No, the Prime Evils don't have a 'father' that we know of. It has never been mentioned, its only speculated by fans.
When the Prime Evils are destroyed, it is mentioned by Tyrael that they have been "sent back to the black abyss that spawned them". So apparently they were spawned from the black abyss - whatever that is.
There is also knowledge of another world that is above both Heaven and Hell, just as Heaven and Hell are above Sanctuary. We don't know anything of this world except that there are extremely powerful beings called Dreamers that come from it (that look like toads), as described in Legacy of Blood. I really can't tell you much about them. They made it sound like this higher world is the one that created Heaven and Hell and are the ones who keep the balance between them. Kind of like fate, I think.
So it is possible that these Dreamers or someone else from their world created the black abyss that spawned the Prime Evils. Possible, but not confirmed.
There's an official thread for asking lore questions, I'll merge this with that one.
Well it's a bit less than half the size of a piece of paper, but if you're still looking for it, it should start right after the shrine and wells in the item section.
Yeah, thats the same in my book, except mine's on page 75. Aww, why does your book have more pages than mine? I feel like I'm missing out on something
The Great Eye is in reference to the Rogue's religion. They call themselves the Sisters of the Sightless Eye. We don't know much about their religion, but the whole 'eye' thing is about a kind of 'sixth sense' that Rogues have, similar to the Inner Sight skill of the Amazons.
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Rogue The Sisters of the Sightless Eye are a loosely organized guild shrouded in mystery amongst the peoples of the West. These highly skilled archers employ ancient Eastern philosophies that develop an "inner-sight" that they use both in combat and to circumvent dangerous traps that they may encounter. Known only as wandering Rogues in the West, the Sisters conceal their secret affiliation by posing as simple travelers. Many pompous fools have made the mistake of underestimating these steel nerved women in combat and paid a terrible price for their vanity.
The strange events transpiring in Khanduras have caught the attention of many of these Rogues. They have come from as far as the Eastern dunes to test their skills against the dark evil that is said to be lurking in Tristram. It is also believed that untold riches wait to be discovered among the ruins of the Horadrim monastery.
Although not as powerful in close combat as the Warrior, the Rogue is the undisputed master of the bow. A skilled Sister can send a stream of arrows at an opponent, each fired with a seemingly careless precision. The innate sixth sense that all Rogues seem to possess also allows them to sense trapped fixtures, and aids them in attempt to disarm these traps.
I have the original manual and it actually starts at the bottom of page 104.
Weird. Is your book approximately the size of a piece of paper? Or is it half the size of a piece of paper?
God, as an entity higher than Angels and Archanges has not been mentioned.
However, one of Tyrael's soundfiles has him saying "Godspeed".
Natalya also says "Godspeed".
But there is several mentions of a world that is higher than both Heaven and Hell, in the same way that Heaven and Hell is a higher world than Sanctuary. From this world are the Dreamers (toad-like creatures), whos enormous power is summoned by a necromancer in one of the novels (I think its Legacy of Blood). The Dreamer acts like a genie, granting the necromancer whatever it wants as a kind of favour (but it is annoyed at the 'wish' it grants, because it is so feeble compared to what it has the power to do).
I have a question concerning the Diablo 1 manual. Is it possible that on page 47 (the spells and magic section) that tyrael makes his first appearance to fans in the text of the spell Ressurection? If not this still may prove to be an angels intervention in assisting the Horadrim.
Of course Tyrael helped the Horadrim. He was the one that brought the mages together to form the Horadrim in the first place. But note that Tyrael is about the only angel to interfere with Sanctuary. The Archangel Yaerius who formed the Zakarum is another one.
In ages past, the Archangel Yaerius visited a young ascetic named Akarat and revealed to him the tenets of what was to become the religion of Zakarum. These teachings stressed the necessity of resisting all things evil, and embracing, with total devotion, the Light. The angel appointed Akarat to be the prophet of these new teachings, and bade him take the word to the people of all lands. This new religion spoke directly to the common man, and the people of Kurast embraced it. They sent disciples throughout Kehjistan to spread the word. Popular religious leaders soon sprung up, endorsed by the new church, and within half a century Zakarum was the dominant order of faith and binding political force in the East. As the religion of Zakarum took hold in the East, they encountered many enclaves of demonic followers. Some of these were fully corrupted, and easily identified, but many were under subtle demonic influence, and appeared to be noble and good. The Hand of Zakarum was an order of warriors consecrated by the church, and given powers of Light. These Paladins led the armies of Kehjistan against the forces of darkness, pursuing them tirelessly and leaving no territory unexamined. It was often a difficult task to sort out the wicked from the loyal, but they were relentless in their quest.
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My only question (if people still check and answer this)-
What significance does the Horadrim (sp) hold? And how is Cain related to this group as its last member. And what happened to the other members?
O.K. so a few more than one questions...
The Horadrim are significant as they are the ones that captured the Prime Evils into Soulstones in the first place. They consist of the most powerful mages from various clans that joined together in an alliance. This is a rare thing, as the mage clans are almost always at war with each other. They are also the ones who created all the portal and waypoint locations, and they invented many powerful spells and imbued them into scrolls. Nowadays, the original spells have been lost and only the scrolls remain.
Cain is the last descendant of the Horadrim. His great great great grandfather was Jered Cain.
As Hell's forces gained ascendancy in the mortal realm, the disparate and often mutually unfriendly mage-clans realized that divided they would surely fall. Thus, the Horadrim Order, a collection of smaller mage-clans, formed. They united to put an end to Hell's plans.
Despite their power, The Horadrim were mortal, and the faltered before the infernal advance. A gift from Heaven turned the tide: the Soulstones. Soulstones can entomb the spirit of any entity, even the raging spirit of a Prime Evil. So armed, the Horadrim captured a seemingly unprepared Mephisto in a Soulstone. The Horadrim split into two groups, each led by one accounted mighty in the arcane arts: Jered Cain set out after Diablo, Tal-Rasha after Baal.
In 1103, Jered Cain's Band of Horadrim captured Diablo in the country of Khanduras in a conflict so terrible that all but Cain died in the effort. Cain buried the stone near the river Talsande, and he had a Horadric Monastery built over the site.
During the monastery's ascendancy, Horadric monks filled the structure. Over the years, they tunneled several layers of catacombs beneath it. The small Hamlet of Tristram soom formed near the monastery. For a time, the Horadric monks and the good folks of Tristram lived in harmony.
Yes, Menarus. That is exactly Elfen's point. Your answers are vague and indefinite. We can guess, but we don't have any solid facts yet. This thread is supposed to be more about answering questions with solid facts than it is theories and guesses.
Thanks for coming out of hiding by the way. Its good to know that there are more people who actually know the Diablo lore.
Please note that theories don't belong here, but no, I don't Diablo can really split himself up.
Note that in Kingdom of Shadow, Diablo was never actually there. The 'image' of Diablo was conjured by Lord Khan, and was only an immitation of his memory of the Diablo in disguise as an Archangel. While the events of Kingdom of Shadow took place, Diablo was running over Sanctuary freeing his brothers.
Edit: I updated the front page so that every question and answer is now listed there.
The second part of his question says ciliizations. While that is primarily the classes, in regards to ciliization, it's actually vague.
How do Barbarians bury their Dead? Tomb? Funeral ship? Funeral pyre?
Who is the head of the Rathma Society?
WIth the Zakarum restablishing themselves in the West (Westmarch) who is the Que-Hegan there?
Who is the leader of the Barbarian clans? Is it still one person (used to be Bul Kathos)?
Who are the leader of the mage clans?
THese are thingsyou won't find anywhere (yet).
We don't know them exactly, but in one of the books it talks of an elder council of Necromancers who test the young ones before they pass as 'graduated' necromancers, possibly consisting of five members (from what I remember). Or maybe three. And one of them is a shade.
I remember that Tyrael destroyed the Worldstone and I read that the Worldstone had been keeping the ballance between the Heaven and the Hell. Now when Diablo, Mephisto and Baal are destroyed and Tyrael is alive... I think that it's clear that Tyrael will try to conquer the world. Or am I wrong?
P.P: If that is a secret Don't tell me.
Thats a theory, not a question. We have no idea yet.
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What of the Paladins after 20 years? Are they still filled with Virture and ready to smite evil or have they become corrupt and fallen from grace?
I believe i read somewhere that the Zakarum have recovered themselves.
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This veneer began to shred when Emperor Hakan became ill. His influence started to wane, and the mood in Caldeum changed with his health. As he got worse, so did our once fair city.
When he died and his ineffectual child heir took the throne, Caldeum began to circle the abyss. Our list of ills seems never-ending: the state of our downtrodden and the slums they are forced to live in, our incompetent leadership, the reemergence of the intolerant Zakarum, and their quarrels with our mage class...I could go on for pages.
It is all too much for one to bear, really.
Oh but, as for the Paladins themselves, I would imagine that they are still actively fighting evil (the ones that seperated themselves from the Inquisition of the Zakarum). Why wouldn't the Paladins still be alive?
Actually, that information is from the Diablo I manual. If you haven't played DI or read its manual, you definitely should. A lot of people say that Diablo I is actually better than Diablo II.
But I believe Belial is mentioned in The Legacy of Blood. Xazax is a minion of Belial, from what I recall.
The Blizzard guys were saying that we have seen Andariel and Duriel so far, but we have yet to see Azmodan (the Lord of Sin) and Belial (the Lord of Lies). We will very likely get to see them two in DIII.
And yes, they are only part of Diablo lore. Everything is only part of Diablo lore. Its not real life lol.
I have a question - if DESTRUCTION'S END portal leads to another dimension, how come the heroes of d2 still exist in Sanctuary?
Who said it leads to another dimension? We don't know where that portal led to exactly, but its assumed that it led back to town or back to the Hellforge to destroy Baal's soulstone.
How is the current situation in Hell, who has triumphed between the battle of Asmodeus and Belial?
As far as we know, Hell is still at war with itself. But, as pointed out to me in the past (possibly by Elfen), Hell is naturally chaotic, so they would pretty much be at war constantly anyway. This is Hell, they aren't ever going to just sit around and be peaceful.
Was Lilith trully killed?
I doubt it.
Apart from the 3 Prime Evils, Belial and Asmodeus, is there any "Major Evil" that hasn't appeared yet?
Astrogah, too, hasn't been seen yet. Though if you look at the concept art for DIII, a spider-woman can be seen. I have no idea if she is related to Astrogah or not though.
There is also Lucion, but we don't know if he really did fade from existence at Uldyssian's hand or not. (Uldyssian wished Lucion to become 'nothing' and so he did).
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The Warrior, Rogue, and Sorcerer from D1 were corupted and became The Wanderer, Blood Raven, and The Summoner in D2, correct?
Yes.
If that's the case, I'm wondering if there's any type of corrupting of the hero classes of D2? Or did they all just die of old age since D3 takes place 20 years afterward?
I think I read somewhere on the Diablo III website that the heroes who defeated Diablo became corrupted. However, the wording wasn't too good, so I'm not actually sure if it was talking about the heroes from Diablo I or II. But it seems very likely that they would be corrupted.
Oh yeah, do we know how old Cain really is?
No. But wow, he is old. Twenty years since we last saw him. I suspect there is more to it than mere luck. But that is just suspicion, we don't know for sure yet.
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When the Prime Evils are destroyed, it is mentioned by Tyrael that they have been "sent back to the black abyss that spawned them". So apparently they were spawned from the black abyss - whatever that is.
There is also knowledge of another world that is above both Heaven and Hell, just as Heaven and Hell are above Sanctuary. We don't know anything of this world except that there are extremely powerful beings called Dreamers that come from it (that look like toads), as described in Legacy of Blood. I really can't tell you much about them. They made it sound like this higher world is the one that created Heaven and Hell and are the ones who keep the balance between them. Kind of like fate, I think.
So it is possible that these Dreamers or someone else from their world created the black abyss that spawned the Prime Evils. Possible, but not confirmed.
There's an official thread for asking lore questions, I'll merge this with that one.
Yeah, thats the same in my book, except mine's on page 75. Aww, why does your book have more pages than mine? I feel like I'm missing out on something
Weird. Is your book approximately the size of a piece of paper? Or is it half the size of a piece of paper?
However, one of Tyrael's soundfiles has him saying "Godspeed".
Natalya also says "Godspeed".
But there is several mentions of a world that is higher than both Heaven and Hell, in the same way that Heaven and Hell is a higher world than Sanctuary. From this world are the Dreamers (toad-like creatures), whos enormous power is summoned by a necromancer in one of the novels (I think its Legacy of Blood). The Dreamer acts like a genie, granting the necromancer whatever it wants as a kind of favour (but it is annoyed at the 'wish' it grants, because it is so feeble compared to what it has the power to do).
I'll find the quote if you want.
Have you tried using the search function incase they moved it somewhere else? Search for the text?
Of course Tyrael helped the Horadrim. He was the one that brought the mages together to form the Horadrim in the first place. But note that Tyrael is about the only angel to interfere with Sanctuary. The Archangel Yaerius who formed the Zakarum is another one.
The Horadrim are significant as they are the ones that captured the Prime Evils into Soulstones in the first place. They consist of the most powerful mages from various clans that joined together in an alliance. This is a rare thing, as the mage clans are almost always at war with each other. They are also the ones who created all the portal and waypoint locations, and they invented many powerful spells and imbued them into scrolls. Nowadays, the original spells have been lost and only the scrolls remain.
Cain is the last descendant of the Horadrim. His great great great grandfather was Jered Cain.
Thanks for coming out of hiding by the way. Its good to know that there are more people who actually know the Diablo lore.
Note that in Kingdom of Shadow, Diablo was never actually there. The 'image' of Diablo was conjured by Lord Khan, and was only an immitation of his memory of the Diablo in disguise as an Archangel. While the events of Kingdom of Shadow took place, Diablo was running over Sanctuary freeing his brothers.
Edit: I updated the front page so that every question and answer is now listed there.
We don't know them exactly, but in one of the books it talks of an elder council of Necromancers who test the young ones before they pass as 'graduated' necromancers, possibly consisting of five members (from what I remember). Or maybe three. And one of them is a shade.
Thats a theory, not a question. We have no idea yet.
I believe i read somewhere that the Zakarum have recovered themselves.
Oh but, as for the Paladins themselves, I would imagine that they are still actively fighting evil (the ones that seperated themselves from the Inquisition of the Zakarum). Why wouldn't the Paladins still be alive?
But I believe Belial is mentioned in The Legacy of Blood. Xazax is a minion of Belial, from what I recall.
There are seven Great Evils: 3 Prime and 4 Lesser.
3 Prime: Diablo, Mephisto, Baal
4 Lesser: Andariel, Duriel, Azmodan and Belial.
Please refer to this link for more information: http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Evils
The Blizzard guys were saying that we have seen Andariel and Duriel so far, but we have yet to see Azmodan (the Lord of Sin) and Belial (the Lord of Lies). We will very likely get to see them two in DIII.
And yes, they are only part of Diablo lore. Everything is only part of Diablo lore. Its not real life lol.
Who said it leads to another dimension? We don't know where that portal led to exactly, but its assumed that it led back to town or back to the Hellforge to destroy Baal's soulstone.
As far as we know, Hell is still at war with itself. But, as pointed out to me in the past (possibly by Elfen), Hell is naturally chaotic, so they would pretty much be at war constantly anyway. This is Hell, they aren't ever going to just sit around and be peaceful.
I doubt it.
Astrogah, too, hasn't been seen yet. Though if you look at the concept art for DIII, a spider-woman can be seen. I have no idea if she is related to Astrogah or not though.
There is also Lucion, but we don't know if he really did fade from existence at Uldyssian's hand or not. (Uldyssian wished Lucion to become 'nothing' and so he did).
Yes.
I think I read somewhere on the Diablo III website that the heroes who defeated Diablo became corrupted. However, the wording wasn't too good, so I'm not actually sure if it was talking about the heroes from Diablo I or II. But it seems very likely that they would be corrupted.
No. But wow, he is old. Twenty years since we last saw him. I suspect there is more to it than mere luck. But that is just suspicion, we don't know for sure yet.