For the softcore meta it just makes it really annoying doing grifts because you have to fish for the 55-56+ clears and your gonna be dying much more frequently. But strictly DPS-wise just lost Insanity or Slaughter depending on what kind of setup.
I'm still making a barb for S3 and it'll still be a huge improvement to S2.
I just can't figure out if I want to make a Barb first or a Crus first in terms of who will farm faster and more efficiently in the first 150-250 hours. for Hardcore.
I think for Softcore Barbarian will most likely have more snowball potential in the early stages.
@mannercookie - patiently waiting you're next update for Barbs. Still flip flopping between Barb and Crusader for season three. Hoping you're next video can help sway me one way or the other.
Question: would you say Barbs are in a better place for HC than Crusaders in 2.2?
I was planning on making a short summary video similar to the crusader video before ptr goes down but unfortunately it went down before I had a chance to record.
I did record something really basic last night that I can use but at this point probably best to just wait until Patch hits tomorrow and see what the exact official changes are.
Just bookmark this thread and keep an eye on updates and you'll stay up to date as patch goes live
HC BARB and HC CRUS are both fine, barb performs much better though.
I`ve been thinking about groupplay also. The new CDR ring randomly lowers the CD of 1 cooldown by 1 sec per rage spend. Is this affected by attackspeed? My thought is to use the ignore pain group buff; can we manage 100% uptime now? (group buff is not affected by pride of cassius so we can use the IK belt).
My setup would by more or less supportive with:
Whirlwind with hurricane pulls in enemies from within 35 yards
Battle rage with bloodshed OR Swords to ploughshares (8% per crit to drop a healthglobe)
Ignore pain with Mob Rule
CoTa rune as you please; either 50% damage reduction or go for the main element (fire/physical)
WoTb: Add bracer; all runes
Final spell is optional: Sprint for speed; Rend for dps/survival or Warcry for survival
Will this work as semi support?
sure but better to have dedicated support than hybrid setups if you want the best performance
Thanks for posting the build MC. Unfortunately they stealthnerfed slaughter proc coef. from 1.00 to 0.25 a few days ago which is going to suck for mirinae procs but its still really good.
Yea if they did ninja-nerf it does change things but still hard to beat miri in 3rd gem slot.
can't decide what to go first for Season 3
whatever I end up doing first I'll prolly be making content for first in Season 3.
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Thoughts and changes to my Season 3 Plan
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I really do hate the fact that the toughness runes are reeeeeeeeep
I think this tweet to JY is very reasonable request that can be easily implemented before S3 starts and it doesn't make Barbs over-perform too much.
Just balances it out a bit better and keeps build diversity for HOTA or SS
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GUYS THE NERFED BRACERS = NOT THAT BAD
Yes it's annoying and yes it sucks.
For the softcore meta it just makes it really annoying doing grifts because you have to fish for the 55-56+ clears and your gonna be dying much more frequently. But strictly DPS-wise just lost Insanity or Slaughter depending on what kind of setup.
I'm still making a barb for S3 and it'll still be a huge improvement to S2.
I just can't figure out if I want to make a Barb first or a Crus first in terms of who will farm faster and more efficiently in the first 150-250 hours. for Hardcore.
I think for Softcore Barbarian will most likely have more snowball potential in the early stages.
more thoughts and discussion on bnet here
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16953975373
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I was planning on making a short summary video similar to the crusader video before ptr goes down but unfortunately it went down before I had a chance to record.
I did record something really basic last night that I can use but at this point probably best to just wait until Patch hits tomorrow and see what the exact official changes are.
Just bookmark this thread and keep an eye on updates and you'll stay up to date as patch goes live
HC BARB and HC CRUS are both fine, barb performs much better though.
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I'm gonna try to put something together sometime tomorrow, like a brief 5 min vid that just summarizes the patch for barb.
Not gonna go into too many details of all the different builds, for that I suggest you look at the Original Post of this thread.
It's kind of a mini-compendium and you can look for what your seeking info about.
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Yes that setup is stronger, but I'm assuming it will be hotfixed.
@magier556
BK-Oath, I'll do a summary vid for barb like the crusader one if there's time before PTR goes down.
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At the moment I like 5xIK+3WW for solo Grifting, IK /w Hota for groups.
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So I've decided to give some PTR Feedback.
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frenzy's aps buff only applies to frenzy so the only benefit is faster animation of focus buff.
the range of bash is slightly more than exact melee range as well where frenzy requires you to be right at melee range to activate.
5 second buff uptime over 4 second is really beneficial
12% > 10%
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Holy Barb (Bulkathos /w Swords of Plougshares)
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sure but better to have dedicated support than hybrid setups if you want the best performance
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All Damage
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BK Oath Grifting + PTR 2.2 Summary
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Yea if they did ninja-nerf it does change things but still hard to beat miri in 3rd gem slot.
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