you had to not use defensive abilities. To do max DPS with the new set, you have to not use defensive abilities. That's a narrow look at a much bigger picture, I think. You didn't use defensive abilities with the old set because you couldn't, or your ability to was severely limited. If you needed to be defensive, you had to plan for it in advance, doing reduced DPS during that entire time. With the new set you choose not to use defensive abilities, but the ability to do so remains. You retain max DPS while also retaining max defensive capabilities.
    I guess the difference comes down to a reactive vs proactive defensive environment.
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    posted a message on New Demon Hunter set broken out of its mind?
    Quote from Tunafish»

    Quote from silvach»

    Lol, no. It works just like Barbarian's HoTa (1% Critical chance for 5 fury you have). It's based on fury you actually have not the max value.


    It is written just exactly the same in New DH set so it probably works the same. 10% for each discipline you actually have,.

    Well then, let me quote Nevalistis:


    "Preparation (Punishment) was creating less than ideal gameplay by encouraging the conversion of Discipline to direct DPS. The byproduct of this was Demon Hunters frequently finding themselves without their defensive or utility skills, often resulting in more frequent character death."


    This new set encourages just that. While i agree with wudijo that striking a balance between offense and defense would add alot of depth, unless the entire meta of the game changes, the set as it is is inferior to M6 and will most likely not be used for anything serious.

    Blizzard's problem wasn't with Discipline interacting with DPS, but with the conversion of Discipline to DPS. It required spending a defensive resource to gain offensive ability. This set doesn't encourage or require that. While you do gain DPS from simply having Discipline, it doesn't affect the availability of the resource for defensive abilities.

    Posted in: Demon Hunter: The Dreadlands
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