I'm not sure I follow your logic. I think I know what you would like, but this sentence, coupled with most of your post, sounds like wishful thinking.
This is 2017 and Blizzard have a great advertising team. If you intend to bring "solid updates" for a game or product, you don't miss the chance to do so with the 20th anniversary of one of the greatest gaming hits ever.
Sorry, but that is the plain truth. After all, the "redesign" of D1, the "redesign" of the necro, is nothing new. It's grabbing from the previous game and adapting. That doesn't sound like the work of a team in 1 year.
I would like to ask those of you who are positive (I wish I was!): what do you think that the d3 team has been doing for the last 2 years? Cause what has been announced and/or implemented to the game doesn't justify their paychecks.
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While I agree with the "meh" appreciation, v2.0 is just beyond worse.
Intent is to provide back the "Oh Shit!" feeling when something really good dropped, at the beginning of the game and in other Diablo games.
v2.0, as openly expressed by hundreds of people, gives no feeling of advancement at all
2-3 Greater rifts in a 2k char is too low, but it is something to aim for.
Power creep is not something to fear of. It would be better if they wanted to provide a new gameplay system, but you know they've had the runes option there since ever, and they just don't want to do it. So, if power creep is the only thing we can get, at least is better than nothing.
About botting, it's no longer the issue it once was. And it shouldn't be preventing players from receiving new stuff.
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Strongly disagree. Of course mainstat has a point in overall performance, as it should; but you said that nearly 100% of what brings a player to the leaderboards is stat / gear.
That is 100% wrong, and any player in the top 100 on any leaderboard will verify it. Player performance is the highest factor, by far.
Honestly, my personal opinion is that your points sound quite like an excuse for someone who wants the game to be completely casual. LoL- HOTA mode on.
Log in and be able to compete in equal playground with someone who has gotten 4k paragon while you made it to paragon 600 in your 2-hours a week schedule. Not gonna happen in D3. It never happened in D2 either , or any ARPG for what it takes.
Clearly I want an ARPG where progress and time invested do matter, while your approach sounds like a MOBA-shooter type of game.
Competition does matter. But so does playing incentive. And power creep IS an incentive.
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What are you considering endless? the legendary-ancient step? The paragon system?
Game is stagnating, that is very hard to argue against.
Seasonal rewards aren't enough to keep the interest. And plenty of players (myself included) have recently finished their maximum stash tabs allowance, even after missing 1 or 2 seasons.
No matter that you like it or not, game needs to provide incentives to those who spend more time on it; this ain't a Call of Duty game - We don't need or want to be clones of each other with same stats; if you wanna compete, just play enough to compete. Big names always manage to make great results with lower paragon.
The intent of reducing power-creep has been one of the reasons for the streamers to leave for greener pastures. They want a game where knowing about the game and investing time has real benefits. And , nowadays, streamers-elite players-competition are a big point of attracting new players to a game.
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And it is the last screwing on a huge list of fuck-ups by blizzard to the Diablo playerbase.
We are angry at this point, more than annoyed or upset. That's the mood that they have provoked on me, and plenty of other users in this forum and the official diablo forums.
2) Who told you I cannot wait until friday? Moreover, why do you feel like you can tell me to wait or not? there's no need of more Blizzard White knights in this forum. Go peel your knees somewhere else please; we are pissed off, and rightfully angry. Where have you been on the last 2 years of crap¿?
3) Your "blizzard 100% won't do X cause no-go" is another statement based on nothing. Why don't you stop trying to excuse them on every fuck up?
At this point if you are a diablo fan, and you are not angry, there's something seriously wrong with you. I can't undertand you fanbois.
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Apparently the patch is already live on xbox.
Blizzard always finds a way to fuck with us.
Now, consoles getting the patchbefore PC.
Fuck them all. I hope they all get fired. They are making fun of us.
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So true. But another fact of human psychology is that we show flock behaviors. If there are people at a bar, we wanna go in, just because "there are a lot of folks there". Exactly the same fact happen when translated to games. We play what most people play, cause most people can't be wrong.
Implications of this are clear regarding the amount of money brought to the game (directly through game sales; and indirectly trough non-monetary assets like advertising or market-shares) and the interest of the publisher in adding content to the game.
I feel like we are a crowd at the door of a cake shop. The products we have been given for the last two years were repulsive, disgusting, a terrible aftertaste. But we are still begging them to give us something....anything, cause we remember how good that cake was 20 years ago.
We are willing to throw them our money. I think and feel that we REALLY are. That's a incredibly good business situation for them.
But they don't give us anything. Why should they? There's Hearthstone with 10 devs making 5 times as much money. That's what they want, after all.
This is the first time I see you not blindly praising Blizzard. It's a big step for you!
Progress comes from dissatisfaction more often that not.
One fact I would like to bring to this discussion is the huge value drop of ACTI shares on the last 3 months.
Since Blizzcon, pretty much.
There are a lot of factors more involved(absolutely!) but a 15% decline is huge beyond belief and heads have been cut in most firms for much less.
There was never a Blizzcon so dull:
No new expansion or new game on anything? (Ignoring HS...2 people can design 50 new cards, for god's sake)
Gamer reactions have been overwhelmingly negative ( as expected) and Blizzard games sales have declined massively, possibly as a reaction to it.
I can't believe they didn't foresee this. If they have a plan, better be a good one, cause their shareholders aren't exactly happy with them.
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What were we getting into?
Lots of people have played d2 daily for years . It was never meant to be a casual-only fest.
The fact that people have to step away from it is the main reason for its terrible current status. No playerbase - no revenue nor dev team - dead game.
This is not a Steam game. This is the last iteration of a 20 years-old amazing franchise.
The fact that you enjoy your "casual" playing, does not mean that the rest of us enjoy it. And thing is, casuals aren't exactly willing to spend bucks on the franchise. While others might.
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And what if we don't wanna take a break?
So you are casual. You play each season for a week and stop for 4 months. Great, if it works for you.
But what happens to those of us that want to keep playing?? Why are we being forced to do as you say? Are we telling you how you should play?
You can tell that a game is DEAD AS FUCK when "game switchers" advise "dedicated players" to take a break. /facepalm
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This thread is turning into a casual / hardcore contest.
For those saying that the game has no subscription, etc....the problem is that we want to pay. Ridiculous, ain't it?
Well, a lot of people I've talked with and myself would be more than willing to pay for an expansion, a subscription, anything NEW. But blizzard has decided that they would be good with bringing nothing new in 1 year, and then take another year in rehashing some skills and animations from d2.
In the end, it all turns out that you can either be a white knight (we know who is in this forum) , a casual / game switcher or a hardcore /dedicated /focused player. For those that belong in the third section, there's nothing left in d3.
This is no Steam game. For us, Diablo is one of the most important gaming IPs ever. And, even acknowledging that the opinion of those who got to the franchise in 2015 is as important as ours, we care about it more deeply. It is sad and frustrating.
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Even considering that saying this can bring a lot of flaming to me, no trading killed it completely.
Granted, it made RMT flourish. But it was core for the diablo experience. Claiming that the horrible itemization or the drop rate were due to the AH is plainly lying or buying their crap. Fortunately, most diablo fans readers are mature enough to see through that crap.
I happened to enjoy it. Now that we are swimming in brown and green rays when playing, does it make your experience more enjoyable? Not mine.
And we should consider that most of the ones left here are those who didn't like trading. The ones that did, or most of us, switched games when decisions were taken; because trading was that important to us.
Apart from that, the unbearable slowness of development is a main reason for me, which isn't covered in your options.
Who is gonna play a game when you know that nothing new -or worth that adjective- is coming in a year?
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What I am afraid, as previously stated, is that supporting this kind of content has the opposite effect to what we fans would like.
If we pay for the Necro DLC, that means we like that sort of product-business model.
But, what about the share of the playerbase that wants a different type of product? Let's call it a real expansion, with an adequate price and new content ? Should we support the dev team when we don't like the approach Blizz is taking? That's a hard call.
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Follow your own advise. There had been lots of people in this forum who have asked you to stop posting your crap.
In every thread you appear, you seem to insult whoever doesn't share your opinion.
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So, we should blame Activision Blizzard , but not the Dev Team. They do as much as they can.
That could be true. But let's see how this works out: (made-up numbers)
Necro DLC. (1 class-2 stash - a pet.) 20-25 $.
2 million people buy it. totalling 40-50 million $.
Is it gonna be the Dev team who is gonna receive it for, as you told, using the resources to work at a better pace?
Or is it gonna be Activision Blizzard getting the cash, who ,then, is gonna invest this money in OW and WOW because their Return of Investment is better?
See what I did here? If we don't protest with our wallets, we are accepting the situation. Or even prolonging it, making it harder to solve.
Abut NO CONTENT hyperbole: Yeah, no content is an exaggeration. But reusing old skills, adapting d2 old models and animations to d3..., there's nothing NEW in here. Reused aint new. Content , following your logic, would be changing all skill coefficients; rendering old builds useless, creating new ones. Reusing.
What I call content is NEW CONTENT. And in over a year , there's been none.
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As much as I agree with certain parts of your comments, and I can relate to that and emphasize with the devs, this have a different conclusion.
Due to D3 being multi-plattform, and Blizz-made, we normal PC users of the game won't be receiving content at all, or if ever, in a really slow pace.
Is that what you are implying? I had thought that Blizz had tenfold, or a hundred fold or more the money that the Small companies have. Therefore, they can and should invest in their games with as much dedicated staff as necessary, am I wrong? Shouldn't that offset the "big company" bureaucracy?
Things doesn't make sense, when we consider that the d3 team is pretty small right now. That seems to be a consensus, tbh. And when a good dev shows interest or simply excels (see John Yang), he is "transferred" or promoted to the important part. Namely Wow.
No way, mate. And we, as a playerbase, should accept that and deal with it?
You can do what you want, of course. I will vote with my wallet, since that is their only language nowadays.
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True. Some people will be happy with whatever is fed to them. Others will feel entitled to more, not because they have paid for it, but because they LOVE the franchise and would love to see new heights. Even if paying more was necesary.
Demon, the Dev team is not in a no win situation. My personal opinion is that they are misguided. That's the only way I can understand Nev (love her, she really has a passion) answering "Rekt" to people asking for new content in the game, after giving NO NEW content at all.
They want WIN? Seriously, not that hard. A small as fuck act 6. Insert the Necro with stitches in there. Put in some class, skills and sets balance (like it was given for free in 2.4) , and you have yourself 3.0. All is shiny as fuck for another couple of years.
But the key to that is content. Not reused, new content. Not reused, new classes. NEW .
This is important to remark: content is what makes a game playable and re-playable. Sets tuning and overall class balance is important, but imho secondary to "having something new to do", or in a words that Blizzard could appreciate more, "have some kind of competition".
And, as talked to exhaustion, D3 core flaws with the infinite paragon and the level 120 ++ gems create an unending playing field, and a new player will never ever be able to compete with a paragon 3000 with all gems 100+. That is a Loss-Loss situation. No new blood in greater rift competition--->prOs leave (see Quin). But the new blood cannot compete due to paragon and gems.