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Hard to say, by the time of Diablo II and LOD, the Horadrim has disbanded, and the mage clans have once again adopted their old ways, yet the Zakarum retains it's sense of order and structure, even in the East.
Good point.
So does anyone have anything against the Zakarum choice? If you do, say so, and why.
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The Specter 0-0 The Zakarumite 1-9 The Faithful 10-49 The Zealot 50-199 The Sexton 200-499 The Cantor 500-999 The Hierophant 1000-1499 The Council Member 1500-1999 The High Council Member 2000-2999 The Que-Hagan 3000-4999 The Ancient 5000-7999 The Nephalem 8000+
Human Ranks 1
The Specter 0
The Villager 1-9
The Town Crier 10-49
The Mercenary 50-199
The Warrior 200-499
The Lord 500-999
The Duke 1000-1499
The Count 1500-1999
The Horadrim 2000-2999
The Edyrem 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Human Ranks 2
Specter 0 Serf 1-9 Villager 10-24 Militia 25-49 Man at Arms 50-99 Swordsman 100-199 The Knight 200-499 The Knight of the Realm 500-999 The Knight of the Order of the Dragon 1000-1499 The Conjurer 1500-1999 The Hero 2000-2999 The Hero of Khanduras 3000-4499 Trag'Ouls Right Hand 4500+
Current Ranks
The Peasant 0-9
The Squire 10-49
The Man at Arms 50-199
The Knight 200-499
The Knight of the Realm 500-999
The Knight of the Order 1000-1499
The Cavalier 1500-1999
The Paladin 2000-2999
The Emmisary of the Gods 3000+
Do we have nay other organizations which could be represented? Or are there any other suggestions that could be created? Perhaps a combination of Horadrim Necromanercs, Sorecresses etc? I don't know, I'm just asking, are there any other suggestions which are at least based off of something in Sanctuary that makes sense?
And more important, do we have any improvements to the already suggested ranks? (Such as the Horadrim one, I really don't think we should pick that one as it is.)
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Lol sorry, I was posting that while you posted yours, so I didn't see it. I also didn't see your trimmed down list, which I also agree with. I was just sorting out Elfen's list.
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There should be two, maybe even three polls. One for the rank titles, and one for the rank layout, and maybe one for the rank icons.
Definately three, but the last two should remain for later. First we need to decide on the titles.
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Title Names:
Option 1 Hell Ranks
The Specter 0
The Fiend 1-9
The Tainted 10-49
The Dark Soul 50-199
The Undead Horror 200-499
The Abyss Knight 500-999
The Butcher 1000-1499
The Pit Lord 1500-1999
The Devil's Advocate 2000-2999
The Warlord of Blood 3000-4999
The Lord of Terror 5000-7999
The Harbinger of Doom 8000+
Option 2 The Zakarum ranks
The Specter 0-0 The Zakarumite 1-9 The Faithful 10-49 The Zealot 50-199 The Sexton 200-499 The Cantor 500-999 The Hierophant 1000-1499 The Council Member 1500-1999 The High Council Member 2000-2999 The Que-Hagan 3000-4999 The Ancient 5000-7999 The Nephalem 8000+
Option 3 Human Ranks
The Specter 0
The Villager 1-9
The Town Crier 10-49
The Mercenary 50-199
The Warrior 200-499
The Lord 500-999
The Duke 1000-1499
The Count 1500-1999
The Horadrim 2000-2999
The Edyrem 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Option 4 Hell Ranks
The Fallen 0-9
The Sinner 10-49
The Minion 50-199
The Carver 200-499
The Ravager 500-999
The Prowler 1000-1499
The Butcher 1500-1999
The Overseer 2000-2999
The Lord of Terror 3000+
More Evil than Evil itself 5000+
Option 5 Neutral Ranks
Specter 0 Serf 1-9 Villager 10-24 Militia 25-49 Man at Arms 50-99 Swordsman 100-199 The Knight 200-499 The Knight of the Realm 500-999 The Knight of the Order of the Dragon 1000-1499 The Conjurer 1500-1999 The Hero 2000-2999 The Hero of Khanduras 3000-4499 Trag'Ouls Right Hand 4500+
Option 6 Hell - Human - Heaven Ranks
lesser demon
demon
peasent
knight
king (ruler)
high sorcerer
angel
angris council
order of trag oul
Option 7 Other ranks
0-0 The newborn 1-9 The bandit 10-49 The harbinger 50-199 The warrior 200-499 The messiah 500-999 The Pyromancer 1000-1499 The elemental 1500-1999 The ancient Advisor 2000-2999 The magi of light 3000-4999 Defender of the souls 5000-7999 The holy Exterminator 8000+ The immortal Annihilator
Option 8 (the list as it currently stands)
The Peasant 0-9
The Squire 10-49
The Man at Arms 50-199
The Knight 200-499
The Knight of the Realm 500-999
The Knight of the Order 1000-1499
The Cavalier 1500-1999
The Paladin 2000-2999
The Emmisary of the Gods 3000+
Oh. So my Horadrim suggestion wasn't good enough?
8 is still too many. I'm thinking three or perhaps four max. That way we can actually get a decent turnout on a voting.
And we need to decide what ranks to include in that poll. So at least remove option 6&7, they don't make any sense at all and have no basis in Diablo.
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The Specter 0-0 The Zakarumite 1-9 The Faithful 10-49 The Zealot 50-199 The Sexton 200-499 The Cantor 500-999 The Hierophant 1000-1499 The Council Member 1500-1999 The High Council Member 2000-2999 The Que-Hagan 3000-4999 The Ancient 5000-7999 The Nephalem 8000+
Option 12
The Specter 0
The Villager 1-9
The Town Crier 10-49
The Mercenary 50-199
The Warrior 200-499
The Lord 500-999
The Duke 1000-1499
The Count 1500-1999
The Horadrim 2000-2999
The Edyrem 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Option 14
Specter 0 Serf 1-9 Villager 10-24 Militia 25-49 Man at Arms 50-99 Swordsman 100-199 The Knight 200-499 The Knight of the Realm 500-999 The Knight of the Order of the Dragon 1000-1499 The Conjurer 1500-1999 The Hero 2000-2999 The Hero of Khanduras 3000-4499 Trag'Ouls Right Hand 4500+
and lastly, Option 17 (the list as it currently stands)
The Peasant 0-9
The Squire 10-49
The Man at Arms 50-199
The Knight 200-499
The Knight of the Realm 500-999
The Knight of the Order 1000-1499
The Cavalier 1500-1999
The Paladin 2000-2999
The Emmisary of the Gods 3000+
These are the only ones I find to be acceptable that fulful the requirent of actually fitting with the Diablo Unvierse. And the last one is the current one, so that leaves us with the Zakarum suggestion and two more classical ones.
I vote for the Zakarum one. It's unique, no other site will have it, it has its roots in the Diablo lore, and it sounds really good. Up until this point, it is also the only human organization we know of with this many possible ranks. Another would be to do a Horadrim kind of deal, something like this perhaps:
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It, like decapitalising the "The" wouldn't realy be a seperate option as it would be using another list.
Oki.
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Some are largely the same, or prehaps better saved for a secondary poll or discussion. Many of the option for example all use the Zakarum titles.
Then how about removing some now? I don't mean to insult anyone, but some suggestions I think are out of the question.
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I agree. However you and I would be honorary Nephalem, as mod and an admin respectfully, our stati void us of the title of Nephalem. At least initially, we can decide to make a custom title Nephalem, our user names are colour coded to denote our status.
I just like to have it as the final one, that's all. I think it really fits with the new development of the Diablo storyline that's come in the last year
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We need to cut down the options until we vote, 17 is way too many. I like the Zakarum ones the most as of now.
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I'm testing out the icon in my avatar. I like it.
Note that it is part of my avatar. I manually put it in there.
Well, personally I think there's too much space in between your name, icon and avatar, but that might just be me.
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slightly edited zakarum list of what i think the icons should be. maybe its too late for this but oh well.
edit: I also changed the numbers for specter because i dont see the point in making a icon for 0-0posts
The Specter 1-3
The Zakarumite 4-9
The Faithful 10-49
The Zealot 50-199
The Sexton 200-499
The Cantor 500-999
The Hierophant 1000-1499
The Council Member 1500-1999
The High Council Member 2000-2999
The Que-Hagan 3000-4999
The Ancient 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
This makes no sense. The Que-hagan is one man at all times. But lots of people will have that rank at the same time. What's more is that the following two ranks aren't really connected to the Zakarum church per se. It just doesn't make very much sense to me to have Ancient and Nephalem as the final two in combination with the other ranks.
I'm not being very positive am I?
Option2
Option 3
One of these two in my opinion.
Option 10
The Specter 0
The Fiend 1-9
The Tainted 10-49
The Dark Soul 50-199
The Undead Horror 200-499
The Abyss Knight 500-999
The Butcher 1000-1499
The Pit Lord 1500-1999
The Devil's Advocate 2000-2999
The Warlord of Blood 3000-4999
The Lord of Terror 5000-7999
The Harbinger of Doom 8000+
makes no sense at all. Devil's advocate all of a sudden, then you become the Lord of Terror? No thanks.
Option 11 The Specter 0-0 The Zakarumite 1-9 The Faithful 10-49
The Zealot 50-199
The Sexton 200-499
The Cantor 500-999
The Hierophant 1000-1499
The Council Member 1500-1999
The High Council Member 2000-2999
The Que-Hagan 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
I like the quest icons better than the skill icons, at least I think they fit the titles a whole lot better.
Option 12
The Specter 0
The Villager 1-9
The Town Crier 10-49
The Mercenary 50-199
The Warrior 200-499
The Lord 500-999
The Duke 1000-1499
The Count 1500-1999
The Horadrim 2000-2999
The Edyrem 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Makes more sense with "regular" humans progressing up on the ladder towards Nephalem. But I don't know if I like it better than the Zakarum ranks. Unfortunately, I do not know what ranks those would be, since we pretty much need an organisation to base it off...
I'm voting for the Zakarum ones as of now
I think, if we changed the titles under Horadrim to more Diabloesque things, it would make more sense.
Option 13
The Fallen 0-9
The Sinner 10-49
The Minion 50-199
The Carver 200-499
The Ravager 500-999
The Prowler 1000-1499
The Butcher 1500-1999
The Overseer 2000-2999
The Lord of Terror 3000+
More Evil than Evil itself 5000+
Bleargh. Once again, Diablo? And more evil than evil itself?
Option 14
Specter 0 Serf 1-9 Villager 10-24 Militia 25-49 Man at Arms 50-99 Swordsman 100-199 The Knight 200-499 The Knight of the Realm 500-999 The Knight of the Order of the Dragon 1000-1499 The Conjurer 1500-1999 The Hero 2000-2999 The Hero of Khanduras 3000-4499 Trag'Ouls Right Hand 4500+
Don't know. The Dragon title is far too long, as it the realm title as well in my mind. I don't get the Hero of Khanduras part, why specifically Khanduras? And as the final title I really do want Nephalem
Option 15
lesser demon
demon
peasent
knight
king (ruler)
high sorcerer
angel
angris council
order of trag oul
Makes no sense at all.
Option 16
0-0 The newborn 1-9 The bandit 10-49 The harbinger 50-199 The warrior 200-499 The messiah 500-999 The Pyromancer 1000-1499 The elemental 1500-1999 The ancient Advisor 2000-2999 The magi of light 3000-4999 Defender of the souls 5000-7999 The holy Exterminator 8000+ The immortal Annihilator
I hope not
(decapitalising the names is not a seperate option)
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And Phrozen, Elfen explained that the 'The' is meant to be used how Zetiam used it. However, you are right, it does kind of make it seem like you are the only one of your rank. I dunno, maybe we should make a vote to have 'the' or not too.
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I think the easiest solution to that is to de-capitlalize the "T" in "The". Makes it look a bit better.
That would be the logical change if it is indeed supposed to be "PhrozenDragon, the emissary of the gods"
However that in my mind will look ridiculous with a decapitalized T. Just remove the "The" altogether :cool:
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Personally I think we should have one that takes Sanctuary's neutral aspects into consideration, much like what Atrumentis has said. I don't know if I like the Zakarum as a base for it, though it would be original. I do like the idea of having Nephalem as the "final rank". I definately think that should be the end.
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I personally think the new post rank titles shouldn't have "The"
infront of them
Its not like you're the only Warrior or only Mercenary in town
How come Genesis is the only one who even mentions this? There's no sense to having "The" infront of tevery rank. You're not "The Kignt" you're "A Knight", and that's how the ranks should be in my mind. "The" indicates that you're unique, which you certainly aren't; your title will be shared by many more in plain sight.
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So does anyone have anything against the Zakarum choice? If you do, say so, and why.
The Specter 0-0
The Zakarumite 1-9
The Faithful 10-49
The Zealot 50-199
The Sexton 200-499
The Cantor 500-999
The Hierophant 1000-1499
The Council Member 1500-1999
The High Council Member 2000-2999
The Que-Hagan 3000-4999
The Ancient 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Human Ranks 1
The Specter 0
The Villager 1-9
The Town Crier 10-49
The Mercenary 50-199
The Warrior 200-499
The Lord 500-999
The Duke 1000-1499
The Count 1500-1999
The Horadrim 2000-2999
The Edyrem 3000-4999
The Ancient One 5000-7999
The Nephalem 8000+
Human Ranks 2
Specter 0
Serf 1-9
Villager 10-24
Militia 25-49
Man at Arms 50-99
Swordsman 100-199
The Knight 200-499
The Knight of the Realm 500-999
The Knight of the Order of the Dragon 1000-1499
The Conjurer 1500-1999
The Hero 2000-2999
The Hero of Khanduras 3000-4499
Trag'Ouls Right Hand 4500+
Current Ranks
The Peasant 0-9
The Squire 10-49
The Man at Arms 50-199
The Knight 200-499
The Knight of the Realm 500-999
The Knight of the Order 1000-1499
The Cavalier 1500-1999
The Paladin 2000-2999
The Emmisary of the Gods 3000+
Horadrim Ranks
Specter 0
One-post wonder 1
Hopeful citizen 2-19
Apprentice 20-49
Spellcaster 50-99
Mage 100-199
Conjurer 200-499
Wizard 500-999
Sorcerer 1,000-1,999
Horadrim Mage 2,000-3,999
Horadrim Elder 4,000-5,999
Edyrem 6,000-7,999
Ancient 8,000-9,999
Nephalem 10,000+
Do we have nay other organizations which could be represented? Or are there any other suggestions that could be created? Perhaps a combination of Horadrim Necromanercs, Sorecresses etc? I don't know, I'm just asking, are there any other suggestions which are at least based off of something in Sanctuary that makes sense?
And more important, do we have any improvements to the already suggested ranks? (Such as the Horadrim one, I really don't think we should pick that one as it is.)
Ok
Oh. So my Horadrim suggestion wasn't good enough?
8 is still too many. I'm thinking three or perhaps four max. That way we can actually get a decent turnout on a voting.
And we need to decide what ranks to include in that poll. So at least remove option 6&7, they don't make any sense at all and have no basis in Diablo.
I vote for the Zakarum one. It's unique, no other site will have it, it has its roots in the Diablo lore, and it sounds really good. Up until this point, it is also the only human organization we know of with this many possible ranks. Another would be to do a Horadrim kind of deal, something like this perhaps:
Specter 0
One-post wonder 1
Hopeful citizen 2-19
Apprentice 20-49
Spellcaster 50-99
Mage 100-199
Conjurer 200-499
Wizard 500-999
Sorcerer 1,000-1,999
Horadrim Mage 2,000-3,999
Horadrim Elder 4,000-5,999
Edyrem 6,000-7,999
Ancient 8,000-9,999
Nephalem 10,000+
I'm just pointing htis out, I made up most of the middle ranks just to fill it all out to show what I mean.
Then how about removing some now? I don't mean to insult anyone, but some suggestions I think are out of the question.
I just like to have it as the final one, that's all. I think it really fits with the new development of the Diablo storyline that's come in the last year
Well, personally I think there's too much space in between your name, icon and avatar, but that might just be me.
This makes no sense. The Que-hagan is one man at all times. But lots of people will have that rank at the same time. What's more is that the following two ranks aren't really connected to the Zakarum church per se. It just doesn't make very much sense to me to have Ancient and Nephalem as the final two in combination with the other ranks.
I'm not being very positive am I?
One of these two in my opinion.
makes no sense at all. Devil's advocate all of a sudden, then you become the Lord of Terror? No thanks.
I like the quest icons better than the skill icons, at least I think they fit the titles a whole lot better.
Makes more sense with "regular" humans progressing up on the ladder towards Nephalem. But I don't know if I like it better than the Zakarum ranks. Unfortunately, I do not know what ranks those would be, since we pretty much need an organisation to base it off...
I'm voting for the Zakarum ones as of now
I think, if we changed the titles under Horadrim to more Diabloesque things, it would make more sense.
Bleargh. Once again, Diablo? And more evil than evil itself?
Don't know. The Dragon title is far too long, as it the realm title as well in my mind. I don't get the Hero of Khanduras part, why specifically Khanduras? And as the final title I really do want Nephalem
Makes no sense at all.
I hope not
Is removing the "The" an option?
However that in my mind will look ridiculous with a decapitalized T. Just remove the "The" altogether :cool:
How come Genesis is the only one who even mentions this? There's no sense to having "The" infront of tevery rank. You're not "The Kignt" you're "A Knight", and that's how the ranks should be in my mind. "The" indicates that you're unique, which you certainly aren't; your title will be shared by many more in plain sight.