I was just sitting and taking my daily poop, and started realizing that I want a pure spin to win set for our class! And, for some reason, I wanted it to be lightning... So, my mind went wandering back into when RoS was released and the Shard of Hate was bugged. Wouldn't it be cool having a set that sends massive amounts of lightning bolts flying through the air as we went spinning around like maniacs?
If not that, what if we spewed massive amounts of lava on the ground instead? To me, that wouldn't seem enough to make a single set viable, what if we got ourselves a weaker version of WotB permanently as a 6 set, or maybe even as a 4 set so we could use this with the IK set!
I am here, simply wanting ideas for an awesome Whirlwind class set for us poor barbs! Come on guys, lets try making an idea for a Whirlwind set!
Have fun, I'll be here watching this thread for a looooooooong time ^^
Edit: Did I make this in the right place? If not, move it to where it's supposed to be<3
Well, since nobody else found this thread yet, I took my time and thought a little more about the specific bonuses ^^
2 set: Whirlwind gains the effect of every rune.
4 set: When running the fire Whirlwind rune you spew out massive amounts of lava everywhere that deals X% damage per second for 3 seconds, When running the lightning Whirlwind rune you send out blasts of lightning in every direction that deal X% damage and has a X% chance when hitting a target to explode and deal additional damage in a small AoE. When running the cold Whirlwind rune you spawn frozen orbs that spin around you and chills every target hit while dealing X% damage. These frozen orbs have a big chance of exploding and freezing any enemy hit by it.
6 set: Wrath of the Berserker has a X% chance of being activated upon killing an enemy/ Wrath of the Berserker is permanent but is significantly weakened and still requires a skill slot to be used.
I am not sure if I like the 6 set piece at all, and I can see that creating the 4 set piece would be VERY hard. And there is always the question of how we are gonna stay alive when Whirlwinding through powerful mobs.
Note: I am only doing this for fun! I am not expecting this to become an actual set for us poor barbs, but maybe the devs catch an idea or two from this thread!
Edit: I am sleeping, post away but don't expect a response from me until tomorrow, goodnight ^^
2 piece: 500 str this is what all 2.0 6 piece set give, so sounds good and not OP.
4 piece: whirlwind gains the effect of all runes there are sets that give all runes to a skill with the 4 piece set, so same power there.
6 piece: remove the cost for whirlwind and regen 10 fury, and remove the movementspeed cap this is the strong piece of the set, as you don't need fury generators anymore and put stuff like rend back (yay vanilla skorn build). this would probably also make focus/restraint set best in slot, giving new use to old items.
Maybe add an onofficial 7th piece (like lutsocks, bombardier, quetzal, vile ward, ...). This should be an item with a very strong effect, but also some kind of downside. I'm thinking about something like a (1 hand) mighty weapon, with special affix "when equiped in mainhand, enter a berserker mode as long as you whirlwind". What this would do is activate wrath of the berserker while spinning, either the base effect (not on skill bar) or the version you have on your bar. This seems very strong, but with a mighty weapon, weapon master passive is worthless (damage loss and regen from 6 piece set), you loose a lot of damage from going with a 1H weapon over a 2H, and with the suggested 6 piece, life per fury spend and taeguk gem is worthless, so it would compensate the loss in damage and survivability, still giving a wanted effect.
Just some quick things that I could think of, that look to be the same way other sets are made, and would bring back the old "spin to win".
EDIT: on second thought, swap the suggested 6 piece bonus and weapon bonus around, and make the weapon a rare drop. This would make the weapon almost required (like lutsocks), while still having a strong set.
6 piece: remove the cost for whirlwind and regen 10 fury, and remove the movementspeed cap
There is no movement speed cap on WW since 2.1.0.
Did you test that? Since I removed my barbs in 2.0, I have to base this on the skill calculator (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#.h) and this says "while whirlwinding, you move at 100% movement speed".
In case there is no more such cap, that can be removed from my suggestion
Well, I don't think that would be strong enough as a set compared to other sets. Whirlwind has a rune that makes you generate fury per enemy hit, so the 6 set bonus is bad AND removes the ability to use focus/restraint because you remove the actual fury cost. Perhaps something else as a 6 set would be better. Something that makes using Whirlwind worth using. Something that adds damage to the set. The 6 set should be either the 4 set I came up with, or the enter a berserker mode as long as you whirlwind thing you came up with.
I didn't even think of having a special legendary for it! That would be awesome, but still very hard to make.
So here is how I see it at the moment:
2 set: 500 strength OR 100% Whirlwind damage. Both would be good, but the latter would be stronger.
4 set: Whirlwind gains the effect of every rune. Similar to the Raekors, and the rune equipped is the damage type it does.
6 set: This is the one that should give the highest amount of damage to the set, something that has a significant effect.
Come on guys, throw out any idea you have, I like it either way! Thank you for your contribution RiffSphere! Ignore anyone saying this game is going in a bad direction, it is most definitely NOT going in a bad direction! It's still just the first season, and there is a lot of work to be done to make this game better. But I think Blizzard has moved this game towards the right direction.
I almost think that it should be more like Raekors... a 2/3/4 set with 4 being WW gets all runes. Maybe 3 is a damage reduction while using WW? 2 is something simple like +VIt or +Str?
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
Thats not exactly true... We don't know the amount of time they used to fix the Firebird and Raekor set. For all we know, they could've changed them in a week!
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
Thats not exactly true... We don't know the amount of time they used to fix the Firebird and Raekor set. For all we know, they could've changed them in a week!
No they could not do this within week. They are neither Valve nor DE. We already did pay them, they have no reasons to further upgrade their product.
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation. 4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second. 5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
Thats not exactly true... We don't know the amount of time they used to fix the Firebird and Raekor set. For all we know, they could've changed them in a week!
No they could not do this within week. They are neither Valve nor DE. We already did pay them, they have no reasons to further upgrade their product.
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation.
4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second.
5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
What about no? It would take them at least 4-6 years to make another 6 pc set while fixing current sets (helltooth, shadows, nats, tals, vyrs etc.) will take them 1 year/ set (took them 2 years to fix firebird and raekor) so thats much more efficient.
Thats not exactly true... We don't know the amount of time they used to fix the Firebird and Raekor set. For all we know, they could've changed them in a week!
No they could not do this within week. They are neither Valve nor DE. We already did pay them, they have no reasons to further upgrade their product.
People already had an iPhone 3, yet they bought the 4, the 5, and the 6. Because they get upgraded. This is money in the bank for Apple. You wouldn't of come across the thought that perhaps Blizzard also tries to polish their products in order to secure more purchases?
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation.
4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second.
5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
would this be crazy.. yes
would this be fun.. yes
I think it's a great idea
Woud they make set like that? Nope.
Shiroiro, you are not adding anything useful to the thread with comments like that.
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation.
4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second.
5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
would this be crazy.. yes
would this be fun.. yes
I think it's a great idea
Woud they make set like that? Nope.
Shiroiro, you are not adding anything useful to the thread with comments like that.
Threads like that are not adding anything to the d3. They wont change anything just like my posts. Entertainment. Thats all. Lets be realistic. I can create at least 10 end game balanced and competetive 6pc sets within next 20 minutes. So what? Are they going to listen to me? Are you? Whats the point of this futile discussion? En ter tain ment. 1 nope wont make you enjoy it less.
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation.
4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second.
5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
would this be crazy.. yes
would this be fun.. yes
I think it's a great idea
Woud they make set like that? Nope.
Shiroiro, you are not adding anything useful to the thread with comments like that.
Threads like that are not adding anything to the d3. They wont change anything just like my posts. Entertainment. Thats all. Lets be realistic. I can create at least 10 end game balanced and competetive 6pc sets within next 20 minutes. So what? Are they going to listen to me? Are you? Whats the point of this futile discussion? En ter tain ment. 1 nope wont make you enjoy it less.
If you saw what I wrote in the beginning, you would know I made this thread for entertainment...
Whirlwinders, rejoice! We are getting ourselves a whirlwind set! #Blizzcon<3
well i don't think it worth it, 6 pieces to get it, i prefer keeping ancients + legendaries items
seems crap set imo.
why they didn't makea berserker set in which u have a lot of build varitey and different gameplays ?
i don't understand, wizz get archon build, crus have perma akarat, monk can be under epiphany all the time and barb cannot be permanent transformed. not fair
Do you really want every class to be based on the same thing? I for one, am looking forward to this set! If the legendary belt Lamentation works with it, then our whirlwind will do 600% more dmg on every enemy that have 2 stacks of rend on them! Even better would be if there is some kind of seasonal legendary that gives us all whirlwind runes. Lets keep our hopes high!
Also, do wizards really do have perma archon? I thought it was removed at some point.
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If not that, what if we spewed massive amounts of lava on the ground instead? To me, that wouldn't seem enough to make a single set viable, what if we got ourselves a weaker version of WotB permanently as a 6 set, or maybe even as a 4 set so we could use this with the IK set!
I am here, simply wanting ideas for an awesome Whirlwind class set for us poor barbs! Come on guys, lets try making an idea for a Whirlwind set!
Have fun, I'll be here watching this thread for a looooooooong time ^^
Edit: Did I make this in the right place? If not, move it to where it's supposed to be<3
2 set: Whirlwind gains the effect of every rune.
4 set: When running the fire Whirlwind rune you spew out massive amounts of lava everywhere that deals X% damage per second for 3 seconds, When running the lightning Whirlwind rune you send out blasts of lightning in every direction that deal X% damage and has a X% chance when hitting a target to explode and deal additional damage in a small AoE. When running the cold Whirlwind rune you spawn frozen orbs that spin around you and chills every target hit while dealing X% damage. These frozen orbs have a big chance of exploding and freezing any enemy hit by it.
6 set: Wrath of the Berserker has a X% chance of being activated upon killing an enemy/ Wrath of the Berserker is permanent but is significantly weakened and still requires a skill slot to be used.
I am not sure if I like the 6 set piece at all, and I can see that creating the 4 set piece would be VERY hard. And there is always the question of how we are gonna stay alive when Whirlwinding through powerful mobs.
Note: I am only doing this for fun! I am not expecting this to become an actual set for us poor barbs, but maybe the devs catch an idea or two from this thread!
Edit: I am sleeping, post away but don't expect a response from me until tomorrow, goodnight ^^
How about this for the set:
2 piece: 500 str
this is what all 2.0 6 piece set give, so sounds good and not OP.
4 piece: whirlwind gains the effect of all runes
there are sets that give all runes to a skill with the 4 piece set, so same power there.
6 piece: remove the cost for whirlwind and regen 10 fury, and remove the movementspeed cap
this is the strong piece of the set, as you don't need fury generators anymore and put stuff like rend back (yay vanilla skorn build).
this would probably also make focus/restraint set best in slot, giving new use to old items.
Maybe add an onofficial 7th piece (like lutsocks, bombardier, quetzal, vile ward, ...). This should be an item with a very strong effect, but also some kind of downside. I'm thinking about something like a (1 hand) mighty weapon, with special affix "when equiped in mainhand, enter a berserker mode as long as you whirlwind". What this would do is activate wrath of the berserker while spinning, either the base effect (not on skill bar) or the version you have on your bar. This seems very strong, but with a mighty weapon, weapon master passive is worthless (damage loss and regen from 6 piece set), you loose a lot of damage from going with a 1H weapon over a 2H, and with the suggested 6 piece, life per fury spend and taeguk gem is worthless, so it would compensate the loss in damage and survivability, still giving a wanted effect.
Just some quick things that I could think of, that look to be the same way other sets are made, and would bring back the old "spin to win".
EDIT: on second thought, swap the suggested 6 piece bonus and weapon bonus around, and make the weapon a rare drop. This would make the weapon almost required (like lutsocks), while still having a strong set.
Did you test that? Since I removed my barbs in 2.0, I have to base this on the skill calculator (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#.h) and this says "while whirlwinding, you move at 100% movement speed".
In case there is no more such cap, that can be removed from my suggestion
I didn't even think of having a special legendary for it! That would be awesome, but still very hard to make.
So here is how I see it at the moment:
2 set: 500 strength OR 100% Whirlwind damage. Both would be good, but the latter would be stronger.
4 set: Whirlwind gains the effect of every rune. Similar to the Raekors, and the rune equipped is the damage type it does.
6 set: This is the one that should give the highest amount of damage to the set, something that has a significant effect.
Come on guys, throw out any idea you have, I like it either way! Thank you for your contribution RiffSphere! Ignore anyone saying this game is going in a bad direction, it is most definitely NOT going in a bad direction! It's still just the first season, and there is a lot of work to be done to make this game better. But I think Blizzard has moved this game towards the right direction.
Thats not exactly true... We don't know the amount of time they used to fix the Firebird and Raekor set. For all we know, they could've changed them in a week!
2: set + 50 Fury + 2 Fury generation.
4: set spending 20 Fury increases the duration of Wrath of the Berserker by 1 second.
5: set Activates All Wrath of the Berserker skill runes.
would this be crazy.. yes
would this be fun.. yes
I think it's a great idea
Also, do wizards really do have perma archon? I thought it was removed at some point.