Does bloodthrist really work that well?
does it stack with other life steals? Like if i have rend with blood lust which is 9% and bloodthirst is 3% so does that make it 12%?
Class skill life steal is not nerfed in Inferno. Only the stat is. I'm definitely not getting 4% life steal from Ignore Pain's Ignorance is Bliss rune.
Class skill life steal is not nerfed in Inferno. Only the stat is. I'm definitely not getting 4% life steal from Ignore Pain's Ignorance is Bliss rune.
What do you mean? If its a skill its not nerfed but if its a stat on gear it is?
Life per second seems to get a ~40% nerf in inferno same with inspiring presence. Inspiring presence might be better depending on your hp and dps, would need about 50k dps to beat it I think.
Checked again and you're right Cygone life per second and inspiring presence doesn't get nerfed in inferno. It just ticks twice a second that threw me off a little. Don't see any reason to take bloodthirst over inspiring presence now not balanced at all.
LSteel is basically a pointless stat at the moment, it has been theorised that you do to do 250000 dps to make LS > LoH.
the difference between ls and loh is that loh only triggers once, even for ae attacks and has a coefficient working which reduces proc rate, for instance with francy it only procs 0.75 times per hit (every 4 th hit is a no heal?!)
while ls always heals as long as you do damage, so if you have an ae attack you will get considerably more healing and it always "procs"
so as soon as people start to go more for damage it becomes more valuable, ae based it is easy to go over 250k dps...so its good in combination with loh, even now. its just not relaible for single/few target fights
I guess I was wrong about Life Steal not being nerfed with class skills (except Ignore Pain). Sorry bout that. The spreadsheet I linked at the bottom here actually confirms that with an Ancient Spear rune.
the difference between ls and loh is that loh only triggers once, even for ae attacks and has a coefficient working which reduces proc rate, for instance with francy it only procs 0.75 times per hit (every 4 th hit is a no heal?!)
Life steal can become viable with ~150k dps IF you are AoEing, and have a decent percentage conversion. For single target, yes, it's probably not viable until ~250k.
As for Life on Hit coefficients, it's not that it has a 75% chance to proc with Frenzy, it's that Frenzy has a 0.75 coefficient on Life on Hit. This means that each time you hit with Frenzy you get 75% of your Life on Hit. So if you have 1000 LoH you get 750 with each hit.
Here's a spreadsheet with all the Barbarian Life on Hit coefficients.
does it stack with other life steals? Like if i have rend with blood lust which is 9% and bloodthirst is 3% so does that make it 12%?
if bloodthrist does work,
would this be a build that could possibly work?
http://eu.battle.net...cVkS!bVd!caZccc
edit: my barb is only lvl 21 atm. I am just trying to find a build i want to work towards and start trying out as i go.
so im taking that its not worth it/viable?
What do you mean? If its a skill its not nerfed but if its a stat on gear it is?
What is this I don't even
I have no f'n clue.
the difference between ls and loh is that loh only triggers once, even for ae attacks and has a coefficient working which reduces proc rate, for instance with francy it only procs 0.75 times per hit (every 4 th hit is a no heal?!)
while ls always heals as long as you do damage, so if you have an ae attack you will get considerably more healing and it always "procs"
so as soon as people start to go more for damage it becomes more valuable, ae based it is easy to go over 250k dps...so its good in combination with loh, even now. its just not relaible for single/few target fights
Life steal can become viable with ~150k dps IF you are AoEing, and have a decent percentage conversion. For single target, yes, it's probably not viable until ~250k.
As for Life on Hit coefficients, it's not that it has a 75% chance to proc with Frenzy, it's that Frenzy has a 0.75 coefficient on Life on Hit. This means that each time you hit with Frenzy you get 75% of your Life on Hit. So if you have 1000 LoH you get 750 with each hit.
Here's a spreadsheet with all the Barbarian Life on Hit coefficients.