Not sure if it is just people ditching DH now that they got nerfed, or if it's the fact that more people are finding them, but there are a TON of 1100dps+ bows up now with +crit and a socket. And judging by the prices, looks like it's going to just get cheaper.
Hahaha, normally I'm not the kind of guy that's a pro at marketing, but what I did was this: I bought an Xbow 1.1 dps with socket and IAS for 6 Million Gold about 2 weeks ago. Sold it for 11 Million 2 days ago. Now all the idiots that think DH is unplayable due to NT nerf ditch their gear and everyone who still thinks DH is viable profits from it
Not sure if it is just people ditching DH now that they got nerfed, or if it's the fact that more people are finding them, but there are a TON of 1100dps+ bows up now with +crit and a socket. And judging by the prices, looks like it's going to just get cheaper.
Act I Inferno was easy before, but didn't have chance to drop good stuff ... it does now ... that equals more supply.
Act II Inferno was crushing before, but now is doable with fairly decent gear ... that equals more supply.
Not really sure how bad Act III Inferno was because I didn't have 50-100 million gold to blow on overpriced gear, so I never bothered ... but went in there last night in a group and could see that it's not out of my reach, and probably doable in single player mode for me ... that equals more supply.
What's worse, that people are complaining about, but not putting two and two together are the repair costs. When it costs 35K for a full repair, that gold that is being taken out of the economy. Whats worse is that the those people are the ones that *need* gear, so the "buyers" of the middle tier gear (like 1.1k bows) are making less actual gold ... not more.
On top of all of that, there are a lot of players that have acquired their middle tier gear and are only looking for those pieces final pieces that probably won't be replaced ... and once acquired, they are now just part of the supply side, instead of the demand side.
Finally, with the changes in place, it's actually possible to gear yourself up without the need for the AH at all. 9% chance for iLvl61 in NM Act III? 1.9% change for iLvl62 in NM Act III? 2% chance for iLvl63 in Inf Act I? The players are not going to need the AH as much anymore.
Basically, all of that boils down to waaay to much supply, and the majority of it ridiculously priced, for the demand. The only pressure on the sellers to lower prices is really inventory space ... and maybe the desire to move their lessor pieces to buy that *final* waaay over priced piece.
Expect to see a big tumble in the market over the next two weeks ... I expect the cost of 1.1k Bows to fall below 500k in the near future.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
can easily reach 400% crit dmg with sockets.
can obtain 60 max discipline.
and passive to give around 25-30% crit chance
aswell as the fast attack speed.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
can easily reach 400% crit dmg with sockets.
can obtain 60 max discipline.
and passive to give around 25-30% crit chance
aswell as the fast attack speed.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Too bad Sharpshooter DPS is beyond irrelevant with NT's multiple hits no longer taking place. Literally the only thing Sharpshooter had going for it was the fact that during that 1s from the first crit, 4-5+ hits of NT would take place. That number is now 1-2, and Sharpshooter is more useless than it ever was.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Cause you have hundreds and hundreds of million. Most people don't. Supply is going up ... demand is going down. Bottom line is prices are going to fall like a rock soon. There is a rush on the market now to swap out IAS gear for Crit/Damage gear, but that will die down quickly.
can easily reach 400% crit dmg with sockets.
can obtain 60 max discipline.
and passive to give around 25-30% crit chance
aswell as the fast attack speed.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Too bad Sharpshooter DPS is beyond irrelevant with NT's multiple hits no longer taking place. Literally the only thing Sharpshooter had going for it was the fact that during that 1s from the first crit, 4-5+ hits of NT would take place. That number is now 1-2, and Sharpshooter is more useless than it ever was.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Frost Arrow and Ball of Lightning still greatly profit from Sharpshooter.
Cause you have hundreds and hundreds of million. Most people don't. Supply is going up ... demand is going down. Bottom line is prices are going to fall like a rock soon. There is a rush on the market now to swap out IAS gear for Crit/Damage gear, but that will die down quickly.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
can easily reach 400% crit dmg with sockets.
can obtain 60 max discipline.
and passive to give around 25-30% crit chance
aswell as the fast attack speed.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Too bad Sharpshooter DPS is beyond irrelevant with NT's multiple hits no longer taking place. Literally the only thing Sharpshooter had going for it was the fact that during that 1s from the first crit, 4-5+ hits of NT would take place. That number is now 1-2, and Sharpshooter is more useless than it ever was.
Frost Arrow and Ball of Lightning still greatly profit from Sharpshooter.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Cause you have hundreds and hundreds of million. Most people don't. Supply is going up ... demand is going down. Bottom line is prices are going to fall like a rock soon. There is a rush on the market now to swap out IAS gear for Crit/Damage gear, but that will die down quickly.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
^^ this
The 4p won't stay at 2 Disc. It'll be nerfed in no time and go back down to .40. I wouldn't waste any money on that set.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
^^ this
The 4p won't stay at 2 Disc. It'll be nerfed in no time and go back down to .40. I wouldn't waste any money on that set.
Why do you think it'll be nerfed. If anything, the others will be brought on line, and that'll be part of the buff. There should be a big advantage to wearing 4p of any set.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
^^ this
The 4p won't stay at 2 Disc. It'll be nerfed in no time and go back down to .40. I wouldn't waste any money on that set.
Why do you think it'll be nerfed. If anything, the others will be brought on line, and that'll be part of the buff. There should be a big advantage to wearing 4p of any set.
Because if you combine Night Stalker with a total of 3 Disc/second you'd pretty much never run out, thus making you pretty much invincible. As soon as someone shows how ridiculous 3 Disc/second regen is, it will be nerfed back into the ground.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
^^ this
The 4p won't stay at 2 Disc. It'll be nerfed in no time and go back down to .40. I wouldn't waste any money on that set.
Why do you think it'll be nerfed. If anything, the others will be brought on line, and that'll be part of the buff. There should be a big advantage to wearing 4p of any set.
Because if you combine Night Stalker with a total of 3 Disc/second you'd pretty much never run out, thus making you pretty much invincible. As soon as someone shows how ridiculous 3 Disc/second regen is, it will be nerfed back into the ground.
I doubt it. The amount of time/money required to get the right pieces is super high, and you've already achieved God status before having these pieces, after farming the gold to find them.
Honestly I think that this game is just going to slowly get to the point where you can't get more than 10 mil for God items, but we shall see.
Not sure if it is just people ditching DH now that they got nerfed, or if it's the fact that more people are finding them, but there are a TON of 1100dps+ bows up now with +crit and a socket. And judging by the prices, looks like it's going to just get cheaper.
I sold my IAS 2h xbow before the patch went live. I spent 25m on my 1295 dps 2h xbow w/ 145dex w/ no IAS. The damage range is a lot higher. I should of probably held out for a socket one, but I'd prob be waiting another 1-2 week to fund that venture. I have about 145% crit dmg but still critting like a boss. Wish I had a socket soo bad but thats in the 50-100m range!
can easily reach 400% crit dmg with sockets.
can obtain 60 max discipline.
and passive to give around 25-30% crit chance
aswell as the fast attack speed.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
Honestly, I'd love to buy a new weapon, but they are still overpriced for the damage that I would gain. I'm not dropping 50 million gold for 3000 damage. Sorry, not happening. I can still clear the game with my current weapon (1050 xbow 100+DEX w/ socket) so I can afford to wait for the prices to drop. You know, unless one of you fine gents has a 1200+ socket xbow/bow on the cheap.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Too bad Sharpshooter DPS is beyond irrelevant with NT's multiple hits no longer taking place. Literally the only thing Sharpshooter had going for it was the fact that during that 1s from the first crit, 4-5+ hits of NT would take place. That number is now 1-2, and Sharpshooter is more useless than it ever was.
Well if you start using Impale now as your main nuke...SS is still pretty viable
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Like that thing is buy-able.. lol... cant even find something past 150 crit dmg on the ah
Act I Inferno was easy before, but didn't have chance to drop good stuff ... it does now ... that equals more supply.
Act II Inferno was crushing before, but now is doable with fairly decent gear ... that equals more supply.
Not really sure how bad Act III Inferno was because I didn't have 50-100 million gold to blow on overpriced gear, so I never bothered ... but went in there last night in a group and could see that it's not out of my reach, and probably doable in single player mode for me ... that equals more supply.
What's worse, that people are complaining about, but not putting two and two together are the repair costs. When it costs 35K for a full repair, that gold that is being taken out of the economy. Whats worse is that the those people are the ones that *need* gear, so the "buyers" of the middle tier gear (like 1.1k bows) are making less actual gold ... not more.
On top of all of that, there are a lot of players that have acquired their middle tier gear and are only looking for those pieces final pieces that probably won't be replaced ... and once acquired, they are now just part of the supply side, instead of the demand side.
Finally, with the changes in place, it's actually possible to gear yourself up without the need for the AH at all. 9% chance for iLvl61 in NM Act III? 1.9% change for iLvl62 in NM Act III? 2% chance for iLvl63 in Inf Act I? The players are not going to need the AH as much anymore.
Basically, all of that boils down to waaay to much supply, and the majority of it ridiculously priced, for the demand. The only pressure on the sellers to lower prices is really inventory space ... and maybe the desire to move their lessor pieces to buy that *final* waaay over priced piece.
Expect to see a big tumble in the market over the next two weeks ... I expect the cost of 1.1k Bows to fall below 500k in the near future.
HA, one of these, just one, with those stats, would easily cost you over 150-200mil+. So good luck finding one with those stats, and one that you can afford x2.
I'd drop 50 mil on 3k damage, cause that means, way more than 3k with sharpshooter.
Too bad Sharpshooter DPS is beyond irrelevant with NT's multiple hits no longer taking place. Literally the only thing Sharpshooter had going for it was the fact that during that 1s from the first crit, 4-5+ hits of NT would take place. That number is now 1-2, and Sharpshooter is more useless than it ever was.
Cause you have hundreds and hundreds of million. Most people don't. Supply is going up ... demand is going down. Bottom line is prices are going to fall like a rock soon. There is a rush on the market now to swap out IAS gear for Crit/Damage gear, but that will die down quickly.
I still think the best gear swap right now is picking up a set of Natalya's 4p, but not sure I want to do that right now, since they've already said that Legendaries (which set items are Legendaries) are getting buffed, but not the ones that drop right now, but the ones that drop later.
^^ this
The 4p won't stay at 2 Disc. It'll be nerfed in no time and go back down to .40. I wouldn't waste any money on that set.
Why do you think it'll be nerfed. If anything, the others will be brought on line, and that'll be part of the buff. There should be a big advantage to wearing 4p of any set.
Because if you combine Night Stalker with a total of 3 Disc/second you'd pretty much never run out, thus making you pretty much invincible. As soon as someone shows how ridiculous 3 Disc/second regen is, it will be nerfed back into the ground.
I doubt it. The amount of time/money required to get the right pieces is super high, and you've already achieved God status before having these pieces, after farming the gold to find them.
Honestly I think that this game is just going to slowly get to the point where you can't get more than 10 mil for God items, but we shall see.
I sold my IAS 2h xbow before the patch went live. I spent 25m on my 1295 dps 2h xbow w/ 145dex w/ no IAS. The damage range is a lot higher. I should of probably held out for a socket one, but I'd prob be waiting another 1-2 week to fund that venture. I have about 145% crit dmg but still critting like a boss. Wish I had a socket soo bad but thats in the 50-100m range!
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http://i.imgur.com/8AfIp.jpg 4/4pc natalyza dps: 73k (w/o ss), dex: 1967, health: 22k, resist: ~150, mf: 90%/261%
Well if you start using Impale now as your main nuke...SS is still pretty viable