Yes I did, works just as good as Paralysis! but since rorg is a must it is hard to fit in. But if you lack a soj/unity go for it and replace the paralysis passive with something else :-)
Hey there. Yes i basically still play the same spec. I was lucky and got a TF with cdr on it, so i could reroll the dmg to cold.
I actually had a hc build with that spec/gear and it worked very well in t3 without getting below 50%. Unfortunately a dc owned my 1. wiz and all vyr parts and rorg are gone
But on hc I suggest to use the passive that saves you once instead of unwavering will
Thanks for pointing out that it is bonuses /englishnoob was thinking of latin i guess ><
For the weapon discussion:
Imo Shard of Hate and Thunderfury, OS, Fulminator are great weapons with a good proc, BUT keep in mind, with only 20 seconds downtime on Archon we usualy have it up for every Elite/big group pack. I for myself spend the time without Archon grouping up/finding packs.
So what am I trying to say? I find myself using Born weapon most of the time. This weapon has only 1 downside for me: It comes with Holy damage.
I am still trying to make one with socket, cdr and int, so I could finally roll the dmg into high cold dmg. It is pretty hard to fit in the cold without using ice barrier (Frozen storm is awesome, but we loose loads of mitigation) -> but absolutely viable on everything below T6.
Also, it gives you so many more possibilities to get setbonuses :-) e.g. i finally found strongarm bracers, i can easily fit them in and keep vyr, tal, born and aughild bonus if I want to.
My fastest >solo< runs i currently achieve with: born weap, born shoulders, tal chest, tal source, tal amu, stormcrow (the fireball triggers tal aswell), strongarm, unity, rogr and belt (i keep switching between string, vigor and harrington depending on riftsetup/mobs) ... without blur
Unfortunately I cant always use this gearsetup. in t6-groupplay i rather loose dps for some survivability/utility -> i fit in aughild and strongarm
PS: I recorded some groupgameplay yday, will post and comment it as soon as i have time to. however, i am still not 100% happy with it (damn colddmg for EE ;))
Hey there. I already posted it on eu Forum, however I'd like to share with you aswell.
I am playing this spec/gear setup for several weeks now and i get more and more convinced that it is a great spec.
There might be some improvements, but i didn't have the opportunity to try yet (Damn Kadala, why you not dropping a electro wizhead! ;D)
This Guide is updated for 2.0.5
Here the guide in form of a video, with some in action scenes aswell:http://youtu.be/FXEM5Kjz8U8
Hey Folks! I decided to write my experiences with Lightning-Archon. Any suggestions and or improvements are welcome, please don’t be rude ;-)
NOTE: This is how It works well for me, I am sure there are 100 other possibilities Why lightning? Since Archon works with all elemental-types now, why not? If you happen to have a good lightning soj or necklace, give it a try. Further it synergizes very well with groupfarming, e.g. Tal-Set, certain Weapons like TF, Odyn… and the main reason for me is the Paralysis rune. Para procs so much, it makes things much easier on high torment. Combined with Black Hole we have a great CC-Setup.
______________________________________________________________ First of all I want to start with the skills.
I will post the “solo”build which I use for soloing rifts/bounties on T6. I might make a 2. Post focused on groupfarming (which works GREAT as lightning)
Build Magic Weapon: Force Weapon (Deflection optional)
Energy Armor: Prismatic Armor (Pinpoint optional)
Teleport: Safe Passage (Calamity optional)
Archon: all runes (Vyr)
Black Hole: Supermassive
Shock Pulse: Piercing Orb
Passives:
Evocation (must have!)
Paralysis (must have!)
Blur/Unwavering Will (Audacity/illusionist optional)
(Ele Exposure for groupfarming with 4 Set Tal combines (not for soloing))
Paragon: Max out CDR, Movement speed (to 25% in total), Life on hit, allres/life% first
Okay, we got the build we need, let’s take a look at the gear:
There are things you must have, some that are nice to have, and others which are pretty optional. I tried to keep the gear as easy to obtain as possible.
Let’s start with the “MUST HAVES”. Without those pieces you will most likely have troubles with the build on T6.
1. Ring of the Royal Grandeur – There is no way around this ring. We work a lot with setboni and therefore this needs to be equipped. The stats on it are not that important. Luckily this item is farmable. I know it might take weeks to get, but at least you know where it comes from
2. 3 Parts of Vyr – We build an Archon Wizard, therefore Vyr is the only possible choice. All 4 runes are awesome. It gives us so many things we want to have. Preferably you want these parts:
Hands / Pants / Boots – any other combination will work aswell though. Try to group up with wizards on t2-4 rifts, for loot share if u don’t have your vyr yet. ;-)
3. 2 Parts of Aughild – Aughild is great! it basically gives us ~20% dmg reduction and 15% to elite, which should not be underestimated. Even better, once you have the recipe you can easily farm the materials. Get the Bracers and Headpiece preferably.
4. 2 Parts of Born (or Cptn) – Well that is pretty obvious, CDR is our friend.. we love it, it is the best that can happen to us . For me it is definitely Borns over Cptn. The extra life% and Experience is great. Also, if you weren’t lucky enough to find an awesome weapon yet... there you go, simply craft one. We don’t have to farm those stupid Tsunami Blades anymore
It shouldn’t be too hard to get one with high basedmg + int + socket + cdr/%dmg
5. Lastly we want a decent 2. Ring – For soloing Unity on you+follower is definitely BiS, however I will proof in the video that it is not necessary. Alternative you want to have a decent lightning SOJ though.
Okay. Now we have a proper gear to start with. What next? Gear that is recommended, but not necessarily needed.
1. Belt – you have some options there. As lightning we have access to some extra lightningdmg as it comes with Thundergods Vigor. However, I can only handle T6 Solo using it, if I use Unity on follower Harrington is also a great dps boost and not too hard to obtain as alternative.
Personally, I really prefer String of Ears. Archon doesn’t require 1000000000 dps. We want as much mitigation as possible. If you use Unity and String, it will make it much easier. But it also works with soj then + we get a decent amount of extradmg on elites then. Lastly I want to mention Tal belt, in case we go for setbonus. Not going any further since I am focusing on solo here.
2. Amu – Again, some options. You want Eledmg, Int, Crit/(CDR),Critdmg. If you happen to get a good tal one, consider the 2+3 set for mitigation. 4 Set is nice to have, but more needed in groupplay to keep Ele Exposure up. Healing Amus are great aswell, but anything with the desired stats will do.
3. Source – Here again, some options to mention. It doesn’t matter much, which leg source you get, but you want it to have these stats, or as close as it gets:
High dmg+ Int+ CDR 8%, + Crit 10% (+ Vitality)
-Tal source is great, since it can come with all those stats. If we happen to get a belt or amu, it is nice to combine.
-Trium is also a choice, but keep in mind that the ele% takes 1 spot and so we have to give up Vitality. And usually you don’t want to give up Vitality on T6
-Cosmic Strand is great, but horrible to farm imo. Therefore it comes with 5 mainstats aswell, and the extra teleport is really nice to have.
If it has the stats mentioned above, go for it… it doesn’t really matter what source it is.
4. Weapon – Many choices, many possibilities.
We want. HIGH DAMAGE+ a socket, and intellect… optional we want CDR/Lightningdmg/%dmg/awesome legendary effects
- I personally love to use a highrolled TF with socket and %dmg (24xx area), but it is clearly not a must have. Alternatively (also in the video below) I just go for a Born with 10% CDR, high damage (~2.2k+ dps), int and socket. Using the Born weapon gives us either Chest or Shoulderslot for some other setbonus/good item.
- Optional Weapons: SoH, Odyn, TF, Sunkeeper, anything else with the most desired stats (good rolled)
Finally we have a list of gear and skills to use. But how do we combine it? And what stats do we want?
The answer to this question is pretty simple:
We want COOLDOWN-REDUCTION, damage mitigation and as much damage as we can get – in this order.
CDR: Our Vyr-Archon has 100 seconds Cooldown and lasts 20 seconds. 80 seconds downtime on the skill we are focusing on is clearly not desireable. CDR can be on many items, and we should stack as much as possible. We want CDR on: Hands 8%, Shoulders 8%, Source 8%, at least 1 Ring 8%, Diamond in Head 12,5%. If you have a good rolled weapon and 10% CDR, you can use it, but it is not ultimately needed
We DO NOT want CDR on Amulet (since it can roll high critdmg, crit%, int and ele dmg).
These items combined with Evocation and Born/Cptn setbonus bring us to around ~60% CDR. You should really aim for at least 60%, it makes things much easier. 56% is acceptable, below is bad.
60% cdr means 20 seconds downtime on Archon and only 5 seconds CD on Black Hole and Teleport.
Means we can have 24% dmg reduction from Safe Passage all the time, even without Illusionist (unless we are in Archon)
Dmg mitigation:
Blizzard gave us several options to reduce the damage taken. I don’t go into detail, but we want as many as we can get. I personally prefer to facetank instead of running like a chicken all the time. Therefor i have 13kk toughness without armor/talent.
How do we get so much toughness? It is not too hard at all.
Look out for those stats: Vitality, Allres, Armor, dmg taken reduced from melee/ranged, dmg taken reduced from elites,intellect (gives allres).
We already get a decent amount of mitigation from Aughild and Born.
We don’t want to have skilldmg on gear, cause we are in Archon most of the time anyways. instead aim for vit, %life, armor, allres.
I figured it is great to have Vitality on Helmet and Source, since it can roll up to 750 (which is A LOT). Vitality on Source is often underestimated, you want it- go for it!
Then we have 2 options:
1. Unity on yourself and on (your immortal) follower
2. String of ears belt. Minus ~30% damage from melee damage taken, that is a lot- try it
Damage:
We want: High weapon/source damage, high intellect, a fair amount of crit%, critdmg and of course dmg vs elites + elemental (lightning damage).
Critdmg should always be around 10x higher than your critchance to benefit the most.
E.g.: 45% CritChance, go for 450% Critdmg. We want maximum Lightning elemental damage on the Necklace and Bracers. Wand/Source/SOJ/Thundergods is optional. We get some additional Elite damage from the Setbonus and Unity/SOJ
Gear you want to have (no must ofc) in your bag all the time:
- Healing amus (I only use them on riftbosses ... <3 Ghom+Maras)
- Bracers: Trag-Ouls (reset archon cd if u see a well and its needed); Shrine bracers
- Harrington (certain rifts where u know there are 1000 clickable things)
- Iceclimbers (Riftboss that spams the icethingy)
Playstyle:
Well, Archon playstyle isn’t really hard to explain. Use it whenever it is off cooldown. Try to gather a lot of mobs around you b4 you use it. When it is on CD survive with Teleport, Black-Hole and Piercing Orb. While you do that, you can already go search for the next big pack since paralysis and black hole keep the mobs away from you most of the time. If you can handle and mobs are clumped up use the Melee-Archon ability. Also Archon Teleport is a great way to move around fast!
Lastly my personal gearlist:
Budget: Born Weapon+Shoulders, Vyr Hands+Boots+Pants, Aughild Head+Bracers, RoRG, SOJ, String of Ears belt, Amu with eledmg,crit,crtdmg, int, Any source with int+vit+crit+cdr
The gear I use for this build atm: TF, Tal source+amu, Aughild head+bracer, Born chest+shoulder, String of ears, Soj,Rorg, Vyr hands+boots+pants
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I can get 53/54 keys, but then i hit a ceiling.
spec: full dmg dual hydra with ancient SS
core item is the S3 bracers to keep them grouped in middle imo.
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After the depressing ptr start I decided to write down my suggestions. Maybe blizzard gets inspired or something.
If you also want more changes pls like/comment here:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13271627123
It's only focused on firebird, lightning and cold.
greetings Scrya
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greetings
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I actually had a hc build with that spec/gear and it worked very well in t3 without getting below 50%. Unfortunately a dc owned my 1. wiz and all vyr parts and rorg are gone
But on hc I suggest to use the passive that saves you once instead of unwavering will
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http://youtu.be/OsxstX-J9mI
Have a nice day! ;-)
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Scryaa-2773/hero/681702
There you go.
Thanks for pointing out that it is bonuses /englishnoob was thinking of latin i guess ><
For the weapon discussion:
Imo Shard of Hate and Thunderfury, OS, Fulminator are great weapons with a good proc, BUT keep in mind, with only 20 seconds downtime on Archon we usualy have it up for every Elite/big group pack. I for myself spend the time without Archon grouping up/finding packs.
So what am I trying to say? I find myself using Born weapon most of the time. This weapon has only 1 downside for me: It comes with Holy damage.
I am still trying to make one with socket, cdr and int, so I could finally roll the dmg into high cold dmg. It is pretty hard to fit in the cold without using ice barrier (Frozen storm is awesome, but we loose loads of mitigation) -> but absolutely viable on everything below T6.
Also, it gives you so many more possibilities to get setbonuses :-) e.g. i finally found strongarm bracers, i can easily fit them in and keep vyr, tal, born and aughild bonus if I want to.
My fastest >solo< runs i currently achieve with: born weap, born shoulders, tal chest, tal source, tal amu, stormcrow (the fireball triggers tal aswell), strongarm, unity, rogr and belt (i keep switching between string, vigor and harrington depending on riftsetup/mobs) ... without blur
Unfortunately I cant always use this gearsetup. in t6-groupplay i rather loose dps for some survivability/utility -> i fit in aughild and strongarm
PS: I recorded some groupgameplay yday, will post and comment it as soon as i have time to. however, i am still not 100% happy with it (damn colddmg for EE ;))
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I am playing this spec/gear setup for several weeks now and i get more and more convinced that it is a great spec.
There might be some improvements, but i didn't have the opportunity to try yet (Damn Kadala, why you not dropping a electro wizhead! ;D)
This Guide is updated for 2.0.5
Here the guide in form of a video, with some in action scenes aswell: http://youtu.be/FXEM5Kjz8U8
Hey Folks! I decided to write my experiences with Lightning-Archon. Any suggestions and or improvements are welcome, please don’t be rude ;-)
(Update: Groupplay based in solo guide here:http://youtu.be/OsxstX-J9mI)
NOTE: This is how It works well for me, I am sure there are 100 other possibilities
Why lightning? Since Archon works with all elemental-types now, why not? If you happen to have a good lightning soj or necklace, give it a try. Further it synergizes very well with groupfarming, e.g. Tal-Set, certain Weapons like TF, Odyn… and the main reason for me is the Paralysis rune. Para procs so much, it makes things much easier on high torment. Combined with Black Hole we have a great CC-Setup.
______________________________________________________________
First of all I want to start with the skills.
I will post the “solo”build which I use for soloing rifts/bounties on T6. I might make a 2. Post focused on groupfarming (which works GREAT as lightning)
Build Magic Weapon: Force Weapon (Deflection optional)
Energy Armor: Prismatic Armor (Pinpoint optional)
Teleport: Safe Passage (Calamity optional)
Archon: all runes (Vyr)
Black Hole: Supermassive
Shock Pulse: Piercing Orb
Passives:
Evocation (must have!)
Paralysis (must have!)
Blur/Unwavering Will (Audacity/illusionist optional)
(Ele Exposure for groupfarming with 4 Set Tal combines (not for soloing))
Paragon: Max out CDR, Movement speed (to 25% in total), Life on hit, allres/life% first
Okay, we got the build we need, let’s take a look at the gear:
There are things you must have, some that are nice to have, and others which are pretty optional. I tried to keep the gear as easy to obtain as possible.
Let’s start with the “MUST HAVES”. Without those pieces you will most likely have troubles with the build on T6.
1. Ring of the Royal Grandeur – There is no way around this ring. We work a lot with setboni and therefore this needs to be equipped. The stats on it are not that important. Luckily this item is farmable. I know it might take weeks to get, but at least you know where it comes from
2. 3 Parts of Vyr – We build an Archon Wizard, therefore Vyr is the only possible choice. All 4 runes are awesome. It gives us so many things we want to have. Preferably you want these parts:
Hands / Pants / Boots – any other combination will work aswell though. Try to group up with wizards on t2-4 rifts, for loot share if u don’t have your vyr yet. ;-)
3. 2 Parts of Aughild – Aughild is great! it basically gives us ~20% dmg reduction and 15% to elite, which should not be underestimated. Even better, once you have the recipe you can easily farm the materials. Get the Bracers and Headpiece preferably.
4. 2 Parts of Born (or Cptn) – Well that is pretty obvious, CDR is our friend.. we love it, it is the best that can happen to us . For me it is definitely Borns over Cptn. The extra life% and Experience is great. Also, if you weren’t lucky enough to find an awesome weapon yet... there you go, simply craft one. We don’t have to farm those stupid Tsunami Blades anymore
It shouldn’t be too hard to get one with high basedmg + int + socket + cdr/%dmg
5. Lastly we want a decent 2. Ring – For soloing Unity on you+follower is definitely BiS, however I will proof in the video that it is not necessary. Alternative you want to have a decent lightning SOJ though.
Okay. Now we have a proper gear to start with. What next?
Gear that is recommended, but not necessarily needed.
1. Belt – you have some options there. As lightning we have access to some extra lightningdmg as it comes with Thundergods Vigor. However, I can only handle T6 Solo using it, if I use Unity on follower
Personally, I really prefer String of Ears. Archon doesn’t require 1000000000 dps. We want as much mitigation as possible. If you use Unity and String, it will make it much easier. But it also works with soj then + we get a decent amount of extradmg on elites then. Lastly I want to mention Tal belt, in case we go for setbonus. Not going any further since I am focusing on solo here.
2. Amu – Again, some options. You want Eledmg, Int, Crit/(CDR),Critdmg. If you happen to get a good tal one, consider the 2+3 set for mitigation. 4 Set is nice to have, but more needed in groupplay to keep Ele Exposure up. Healing Amus are great aswell, but anything with the desired stats will do.
3. Source – Here again, some options to mention. It doesn’t matter much, which leg source you get, but you want it to have these stats, or as close as it gets:
High dmg+ Int+ CDR 8%, + Crit 10% (+ Vitality)
-Tal source is great, since it can come with all those stats. If we happen to get a belt or amu, it is nice to combine.
-Trium is also a choice, but keep in mind that the ele% takes 1 spot and so we have to give up Vitality. And usually you don’t want to give up Vitality on T6
-Cosmic Strand is great, but horrible to farm imo. Therefore it comes with 5 mainstats aswell, and the extra teleport is really nice to have.
If it has the stats mentioned above, go for it… it doesn’t really matter what source it is.
4. Weapon – Many choices, many possibilities.
We want. HIGH DAMAGE+ a socket, and intellect… optional we want CDR/Lightningdmg/%dmg/awesome legendary effects
- I personally love to use a highrolled TF with socket and %dmg (24xx area), but it is clearly not a must have. Alternatively (also in the video below) I just go for a Born with 10% CDR, high damage (~2.2k+ dps), int and socket. Using the Born weapon gives us either Chest or Shoulderslot for some other setbonus/good item.
- Optional Weapons: SoH, Odyn, TF, Sunkeeper, anything else with the most desired stats (good rolled)
Finally we have a list of gear and skills to use. But how do we combine it? And what stats do we want?
The answer to this question is pretty simple:
We want COOLDOWN-REDUCTION, damage mitigation and as much damage as we can get – in this order.
CDR: Our Vyr-Archon has 100 seconds Cooldown and lasts 20 seconds. 80 seconds downtime on the skill we are focusing on is clearly not desireable. CDR can be on many items, and we should stack as much as possible.
We want CDR on: Hands 8%, Shoulders 8%, Source 8%, at least 1 Ring 8%, Diamond in Head 12,5%. If you have a good rolled weapon and 10% CDR, you can use it, but it is not ultimately needed
We DO NOT want CDR on Amulet (since it can roll high critdmg, crit%, int and ele dmg).
These items combined with Evocation and Born/Cptn setbonus bring us to around ~60% CDR. You should really aim for at least 60%, it makes things much easier. 56% is acceptable, below is bad.
60% cdr means 20 seconds downtime on Archon and only 5 seconds CD on Black Hole and Teleport.
Means we can have 24% dmg reduction from Safe Passage all the time, even without Illusionist (unless we are in Archon)
Dmg mitigation:
Blizzard gave us several options to reduce the damage taken. I don’t go into detail, but we want as many as we can get. I personally prefer to facetank instead of running like a chicken all the time. Therefor i have 13kk toughness without armor/talent.
How do we get so much toughness? It is not too hard at all.
Look out for those stats: Vitality, Allres, Armor, dmg taken reduced from melee/ranged, dmg taken reduced from elites,intellect (gives allres).
We already get a decent amount of mitigation from Aughild and Born.
We don’t want to have skilldmg on gear, cause we are in Archon most of the time anyways. instead aim for vit, %life, armor, allres.
I figured it is great to have Vitality on Helmet and Source, since it can roll up to 750 (which is A LOT). Vitality on Source is often underestimated, you want it- go for it!
Then we have 2 options:
1. Unity on yourself and on (your immortal) follower
2. String of ears belt. Minus ~30% damage from melee damage taken, that is a lot- try it
Damage:
We want: High weapon/source damage, high intellect, a fair amount of crit%, critdmg and of course dmg vs elites + elemental (lightning damage).
Critdmg should always be around 10x higher than your critchance to benefit the most.
E.g.: 45% CritChance, go for 450% Critdmg. We want maximum Lightning elemental damage on the Necklace and Bracers. Wand/Source/SOJ/Thundergods is optional. We get some additional Elite damage from the Setbonus and Unity/SOJ
Gear you want to have (no must ofc) in your bag all the time:
- Healing amus (I only use them on riftbosses ... <3 Ghom+Maras)
- Bracers: Trag-Ouls (reset archon cd if u see a well and its needed); Shrine bracers
- Harrington (certain rifts where u know there are 1000 clickable things)
- Iceclimbers (Riftboss that spams the icethingy)
Playstyle:
Well, Archon playstyle isn’t really hard to explain. Use it whenever it is off cooldown. Try to gather a lot of mobs around you b4 you use it. When it is on CD survive with Teleport, Black-Hole and Piercing Orb. While you do that, you can already go search for the next big pack since paralysis and black hole keep the mobs away from you most of the time. If you can handle and mobs are clumped up use the Melee-Archon ability. Also Archon Teleport is a great way to move around fast!
Lastly my personal gearlist:
Budget: Born Weapon+Shoulders, Vyr Hands+Boots+Pants, Aughild Head+Bracers, RoRG, SOJ, String of Ears belt, Amu with eledmg,crit,crtdmg, int, Any source with int+vit+crit+cdr
The gear I use for this build atm: TF, Tal source+amu, Aughild head+bracer, Born chest+shoulder, String of ears, Soj,Rorg, Vyr hands+boots+pants
TL;DR:
Watch the video
PS:
Some more gameplay Videos (T6 Solorifts) here:
http://youtu.be/ws_qfUk5PLs
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MYEdHcIiSM4