The odds increase your chances significantly, actually. 2 accounts increase your chances 2-fold. 4 accounts increase your chances 4-fold, etc.
But unless you have different hardware configurations on multiple computers, some of those might not count depending on how the beta optin works. They definitely do take into consideration hardware specs when deciding who gets to play.
Thats a dumb way of thinking about it...
If I had a .0000001 chance with one box... then I would only have a .0000004 chance with 4 boxes... the increase is therefore insignificant. Even the way i put it is incorrect because the denominator increases with the numerator and actually decreases the increase of odds each time an account is added... anyways i hope you get it... I dont care to explain the math.
No, don't do that math. I'll do it.
Let's suppose there are 10,000 beta keys to be given out.
You sign up for 2. That's 1/10000 + 1/10000 = 2/10000. That's TWICE AS LIKELY to get opted in.
Or say you sign up with 3 accounts. That's 3/10000. That is 3 times as likely.
Your chances are still low, but you're still on an order of magnitude more likely to get in. Brought to you by science.
You take out the factors that I highly doubt Blizzard would give beta to people with very similar specs to another computer, and also area.
This isn't a simple more = better chance, it's a complex formula that Blizzard probably uses for each Beta. This computer is located in X area, we only want to give out X betas to this area, this computer has the same specs as X in X area, we'd prefer to not give the beta to this person because of the similarities, etc.
Generally you want a diverse beta testers as possible with a PC game.
None of y'all can do math. (I say as I edit this once again. My probability math is rusty.)
For each additional beta-opt in, you're not only increasing the number of chances you have of getting into the beta, but increasing the number of potential beta-key picks.
I'll break it down.
If you can only get one ticket, you start with a 1/100 chance, plus a (1/99)*(99/100) chance (the odds of getting the second one after having not gotten the first one), etc. This is a fancy way of calculating that it's 10/100 or 1/10. But you knew that.
If you buy a second account and opt in, now there are 101 applicants. The odds are now 10/101 for that second account.
90/101*90/100 Gets us the probability the probability neither of the tickets them will succeed, the inverse of which is the probability that one or both will. This number is ~19.8%
So the important thing to note here, is that each subsequent ticket has reduced odds.
Now, it's not a huge change especially in a huge pool of applicants, but it DOES mean that there are diminishing returns on extra accounts.
On the other hand, the odds of getting into the beta aren't nearly as bad as that one guy said. Blizzard knows that not everyone taken will accept, or even know what a beta is (betas are opted into by default if IIRC), so they will give beta keys to a large portion of accounts. I personally knew 2 people who got into the Starcraft beta (I took one of their accounts ), out of maybe a dozen people who were opted-in.
That's not a reasonable sample size, but it does tell me that the odds aren't that bad. If it were even 1/1000 the odds of two showing up in the same small group would be absurdly low. I think something like 1/100 or 1/50 are far more likely odds.
In that respect, with the diminishing returns being fairly small because there are so many blizz accounts, buying extra games might not be a bad option. The change in total volume would be miniscule, so buying 10 games and having 10 accounts would be pretty close to 10/50 or 1/5 odds. Approximately 18.3%.
However, the real question is: is it worth spending 200$ for 10 games that you already own, just to have a 18.3% chance of getting in the beta? Especially if pre-ordering the game will get you into the beta at a later date? This is not confirmed, but highly probable.
For each additional beta-opt in, you're not only increasing the number of chances you have of getting into the beta, but increasing the number of potential beta-key picks.
I'll break it down.
*I'm gonna simplify the math here, hang on*
Now, it's not a huge change, but it DOES mean that there are diminishing returns on extra accounts.
On the other hand, the odds of getting into the beta aren't nearly as bad as that one guy said. Blizzard knows that not everyone taken will accept, or even know what a beta is (betas are opted into by default if IIRC), so they will give beta keys to a large portion of accounts. I personally knew 2 people who got into the Starcraft beta (I took one of their accounts ), out of maybe a dozen people who were opted-in.
That's not a reasonable sample size, but it does tell me that the odds aren't that bad. If it were even 1/1000 the odds of two showing up in the same small group would be absurdly low. I think something like 1/100 or 1/50 are far more likely odds.
In that respect, with the diminishing returns being fairly small because there are so many blizz accounts, buying extra games might not be a bad option. The change in total volume would be miniscule, so buying 10 games and having 10 accounts would be pretty much identical to 10/50 or 1/5 odds.
However, the real question is: is it worth spending 200$ for 10 games that you already own, just to have a 20% chance of getting in the beta? Especially if pre-ordering the game will get you into the beta at a later date? This is not confirmed, but highly probable.
Actually, beta opt-in is not set to "on" by default. You have to do it manually because you submit your system specs via a pluggin.
I'd assume that Blizzard would want to find as many bugs as possible in the beta. Finding the wider diverse audience would be the best way to find as many bugs as possible, instead of just giving beta keys to some dude with the same system specs or similar specs in the same exact area. If Blizzard wants Diablo 3 to be polished as much as possible this is what they'll do.
I can also turn your words against you and say "What you're saying is pure speculation, they probably don't even consider people with the same exact specs." See how easy that is?
Actually, beta opt-in is not set to "on" by default. You have to do it manually because you submit your system specs via a pluggin.
That's a fair point, but the odds still aren't nearly 1/10000. With ~20 million bnet accounts, assuming all were opted in, (wild guesses but it should get us in the ballpark), there would be only 2000 beta testers.
Far more likely there are in the hundreds of thousands or low millions of beta opters, and they probably need 10,000 people or so minimum, so 1/100 would be muuuuuuuuch closer.
It doesnt work for me, I kind of gave up on this, im pretty sure If i get a beta key it will be from a fan site, or a contest, or a force podcast video contest ( HINT HINT )
Gharbad who are you? Good guy Greg? Don't remind people of that. That way you raise your chance (and mine) to get a beta key LOL.
Last year I bought a second copy of D2 so I could auto-mule in D2. Now I have 2 battlenet accounts, one with my desktop's system spec and another with my notebook's. Double chance FTW.
Even if I don't get a beta key I'll download the beta in the next day and hope that someone crack the game. SC2' beta file was available almost instantaneously after its release. I'm glad I have an account in blackcats-games.
None of y'all can do math. (I say as I edit this once again. My probability math is rusty.)
For each additional beta-opt in, you're not only increasing the number of chances you have of getting into the beta, but increasing the number of potential beta-key picks.
I'll break it down.
If you can only get one ticket, you start with a 1/100 chance, plus a (1/99)*(99/100) chance (the odds of getting the second one after having not gotten the first one), etc. This is a fancy way of calculating that it's 10/100 or 1/10. But you knew that.
If you buy a second account and opt in, now there are 101 applicants. The odds are now 10/101 for that second account.
90/101*90/100 Gets us the probability the probability neither of the tickets them will succeed, the inverse of which is the probability that one or both will. This number is ~19.8%
So the important thing to note here, is that each subsequent ticket has reduced odds.
Now, it's not a huge change especially in a huge pool of applicants, but it DOES mean that there are diminishing returns on extra accounts.
On the other hand, the odds of getting into the beta aren't nearly as bad as that one guy said. Blizzard knows that not everyone taken will accept, or even know what a beta is (betas are opted into by default if IIRC), so they will give beta keys to a large portion of accounts. I personally knew 2 people who got into the Starcraft beta (I took one of their accounts ), out of maybe a dozen people who were opted-in.
That's not a reasonable sample size, but it does tell me that the odds aren't that bad. If it were even 1/1000 the odds of two showing up in the same small group would be absurdly low. I think something like 1/100 or 1/50 are far more likely odds.
In that respect, with the diminishing returns being fairly small because there are so many blizz accounts, buying extra games might not be a bad option. The change in total volume would be miniscule, so buying 10 games and having 10 accounts would be pretty close to 10/50 or 1/5 odds. Approximately 18.3%.
However, the real question is: is it worth spending 200$ for 10 games that you already own, just to have a 18.3% chance of getting in the beta? Especially if pre-ordering the game will get you into the beta at a later date? This is not confirmed, but highly probable.
Yeah... that's what I've been saying... But I'm too lazy to go into the detail you just went into. Thanks bud.
If I had a .0000001 chance with one box... then I would only have a .0000004 chance with 4 boxes... the increase is therefore insignificant. Even the way i put it is incorrect because the denominator increases with the numerator and actually decreases the increase of odds each time an account is added... anyways i hope you get it... I dont care to explain the math.
it may increase odds significantly but the odds are still very very very poor.
Let's say my desktop account is chosen for the beta. Can I also play the it in my notebook? I ask that because my desktop is in my hometown and I study in another city. So if I can't use my notebook I'll have too play on weekends only.
Let's say my desktop account is chosen for the beta. Can I also play the it in my notebook? I ask that because my desktop is in my hometown and I study in another city. So if I can't use my notebook I'll have too play on weekends only.
Yes you can. In SC2 beta, as well as cataclysm, once i got in, i was able to install it on any computer i wanted just like any game.
Also, it'll just show up on your games list when you get in. Like if you log into BNET you have your list of games connected to that account; it should just show up once you get in unless they mail you a key. Which BTW you should never click ANY links at all even if they're from blizzard. If you get a key, google "battlenet" then click that link and log in, but never ever click any links in emails especially from blizzard.
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For each additional beta-opt in, you're not only increasing the number of chances you have of getting into the beta, but increasing the number of potential beta-key picks.
I'll break it down.
If you can only get one ticket, you start with a 1/100 chance, plus a (1/99)*(99/100) chance (the odds of getting the second one after having not gotten the first one), etc. This is a fancy way of calculating that it's 10/100 or 1/10. But you knew that.
If you buy a second account and opt in, now there are 101 applicants. The odds are now 10/101 for that second account.
90/101*90/100 Gets us the probability the probability neither of the tickets them will succeed, the inverse of which is the probability that one or both will. This number is ~19.8%
So the important thing to note here, is that each subsequent ticket has reduced odds.
Now, it's not a huge change especially in a huge pool of applicants, but it DOES mean that there are diminishing returns on extra accounts.
On the other hand, the odds of getting into the beta aren't nearly as bad as that one guy said. Blizzard knows that not everyone taken will accept, or even know what a beta is (betas are opted into by default if IIRC), so they will give beta keys to a large portion of accounts. I personally knew 2 people who got into the Starcraft beta (I took one of their accounts ), out of maybe a dozen people who were opted-in.
That's not a reasonable sample size, but it does tell me that the odds aren't that bad. If it were even 1/1000 the odds of two showing up in the same small group would be absurdly low. I think something like 1/100 or 1/50 are far more likely odds.
In that respect, with the diminishing returns being fairly small because there are so many blizz accounts, buying extra games might not be a bad option. The change in total volume would be miniscule, so buying 10 games and having 10 accounts would be pretty close to 10/50 or 1/5 odds. Approximately 18.3%.
However, the real question is: is it worth spending 200$ for 10 games that you already own, just to have a 18.3% chance of getting in the beta? Especially if pre-ordering the game will get you into the beta at a later date? This is not confirmed, but highly probable.
I'd assume that Blizzard would want to find as many bugs as possible in the beta. Finding the wider diverse audience would be the best way to find as many bugs as possible, instead of just giving beta keys to some dude with the same system specs or similar specs in the same exact area. If Blizzard wants Diablo 3 to be polished as much as possible this is what they'll do.
I can also turn your words against you and say "What you're saying is pure speculation, they probably don't even consider people with the same exact specs." See how easy that is?
That's a fair point, but the odds still aren't nearly 1/10000. With ~20 million bnet accounts, assuming all were opted in, (wild guesses but it should get us in the ballpark), there would be only 2000 beta testers.
Far more likely there are in the hundreds of thousands or low millions of beta opters, and they probably need 10,000 people or so minimum, so 1/100 would be muuuuuuuuch closer.
Last year I bought a second copy of D2 so I could auto-mule in D2. Now I have 2 battlenet accounts, one with my desktop's system spec and another with my notebook's. Double chance FTW.
Even if I don't get a beta key I'll download the beta in the next day and hope that someone crack the game. SC2' beta file was available almost instantaneously after its release. I'm glad I have an account in blackcats-games.
Yeah... that's what I've been saying... But I'm too lazy to go into the detail you just went into. Thanks bud.
Let's say my desktop account is chosen for the beta. Can I also play the it in my notebook? I ask that because my desktop is in my hometown and I study in another city. So if I can't use my notebook I'll have too play on weekends only.
Also, it'll just show up on your games list when you get in. Like if you log into BNET you have your list of games connected to that account; it should just show up once you get in unless they mail you a key. Which BTW you should never click ANY links at all even if they're from blizzard. If you get a key, google "battlenet" then click that link and log in, but never ever click any links in emails especially from blizzard.