i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it? thats stupid imo. first off they took out the thing that everyone loved in diablo2, MF'ing for runes ( also jewels) and ways to be unique. i loved the idea to MF like crazy to get different level runes to make you stronger and better in PVP. Now they are GIVING YOU ALL THE RUNES!? thats pretty stupid. they are taking everything out to make yourself unique. so now if im a max level barb PVPing the ONLY thing that makes me different from another max level barb is the gear? one thing changes us? everything is given to you now, no thinking required. just make the game rated 5 and up. Also not to mention they can just buy the gear from the AH now. so wheres all the customization going? maybe patch 14 they will let us buy legendary items for gold to make us all the same.
sorry for rant ><
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MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it? thats stupid imo. first off they took out the thing that everyone loved in diablo2, MF'ing for runes ( also jewels) and ways to be unique. i loved the idea to MF like crazy to get different level runes to make you stronger and better in PVP. Now they are GIVING YOU ALL THE RUNES!? thats pretty stupid. they are taking everything out to make yourself unique. so now if im a max level barb PVPing the ONLY thing that makes me different from another max level barb is the gear? one thing changes us? everything is given to you now, no thinking required. just make the game rated 5 and up. Also not to mention they can just buy the gear from the AH now. so wheres all the customization going? maybe patch 14 they will let us buy legendary items for gold to make us all the same.
sorry for rant ><
How is making the runes unlockable and not a drop dumbing the game down?
There is enough crap to collect in the game in the form of gears, gems, recipes etc...
MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
i understand completely, im playing beta right now. im just saying they are taking more from us. im pretty sure once games out like every PVP game ever made theres gonna be cookie cutters. and giving us all the runes is stupid, what if ive been MFING for runes and gear for a long ass time and i have max level runed skills, and some noob still has lvl 1-2 runes. thats his fault lol
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Everyone loved MFing for runes you say? I did not love doing that. I think I just invalidated your entire post.
Just because you like to play a certain way doesn't mean the rest of us do. I'd rather be able to play the way I want with the skills and skill runes I want than have to go out into the world and grind for a single rune for hours and hours on end only to find every other rune in existence several times before finding mine. That, sir, does not sound like a good time to me.
i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it? thats stupid imo. first off they took out the thing that everyone loved in diablo2, MF'ing for runes ( also jewels) and ways to be unique. i loved the idea to MF like crazy to get different level runes to make you stronger and better in PVP. Now they are GIVING YOU ALL THE RUNES!? thats pretty stupid. they are taking everything out to make yourself unique. so now if im a max level barb PVPing the ONLY thing that makes me different from another max level barb is the gear? one thing changes us? everything is given to you now, no thinking required. just make the game rated 5 and up. Also not to mention they can just buy the gear from the AH now. so wheres all the customization going? maybe patch 14 they will let us buy legendary items for gold to make us all the same.
sorry for rant ><
How is making the runes unlockable and not a drop dumbing the game down?
There is enough crap to collect in the game in the form of gears, gems, recipes etc...
the more shit that has a chance to drop is more unique. what if someone never explores or MF's and wants to PVP, he has shitty runes still, good for him maybe if he loses he will want to explore more and get better runes to get stronger. i dunno im not the only one who is pissed
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Everyone loved MFing for runes you say? I did not love doing that. I think I just invalidated your entire post.
Just because you like to play a certain way doesn't mean the rest of us do. I'd rather be able to play the way I want with the skills and skill runes I want than have to go out into the world and grind for a single rune for hours and hours on end only to find every other rune in existence several times before finding mine. That, sir, does not sound like a good time to me.
But to each his own.
Also, rage post is raging.
k i guess u like basic games then. my guild all agrees that Mfing for runes/jewels/ charms in diablo2 was fun as shit, so just because u hated it doesnt mean everyone does.
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MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
Clearly you don't understand the changes. Everyone unlocks the same runes at the same levels PERIOD.
Every barb at level 30 will have the exact same skill and rune choices to pick from.
As long as they have a reasonable amount of item hunting in the game, I'm not going to complain.
The fun of any game is never being complete. If you ever end up with a perfect no improvement needed setup, that is when the game ends. Having to find better and better runes would be a good way to stretch this. But as long as they are planning to replace their absence with something else... I see nothing wrong with what they are doing here.
MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
Clearly you don't understand the changes. Everyone unlocks the same runes at the same levels PERIOD.
Every barb at level 30 will have the exact same skill and rune choices to pick from.
im saying everyone gets the same thing. everyone picks from the same thing. everyone will be pro. i would rather people find runes that are different level so that you need to farm inferno for high lvl runes instead of BOOM lvl 30 i get max level rune woot
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k i guess u like basic games then. my guild all agrees that Mfing for runes/jewels/ charms in diablo2 was fun as shit, so just because u hated it doesnt mean everyone does.
I didn't hate it, I said I didn't enjoy it. Stop with the absolutes. I still had fun but I would have rather been hunting for other stuff than the last rune I needed to make a runeword. It was annoying, frustrating, and time-consuming. Take a step back and think about the positives instead of the negatives.
Perhaps as a player had not had the pleasure of playing the beta, seeing the positives are easier for me. But you've gotta chill the @^#& out, son! O.o
im saying everyone gets the same thing. everyone picks from the same thing. everyone will be pro. i would rather people find runes that are different level so that you need to farm inferno for high lvl runes instead of BOOM lvl 30 i get max level rune woot
So wait... If everyone gets the same thing, then the person who wins would be the one with the better skill or better team, right? Isn't that the whole point of playing against other players? Why should one piece of loot based on 100% luck make or break a player? Also, there's still tons of gear out there to get that can help make or break a build, not to mention just because everyone can CHOOSE from the same thing doesn't mean they WILL be the same thing.
Coming from a competitive background, I can tell you I would much rather win knowing it was my ability rather than from some artifact I found.
im saying everyone gets the same thing. everyone picks from the same thing. everyone will be pro. i would rather people find runes that are different level so that you need to farm inferno for high lvl runes instead of BOOM lvl 30 i get max level rune woot
So wait... If everyone gets the same thing, then the person who wins would be the one with the better skill or better team, right? Isn't that the whole point of playing against other players? Why should one piece of loot based on 100% luck make or break a player? Also, there's still tons of gear out there to get that can help make or break a build, not to mention just because everyone can CHOOSE from the same thing doesn't mean they WILL be the same thing.
Coming from a competitive background, I can tell you I would much rather win knowing it was my ability rather than a some artifact I found.
Totally. In terms of PvP I much prefer Guild Wars style to WoW. Based on skill rather than gear.
I dont get it. The game is a sequel. A SEQUEL. Meaning, it's not the same game. Of course they are going to change major things. Go play D2 if you're still stuck on it
They should make the runes unlockable with the use!
I mean, the more you use a skill against monster the more "skill points" you get. When you have gathered enough of theese skill points you can unlock one rune!
In this way is too much easy playing with all the skill free...
*hits things with axe*
Your axe skill has increased to 2!
*hits again*
Your axe skill has increased to 3!
sorry for rant ><
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
Ha. Bagstone.
How is making the runes unlockable and not a drop dumbing the game down?
There is enough crap to collect in the game in the form of gears, gems, recipes etc...
Just because you like to play a certain way doesn't mean the rest of us do. I'd rather be able to play the way I want with the skills and skill runes I want than have to go out into the world and grind for a single rune for hours and hours on end only to find every other rune in existence several times before finding mine. That, sir, does not sound like a good time to me.
But to each his own.
Also, rage post is raging.
You see...
Not allowed to troll... ^^
Clearly you don't understand the changes. Everyone unlocks the same runes at the same levels PERIOD.
Every barb at level 30 will have the exact same skill and rune choices to pick from.
The fun of any game is never being complete. If you ever end up with a perfect no improvement needed setup, that is when the game ends. Having to find better and better runes would be a good way to stretch this. But as long as they are planning to replace their absence with something else... I see nothing wrong with what they are doing here.
Yes, there are less items to farm in inferno, a handfull less.
But they also fixed the problem of nothing to look forward to when leveling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't hate it, I said I didn't enjoy it. Stop with the absolutes. I still had fun but I would have rather been hunting for other stuff than the last rune I needed to make a runeword. It was annoying, frustrating, and time-consuming. Take a step back and think about the positives instead of the negatives.
Perhaps as a player had not had the pleasure of playing the beta, seeing the positives are easier for me. But you've gotta chill the @^#& out, son! O.o
So wait... If everyone gets the same thing, then the person who wins would be the one with the better skill or better team, right? Isn't that the whole point of playing against other players? Why should one piece of loot based on 100% luck make or break a player? Also, there's still tons of gear out there to get that can help make or break a build, not to mention just because everyone can CHOOSE from the same thing doesn't mean they WILL be the same thing.
Coming from a competitive background, I can tell you I would much rather win knowing it was my ability rather than from some artifact I found.
Totally. In terms of PvP I much prefer Guild Wars style to WoW. Based on skill rather than gear.
Your axe skill has increased to 2!
*hits again*
Your axe skill has increased to 3!
Where do I remember this from...
Mfing = mother fucking
...
But I think they meant magic finding ;o