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Wow Mannercookie, I used to enjoy your channel, and I used to have respect for you. Way to flush it all down the drain.

You fucked up, you made a mistake (again), and instead of being a man and admit it was dumb as fuck, you go down the crybaby route blaming everyone but yourself. Weak.

wow you are smart, make sure to check your facts before you open your mouth.

edit: for the rest of you smart cookies who don't read a 160 post thread before responding, no I'm not banned but seeing how people who used the "exploit" less than I did are, I suppose I should be banned. Time to go write your tickets kids.

some of you guys must feel so great that D3 has cleaned up the cheaters and perm banned them all.

give yourselves all a pat on the back for keeping your integrity in tack in a fucken video game.

here's a medal of good spot for all of you, be sure to share it with your family and friends!

the few of you that are actually comparing d3 to the real world, you really need to get outside and see some sun.

It's quite funny that almost 95% of this thread's posts don't read the thread and respond.

Blizzard themselves did not follow their own criteria that they set out when it came to permanent bans.

Some random script was ran and there were a lot of accounts that don't fall under the category banned, not just few.

Obviously when someone states this, he is just defending cheaters and bla bla bla.

You guys are a joke, wake the fuck up please.

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Bloodshard exploit = 10x+ faster gearing at beginning of season with most powerful focused farming method.

Hellfire amulet = meaningless leaderboard ranks and a slightly elevated farm for short period.

I like how you refer to the bloodshards as an exploit, but you don't refer to the hellfire amulet exploit as an exploit. You're attempting to sugar coat it because you feel one is less game-breaking than the other. But it doesn't matter which was worse, as they were both still exploits.

To me they are all bugs tbh, I'm referring to them as exploits because of people like yourself who will be anal about the terming.
Anytime a game isn't working as intended, to me it's a bug in the game's design and the only party at fault are the game's developers.
I also don't care deeply about the video games I play, they are to me simply video games.
Some of you seem to care a little too much about your video games.

Now to keep integrity of the seasons, should cheaters be dealt with?

Yes absolutely, but there are better ways of doing this than simply running a random script on a mass playerpool and banning people that don't even fit your own criteria for perm ban.

Yup, having all 17 passives in this game was not that game breaking for most classes.

Maybe if the passives in this game weren't so outdated with most passives in this game being completely garbage, this would not be the case.

Obviously if it was never getting patched, sure it "breaks" the game and everyone is a lot more "op"

A fix was coming this was apparent, most classes just gained EHP buffs and lacked damage to get much use out of that additional EHP.

For the meta which was 2x monk, 2x barb during that period and still is, all 17 passives being equipped on all 4 members would've at best given the group +1 or +2 rifts for speedfarming and maybe +2-3 for grift pushing at the time the exploit became common news.

For SOLO ranks, it probably gave certain classes a bit more +x on rifts than other classes but yes solo leaderboards even with inflated numbers would be non-issue deeper into the season.

Not sure how this is hard to understand?

Bloodshard exploit = 10x+ faster gearing at beginning of season with most powerful focused farming method.

Hellfire amulet = meaningless leaderboard ranks and a slightly elevated farm for short period.

lol, is it that hard to see the difference ffs.

First off the vocal few that are so against "cheaters" in this game, the amount of hatred in this thread is simply amazing\

This massive banwave was done without the use of proper "case-by-case" analysis as they are saying they went through.

I know people who for a fact did not "excessively" use the HFA exploit and were permanently banned, while others who abused it to a much greater deal as well as use other 3rd party softwares as botting did not get perma banned.

According to the small group of you guys on this thread and on my video who feel so great about other people losing their game licenses, this is an okay thing for the company to do because cheaters are cheaters and this d3 game is all about fairplay

Blizzard upholding fairplay in seasons, this is a joke. There is lots of work to be done and we are already in S4.

Massively banning your playerpool with random criteria that isn't accurately targeting who "excessively exploited" and fit your own criteria for a permanent ban is wrong, not sure how any of you guys think this is okay ROFL.

IF someone tried this hellfire amulet thing for less than one hour or even 3-4 hours out of curiosity and stopped, this is not "excessively exploiting".

Banning a large amount of players who did not "excessively exploit" as they mentioned warranting a permanent ban, how the fuck can any of you think this is a good thing overall for the community?

This thread is turning into a joke, half the comments in here are people jumping up and down in joy because "cheaters" got banned from their uh game world for apparently some "powerful" exploit that meant literally nothing to season leaderboards since well quite frankly leaderboards mean jack shit in the first two weeks of the season..

And any of you thinking that blood shards were less of an exploit than HFA, are you serious right now? Whatever you are smoking I would like some please!

Bloodshard exploit in S3 allowed you to gear your character 10x+++ with the most powerful way of getting loot at that time, bloodshards.

Hellfire amulet bug allowed you to do a few GRIFTS higher than you normally can early on in the season, for speed grifts this barely mattered as most passives for most of the DPS classes were defensive and did not provide enough dps boost to carry you much higher than you already could do. Leaderboard ranks means nothing early on so anyone that actually is competing on leaderboards, they didn't care at all...

How any of you can even imagine that HFA > BloodShard just comes to show how little you play this game but love to jump in on the "ban those fuckers" parade because you are a cool kid who does not use silly bugs in a video game, here's a cookie, your such a honorable person.

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I tried this exploit same day it was hotfixed and it didnt even work for me and I was perma banned

Im so happy this happened - finally free from this game and can move on with my life Cant understand people being mad after ban.

omg ther86 you get the ban?
time to quit smoking too
you need a perma ban from the stores.

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@Trabzon2061, cheating ain't a joke, son ;P

Perma-ban the cheaters! Woooo!!

But seriously, any action against cheaters, be it botters or exploiters, is good. It's also easier for Blizzard to find the ppl exploiting the hellfire amu since that's something that their game can check for. It's not as easy to detect botters (although people will claim there is). You can't just ban people that are online for a long time. I don't have knowledge about how exact Blizzard is loging player's playing behaviour and screen time and I won't speculate. I'll just venture a guess to say that if they felt they had enough information to ban people using bots, they would.

it can't be that hard to track down botters, at least a vast majority of them.
most botters are using software/scripts that are made easily accessible by the few who actually program these things.
a bot in the end is a bot, as sophisticated the current bot that most users are using is, in the end it's still a bot and it's actions are all timed and rotated.
the real answer to botting is to create a game environment where the risk/reward for botting is not enough incentive that the majority of players will not bot.
but now we're going into some next level stuff that Blizzard isn't capable of these days.
just gotta stay on top of the latest trends in botting and clamp down on bots that get popular, it's not that hard imo.

TL:DR

- Perm bans on players who tried a simple bug in the game is very extreme.

- This banwave had absolutely nothing to do with botters, botters remain untouched (bots are extremely sophisticated).

- 17 passives was nowhere near the level of game breaking as blood shard goblins exploit, yet the passive bug was treated with much more extreme measures.

There seems to be some confusion, people believe that this banwave had something to do with botters or "cheaters" (thud,d3helper).

The banwave happened because of the bug that allowed players to equip all 17 passives in the game for the first two weeks of the season.

Not sure how blood shard exploit = rollback, hellfire amulet bug = perm ban

Too me it seems illogical

I don't see why people are being perma banned for such a silly bug that allowed players to equip all 17 passives when there are much more serious offenses currently happening in the game everywhere such as botting.

Botters were left untouched during this "banwave", I'm really confused to why botters in D3 aren't being taken more seriously.

I have seen footage of these bots in action, they are extremely sophisticated to the point that I would say it farms more efficiently than most players who are not focused on their game and multi-tasking other activities while casually farming.

Just made a short video to share my opinion/thoughts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwrDo9Gknhs

Due to popular request for a p25000 build that incorporates ancient spear and the new mighty weapon.

I've theorycrafted this build which should perform, although it has not been tested yet.

Enjoy

the only thing I would consider doing for now is 7% IAS on wep + 7% IAS on one ring

both of these will give you considerable reduction in frames per attack (more attacks per second)

Generally you want to drop crit on helmet+1x ring since PE is always run in HOTA setups and it provides APS.

edit: Considering DPS optimization when it comes to APS and CC for Hota is very tricky because you have to consider a lot of variables when your trying to perfectly min-max your setup.

So that's why GENERALLY I suggest drop crit on helm + 1x ring and run APS as this will fit into most group setups optimally.

I've also noticed people dropping 10% crit on necks, keep in mind this information may change but atm I would say this is a really bad choice if your looking to perfectly min-max your setup.

10% crit for one primary is very strong roll.

make more hellfire amulets

First one until then

first one is a salvage

roll attack speed on 2nd one

easy choice

Patch 2.3 GRIFT EXP Farming Support Barb

https://youtu.be/-BxEZFEMCxA

No video for this one as it's quite simple but here's an TX Uber farming optimization due to requests.

Fire WW SpeedFarming Bounties/White Mats Setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zOKAcqILrA