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I wouldn't also, it's just the idea of how strange it would be, seeing they left it aside for so long... Nostalgic would be the word to describe it.
I believe Magistrate is right, but I want to reinforce that the idea of announcement is just the simple proof the game is being worked on, very different to what Blizzcon is expected to show. At WWI, we're just hoping to have our wishes realised, with everyone saying: "Here's a teaser! But that's all you get from us now, bye!"; but only at Blizzcon we shall see clearly which way it's heading, through actual gameplay and more in-depth explanations.
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Personally I found the art choices ok, taking into account Nintendo did the same with TLoZ:WW and it was still a kick-ass game. I just hope they actually change some aspects of the art, especially when it comes to skeletons, just look at the artwork trailer and you can see they have a clear Warcraft essense to them, they don't look evil, as they did on the previous games and that is something which needs to be addressed asap. From the trailers I believe we all can see the game's potential and even though it's graphics are less-than-gothic, as long as they actually scare us with some of the major bosses' appearance, Blizzard will achieve one of its greatest games.
PS: What's this gaunlet thing?
PPS: Damn, Blizzard never ceases to amaze me with cinematics... ahh only if the game had that graphics...
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Back on topic, good job people, I'm sure now that D3 is announced, this forum will indeed be od much use to the senior members. Only hope one day I get accepted into it... lol
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Haha, you should have been used to it by now... you've been there for a good while I think. In any case, if no one volunteers, you're my first choice for mod there lol.
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Then there is that idea of monthly invitations, what do you think? I mean that's not to burocratize anything, but actually to keep a roughly constant numbers of additions to the forum, and also to give everyone else a little suspense every month. ><
Edit. I stand corrected by Elfen on th monthly invitations, thought it was just easier to give all the names to him once a month, keeping the amount of work relatively smaller during the rest of the month.
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Onto requirements: well personally I'd say 500 posts is ok, will take me some time to get there but oh well life's harsh anyway. Hm dunno if it's possible but could it be invitation only? I think it would be nice and not too hard for you mods if people were invited to this forum only once a month, so that there was plenty of time for the comitee to discuss on the members to be invited, etc.
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You're looking from the wrong point of view, it's not about ability to argue, it's about respecting others and learning how to join a discussion in the terms given by the people who were there before you, and respecting them.
Anyway if Elfen says the clan forum is the best thing he can do, I support it's creation. It will probably have a slow beginning but in time it will fulfill its potential. Just one reminder for those who will be joining, please try to use this clan forum just for hype-generated threads and news, the worst case scenario is that you'll stop posting on normal forums. Although I trust it won't happen, it's here just in case. ^^
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Firstly, I'd like to state that the idea is actually to segregate newcomers from senior members, and so, when I posted this idea, I was aware of how some people who are actually constructive argumenters would be left out because of how new they are. Well put this as a metaphor to life, when you're a child, even though you can be very interested and even slightly educated on some subjects, you simply cannot easily join an adult conversation on that subject. Usually the most you do is sit quiet and listen.
Secondly, date. Why did I choose that. You could take that same metaphor and use it again here, but that wasn't what came in my mind. First of all, I decided not to use post count because of spammers, eventually they would reach the requirement and simply be able to spoil the segregated forum. Also I did not mention the user group, well Elfen said it himself, it would just be too much work for the admins and mods. Anyway, password, yeah that's a possibility but eventually the members would feel like their responsability to invite new people to the forum and things could get messy there, no more needed to say on that. Finally date, why date? Well basically because I find the fairest way of all. When I wrote the 1 month age, I was putting a simbolic number, it could be an year or so, anything. The main idea is, hype spammers normally join only during these teaser times, and so they leave the community for some time. No one seemed to realise my other question was relevant to this. If there is an expiring date for an account, these spammers would be kept outside the forum permanently, given their older accounts have been deleted, on the other hand, the ones who were actually accepted and received by the community will now be more used to the rules and thus able to join on a more organised discussion at the Senior's Forum. This would also elimitate the problem with people who wished to be accepted, they will eventually, but they just need to show commitment to the community. Magistrate's idea on considering post count is good, but maybe that would need the reputation factor added to it, in order to balance out less constructive members from really good ones. Anyway that would be hard to be done though, so I stick with the idea that age is the most effective filter.
Reason for a separate forum: Phrozen has pretty much said it all. I hated this week because I think it would be so much more interesting to see some of the older member's interpretation on the teasers. Also the seniors would not be less involved to the forums. Visibility to the members was something I did not go into because making it a hidden forum would be slightly unfairer to the newer members, afterall they also want to know our ideas. Oh yeah, and of course, some senior member can always take something from the spammed commom forum which can be considered of relevance and post it on the more privative forum and vice-versa.
Well I can't get any more ideas at the moment, too tired, once I get back, I might post more and discuss this better with you.
PS. Damn it feels good to be responsible for a discussion of such proportion and involving so many recognised members...
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Anyway, my main point was actually creating a more exclusive forum for the older community to discuss the news (any news) without worrying about newcomers spamming around or any other intrusions. A password would be an idea, but then how would you select the people to tell without being unfair? Also, it would be a lot harder for the mods to make sure only members they approve are allowed to join, and if they did not do that, how would you prevent someone telling everyone else the passwords? The forum age filter was an idea just to prevent that, at the same time making sure that even though everyone would eventually be allowed to join, it would take long enough for them to prove they actually wish to be part of the community.
Oh yeah and actually I decided not to suggest using post numbers because anyone can go there and post lots of crap **spam**, also it would not be fair to those which hardly ever post, but are old members.
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No worries, I put a post in the site suggestion post, now we should just wait... meanwhile ill just wait a few hours and then, check if there was any progress here, otherwise tomorow is always (until tomorow) there with a new teaser...
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Maybe a section devoted to older members (a month or more).
This would at least help everyone who's a serious member to debate in times of flooding... not to mention it would almost certainly be less suceptive to bots and other kinds of spam... also, I don't know about this but is there a time limit for people who don't get online for some time to get online, otherwise getting their account deleted?
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None taken man, I also apologise for anything because as I was writing I began to put down some stuff which are directed to everyone, so I think it ended up a little more harsh than it should, so if you check I actually edited it a little in the end because that goes for everyone, so please don't take it personally lol. Yeah, you said what most of the true members of this forum feel at this moment, and we go the mods to thank for cleaning this up. So anyway I hope people read our posts at least to get the feeling of how forum members are affected by high trolling exposure...
PS. I'd like to suggest that there was some kind of separate forum for older members to discuss these teasers, etc where there was no risk of trolling.. dunno if its in the suggestions but I'll go look around and make a thread there just in case, thanks.
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Apparently not, these events are still held by Blizzard as a separate company, next year though, it may be another very different story.
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Lol sorry dude, but it's kinda hard remembering all the posts, and with such fast-paced increase on the numbers of pages, I'm sorry I didn't mention your post, and moreover it is usually a bad thing to bring up something written and left behind almost unnoticed. I only wrote that much because there was nothing more constructive to say at that moment.
Personally I can see the letters coming to POWNED with 2 days still to go (seen there mey be 2 updades on the last day). Anyway there were some interesting theories and the one which chame from the supposed Blizzard worker seems to be the best one so far about today's rune and the meaning of all this. At the moment, people are just going through the same arguments over and over again, and I (and most of the older members, especially those which have been here for even longer) see no reason to try and argue with you because, it seems that, as you said, people do not read, not because they can't, but because they don't want to, which is very understandable, seen the hype there is around. Just don't come complaining about a short post which was there only to congratulate on someone's find, and even if it was yours, you should feel congratulated too, no one here is stupid enough to think only one person can realise something. Finally, yes people see whatever they want in situations like this, everyone should expect that, and if anyone feels like not reading any of it, just don't mind it or get out.