Patch 1.0.9 Dungeons, a dream... [[ FANMADE ]]

  • #41
    While I appreciate your neat posts, you basically took the idea I proposed a little while ago with slightly watered down details, and added pictures : \
    http://www.diablofan...em-suggestions/
  • #42
    No reason to accuse someone of taking your idea. Also no reason not to expand on someone else's idea with more detail and design. There is no competition here, or prize to win. Just a bunch of passionate fans wanting to express our vision of the future enhancements to the game. I am quite confident numerous people came to the same conclusion about what they want to see even sometimes with the similar or same terminology.

    But you know, if it makes you feel better, it is acknowledged that you posted a similar idea first.(on this forum, cannot verify others, or within the millions of people who play this games' heads).
  • #43
    OP could make it clearer that these are his ideas and not from Blizzard, calling his patch 1.0.9 ideas a '1.0.9 patch preview' in the first paragraph is particularly disingenuous!
  • #44
    Stop talking like you are releasing a dev-blog. You are not a dev you are not creating dev-blogs.
    Elaborate your ideas better, I still have no idea what you are trying to accomplish with these things. Explain why this would be a good thing for more than just the top 10 players. How are you going to motivate people to keep playing? How often resets, what would the exact numbers look like? Make a pro/contra list. Would there be special runs like on path of exile?
  • #45
    Just bothers me that lots of people are calling this guy a genius for his ideas when they aren't original. I posted this idea on the official forums over a month ago and got no comments, and again the same idea on these forums a few days ago and only got a couple comments. Yet this guy posts a couple pictures with the same idea and people call him brilliant.

    It is a good idea, and blizzard should listen to these ideas. But if he wanted to continue the conversation he should have helped elaborate on the original idea from my thread rather then making a new one with the same idea.
  • #46
    Quote from Lizardo

    Just bothers me that lots of people are calling this guy a genius for his ideas when they aren't original. I posted this idea on the official forums over a month ago and got no comments, and again the same idea on these forums a few days ago and only got a couple comments. Yet this guy posts a couple pictures with the same idea and people call him brilliant.

    It is a good idea, and blizzard should listen to these ideas. But if he wanted to continue the conversation he should have helped elaborate on the original idea from my thread rather then making a new one with the same idea.


    Why your thread? You assume he saw your thread. Who cares if people call him a genius? Because he is not? Because you had the same idea? Would you complain if your thread was popular and people called you a genius?

    Every passionate fan has had an idea created and ignored only to have someone else create a flashier thread, or a more eye catching title and suddenly getting attention. Being a fan isn't a contest. I am excited if good ideas get attention. I am also disappointed when bad ideas get attention, and that drives me to start posting my own ideas.

    Instead of worrying that some other handle on the internet is getting attention, contribute to the conversation. Add and expand on the ideas. Make them better. Be happy the idea has attention.
  • #47
    Quote from xspeedballx

    Instead of worrying that some other handle on the internet is getting attention, contribute to the conversation. Add and expand on the ideas. Make them better. Be happy the idea has attention.


    The problem is that a well-presented "bad" idea can't be trumped by a badly presented better idea. Example: politics... it's not about what you say, but how you say it.

    Besides, if you present ready-made patch notes you don't leave much room for conversation. "Hey, here's my idea: X, Y, and Z. What do you think?" gives people more opportunities for feedback than "Hey, I have a dream and here's my awesome shiny Photoshop of it." What are you gonna say? "Well, you know, the pixels are nice, but please stop dreaming?"

    I think his points are valid. And I also understand if someone is upset if his work was plagiarized (didn't check though). It's definitely not new, so all the +1's are for the Photoshops.
  • #48
    Quote from Bagstone

    Quote from xspeedballx

    Instead of worrying that some other handle on the internet is getting attention, contribute to the conversation. Add and expand on the ideas. Make them better. Be happy the idea has attention.


    The problem is that a well-presented "bad" idea can't be trumped by a badly presented better idea. Example: politics... it's not about what you say, but how you say it.

    Besides, if you present ready-made patch notes you don't leave much room for conversation. "Hey, here's my idea: X, Y, and Z. What do you think?" gives people more opportunities for feedback than "Hey, I have a dream and here's my awesome shiny Photoshop of it." What are you gonna say? "Well, you know, the pixels are nice, but please stop dreaming?"

    I think his points are valid. And I also understand if someone is upset if his work was plagiarized (didn't check though). It's definitely not new, so all the +1's are for the Photoshops.


    I agree. Marketing is what it is. Whining about it and saying "but but but MY POST TOO!!!"(not saying that is how Lizardo came across necessarily) just makes it worse though. Now you are adding nothing to the conversation, devaluing your opinions in the eyes of true believers(the people who bought the marketing the moment they opened the post), devalued your opinions to skeptics as well.

    Whether a post presents room for discussion or not, a discussion can happen with or without the blessing of the OP. Pretty much how things happen. It is up to the posters to choose to improve upon it. Then the now thinktanked idea can be re-presented. The old one will be forgotten and someone else gets the "credit". For whatever that credit is worth.

    It is perfectly possible for a rational mind to ignore the sheep +1'ing for pretty pictures and to discuss the contents, as infuriating as it can be to actively participate in a thread where rationality of many has been turned off.
  • #49
    Man, I'll have to add those disclaimers I talked to you before. In the thread title and the OP. People are still taking this seriously and thinking it might confuse others.
  • #50
    Quote from Zero(pS)

    Man, I'll have to add those disclaimers I talked to you before. In the thread title and the OP. People are still taking this seriously and thinking it might confuse others.


    Thanks, I'll be sure to copy the disclaimer on any future posts I make.
  • #51
    No problem :)

    Some nice ideas and great work on the screenshots as usual.
  • #52
    Thanks guys. Next time I spend lots of time thinking about and writing down an idea I will make sure I add some pretty pictures to go with it and also suggest multiple options to allow for more conversation : )

    I draw and build props, so I may be a little more easily agitated then others when someone re-markets property or ideas. I've been burned before, and obviously this doesn't really count since there is no money earned from any of this. But it still affects me.

    I'm also a little surprised that the OP never really comments any further in his posts.
  • #53
    Quote from Lizardo

    Thanks guys. Next time I spend lots of time thinking about and writing down an idea I will make sure I add some pretty pictures to go with it and also suggest multiple options to allow for more conversation : )

    I draw and build props, so I may be a little more easily agitated then others when someone re-markets property or ideas. I've been burned before, and obviously this doesn't really count since there is no money earned from any of this. But it still affects me.

    I'm also a little surprised that the OP never really comments any further in his posts.


    Hey there,

    I actually just read your post today for the first time after reading your comments, we did have some pretty similar ideas. Great minds think alike I guess :). I'm sure many of the things I've posted have been mentioned before by someone, I didn't try to take anyone else's ideas to try to steal the credit for them. As for making them into a neat presentable package, I'm currently employed as a marketer and web designer so I deal with lots of writing/designing on a regular basis and I'm used to presenting ideas in such a fashion.

    I also happen to be very passionate when it comes to the Diablo series, MMO's, and other games for that matter, I actually wanted to make it my career growing up but never had the opportunity. I literally have binders filled with ideas, many for already existing games. I've tried to use official game forums before to showcase ideas i've had but they don't seem to work as well when you can't combine graphics and writing to express them, so this is why I chose instead to use the forums here to express my ideas.

    I've got many other ideas that I'm going to be presenting here on the the forums, some that probably won't be taken as positively as my last one's but I still want to share them to at least get some discussion going. Many of these are probably going to be one's that may have been already mentioned some where by some one, it's just the probability of suggesting things with a game this popular.
  • #54
    I like it. A ladder type thing would definitely bring a lot of people back to the game (me included). I haven't touched it for months since other games are progressing faster and in a more enjoyable way (MWO or PoE for example). I would really enjoy a scoring system like this. It needs some tweaks to prevent abuse, but the general idea is nice. They should hire you guys instead of coming up with semi-bad ideas themselves.
  • #55
    Moldran ahead of Kripp in a ladder type situation?
    psh aint gonna happen bro! :D
  • #56
    Quote from shaggy

    I hate the idea of "race seasons" in PoE.

    We need more features that the average player can enjoy and fewer features that Kripparian can get off to. I think Shadout has a far better idea (see below), in general, than the OP on this subject.


    Its that kind of thinking that put D3 in the shape it is today. Just sayin'.


    More is more.. Not less is more.
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