"I want to say something but I'll keep it to myself I guess and leave this useless post behind to make you aware that there WAS something... "
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
So turns out I have a little more money than I expected to get a PC with. I'm not looking for one that shatters the space-time continuum, but I would like one that I can run nearly everything on full and be comfortable with for the next few years. Here's what I narrowed it down to.
1 x Case ( NZXT Tempest EVO Gaming Case - Black )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2GB - HIS IceQ X Turbo - Core: 840MHz - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )
1 x Motherboard ( [SLI] ASUS P8Z68-V -- 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16, On-Board Bluetooth, Lucid Virtu Technology )
1 x Power Supply ( 1000 Watt - Extreme Gaming Series )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 120 GB ADATA S510 SSD - Single Drive )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
So turns out I have a little more money than I expected to get a PC with. I'm not looking for one that shatters the space-time continuum, but I would like one that I can run nearly everything on full and be comfortable with for the next few years. Here's what I narrowed it down to.
1 x Case ( NZXT Tempest EVO Gaming Case - Black )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2GB - HIS IceQ X Turbo - Core: 840MHz - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )
1 x Motherboard ( [SLI] ASUS P8Z68-V -- 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16, On-Board Bluetooth, Lucid Virtu Technology )
1 x Power Supply ( 1000 Watt - Extreme Gaming Series )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 120 GB ADATA S510 SSD - Single Drive )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
I have quite a similar system that I ordered and got at the end of 2011! I haven't really played the most graphics sought after games, but will soon start playing BF3! Yeah this system will last quite some time.
There's the sinister part of it, all those zombies and undead things that we see getting taken out in the beta, are Diablo fans who waited for the game, died, and became reanimated only to serve as targets in the game.
Im gonna start studiying programming / program engineering soon... any tips?
Typically the first thing to determine is what size of the development fence you want to fall on Linux/Unix (*NIX) or Microsoft, there is also assembly too if that's your interest. Sure there are some who program both sides but it's usually good to pick one camp or another to start with before moving onto another. There is a fair amount of work available in both isles. Myself I've made a career with Windows and it's paid me pretty well over the last 20 years as a systems, I don't particularly like Microsoft anymore than the *NIX side of the fence, it's just what was needed where I worked and I did what was needed.
After that it's a matter of determining what language is interesting to you. I would say of you learn C, C-Sharp, or Java those languages will give you the largest head start to adapting to other languages since most are a step down from there. Well, that's my 2 cents on the topic.
To go with Crossfire support and two AMD Radeon HD 6950's or just go with a single AMD Radeon HD 7970. Also... to go with a SSD or just stick to HDD which I'm more familar with. Oh technology, why are you making me your slave?
Im gonna start studiying programming / program engineering soon... any tips?
Typically the first thing to determine is what size of the development fence you want to fall on Linux/Unix (*NIX) or Microsoft, there is also assembly too if that's your interest. Sure there are some who program both sides but it's usually good to pick one camp or another to start with before moving onto another. There is a fair amount of work available in both isles. Myself I've made a career with Windows and it's paid me pretty well over the last 20 years as a systems, I don't particularly like Microsoft anymore than the *NIX side of the fence, it's just what was needed where I worked and I did what was needed.
After that it's a matter of determining what language is interesting to you. I would say of you learn C, C-Sharp, or Java those languages will give you the largest head start to adapting to other languages since most are a step down from there. Well, that's my 2 cents on the topic.
Thanks bro, you are always helpful
There is an engineering institute in Jerusalem called JCE and they have a program engineering course that prolongs 3-4 years with fairly low fees. I think i will go for it.
By the way, what languages fall under the assembly category? or is it a language by itself? Im kinda confused here...
Im gonna start studiying programming / program engineering soon... any tips?
Get used to not seeing any girls, ever.
Not worried, and im pretty sure you will be proven wrong. Atleast in my case. Besides, first things first. When i was in highschool and up untill recently, the other sex was one of if not the main interest for me. Now i value study more. Besides, the campus is full of hot chicks. I know girls who think that programming is sexy xD
To go with Crossfire support and two AMD Radeon HD 6950's or just go with a single AMD Radeon HD 7970. Also... to go with a SSD or just stick to HDD which I'm more familar with. Oh technology, why are you making me your slave?
I'd say SSD is definitely worth it. It's one of the upgrades that you notice the most (epic startup/shutdown time for windows & applications, also load time in games if you put them on there). The practical difference from a mechanical disk is not very noticeable so "familiarity" isn't that big a deal ;).
Also I'd generally recommend a single GPU chip over Crossfire/SLI any day of the week. HD7950 is coming out this week as well, so maybe that's an option?
Possibly. I thought about the 7970 but I did a lot of research and the 7970 is about the same as crossfire 6950's performance wise... Also read some information that said no games currently will even make use of the PCIe 3's 16GB/sec, games only work off of 8GB/s right now. So I dunno yet. I'll keep an eye out for the 7950.
And of course the place I was going to buy my GPU's from just went out of stock. They said they'd get more but no ETA, just my luck.
By the way, what languages fall under the assembly category? or is it a language by itself? Im kinda confused here...
Assembly is a low level language that talks directly to hardware beneath the OS; it's specific to the physical/virtual computer architecture. People who design hardware program in assembly. Cheers.
I'd say SSD is definitely worth it. It's one of the upgrades that you notice the most (epic startup/shutdown time for windows & applications, also load time in games if you put them on there).
Sadly this is how geeks become hopelessly addicted to speed
Possibly. I thought about the 7970 but I did a lot of research and the 7970 is about the same as crossfire 6950's performance wise... Also read some information that said no games currently will even make use of the PCIe 3's 16GB/sec, games only work off of 8GB/s right now. So I dunno yet. I'll keep an eye out for the 7950.
And of course the place I was going to buy my GPU's from just went out of stock. They said they'd get more but no ETA, just my luck.
Aye, true that. Two 6950 in CF do ~equal or better performance than a 7970. The reason why I'd recommend a single GPU vs CF is in regards to the microstuttering problem that dual GPU setups can get. This will probably not be an issue with 6950 cards since they can run most games at max settings with high enough framerate that this becomes a non-issue, but you never know.
I haven't personally experienced the microstuttering problem since I've never had Dual GPU, but I've read a fair bit about it. Some people notice it more than others (and some won't notice it at all) and some cards/games have it more than others.
Everything combined though I'll always recommend a single GPU solution vs a CF/SLI if the performance is about equal and the price difference is not too huge. So moving on to the prices..
In price the 6950 CF wins vs the 7970, the performance is also on average better so obviously 6950 CF wins as far as "bang for the buck" goes (not considering potential microstuttering).
Another contestant is the 7950 that was released today. Tests I've seen show that the card looks like a very solid card that, while obviously a bit weaker than the 7970, also can overclock very well, potentially surpassing a default clock 7970.
Another thing to consider may be that a single GPU will not draw as much power as a CF setup.
Aaaah well. Tbh any choice you make, whether it be 6950CF, 7970 or 7950, it'll kick ass!
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
1 x Case ( NZXT Tempest EVO Gaming Case - Black )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2GB - HIS IceQ X Turbo - Core: 840MHz - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )
1 x Motherboard ( [SLI] ASUS P8Z68-V -- 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16, On-Board Bluetooth, Lucid Virtu Technology )
1 x Power Supply ( 1000 Watt - Extreme Gaming Series )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 120 GB ADATA S510 SSD - Single Drive )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
I have quite a similar system that I ordered and got at the end of 2011! I haven't really played the most graphics sought after games, but will soon start playing BF3! Yeah this system will last quite some time.
STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE!! :Thumbs Up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGHX5Vtf0Q
Typically the first thing to determine is what size of the development fence you want to fall on Linux/Unix (*NIX) or Microsoft, there is also assembly too if that's your interest. Sure there are some who program both sides but it's usually good to pick one camp or another to start with before moving onto another. There is a fair amount of work available in both isles. Myself I've made a career with Windows and it's paid me pretty well over the last 20 years as a systems, I don't particularly like Microsoft anymore than the *NIX side of the fence, it's just what was needed where I worked and I did what was needed.
After that it's a matter of determining what language is interesting to you. I would say of you learn C, C-Sharp, or Java those languages will give you the largest head start to adapting to other languages since most are a step down from there. Well, that's my 2 cents on the topic.
Thanks bro, you are always helpful
There is an engineering institute in Jerusalem called JCE and they have a program engineering course that prolongs 3-4 years with fairly low fees. I think i will go for it.
By the way, what languages fall under the assembly category? or is it a language by itself? Im kinda confused here...
Get used to not seeing any girls, ever.
Not worried, and im pretty sure you will be proven wrong. Atleast in my case. Besides, first things first. When i was in highschool and up untill recently, the other sex was one of if not the main interest for me. Now i value study more. Besides, the campus is full of hot chicks. I know girls who think that programming is sexy xD
I'd say SSD is definitely worth it. It's one of the upgrades that you notice the most (epic startup/shutdown time for windows & applications, also load time in games if you put them on there). The practical difference from a mechanical disk is not very noticeable so "familiarity" isn't that big a deal ;).
Also I'd generally recommend a single GPU chip over Crossfire/SLI any day of the week. HD7950 is coming out this week as well, so maybe that's an option?
And of course the place I was going to buy my GPU's from just went out of stock. They said they'd get more but no ETA, just my luck.
Sadly this is how geeks become hopelessly addicted to speed
Aye, true that. Two 6950 in CF do ~equal or better performance than a 7970. The reason why I'd recommend a single GPU vs CF is in regards to the microstuttering problem that dual GPU setups can get. This will probably not be an issue with 6950 cards since they can run most games at max settings with high enough framerate that this becomes a non-issue, but you never know.
I haven't personally experienced the microstuttering problem since I've never had Dual GPU, but I've read a fair bit about it. Some people notice it more than others (and some won't notice it at all) and some cards/games have it more than others.
Everything combined though I'll always recommend a single GPU solution vs a CF/SLI if the performance is about equal and the price difference is not too huge. So moving on to the prices..
In price the 6950 CF wins vs the 7970, the performance is also on average better so obviously 6950 CF wins as far as "bang for the buck" goes (not considering potential microstuttering).
Another contestant is the 7950 that was released today. Tests I've seen show that the card looks like a very solid card that, while obviously a bit weaker than the 7970, also can overclock very well, potentially surpassing a default clock 7970.
Another thing to consider may be that a single GPU will not draw as much power as a CF setup.
Aaaah well. Tbh any choice you make, whether it be 6950CF, 7970 or 7950, it'll kick ass!