Another classic case of sellers wanting stupid prices for items.
The one's you've listed are on the AH at that price because they haven't sold, something to remember. The MF on the helm you've posted is entirely useless, as anyone building an MF set is buying a helm with more than 12% base. This helm would only be bought for the highest price by a Monk, and even then he's much more likely to get something with +AR, +Dex and +Vit.
All in all, the helm has no market. There isn't really anyone to sell it to. MF gear users are going to find something with more MF. Monks are going to find something with Vit. And DH are going to be after Crit chance on helm.
Another classic case of sellers wanting stupid prices for items.
The one's you've listed are on the AH at that price because they haven't sold, something to remember. The MF on the helm you've posted is entirely useless, as anyone building an MF set is buying a helm with more than 12% base. This helm would only be bought for the highest price by a Monk, and even then he's much more likely to get something with +AR, +Dex and +Vit.
All in all, the helm has no market. There isn't really anyone to sell it to. MF gear users are going to find something with more MF. Monks are going to find something with Vit. And DH are going to be after Crit chance on helm.
I'd be surprised if you got more than 100k.
My selling history would put that notion to rest. I have sold much less stats with 30%mf (with a base of 100 int/dex/vit/str) for more then 200k a pop. The most I have sole on for was when I sold a MF 30%, 130 int helm for 500k that I bought for 25k. This is my main source of income, buying and selling various MF 30%+ helms. I have netted over 3.5 mill just yesterday off of trading these, so I would know that this one is at least 1.7 mill. The reason I came here is because my usual pricing method was obsolete due to their being no similiar items.
To me its more that there are stupid buyers who spend insane amounts of money for things than stupid sellers. I have found most of the lowest AH prices to be pretty honest about what it will sell for, as I have never not sold anything that under cut it.
Thanks for the reply though.
I am probably just gonna throw it up on the AH with a bid price of 1.7 mill and a buyout price of 10 mill. If anyone is interested before I put it up PM me.
Not good helm... as other people note you're adding the socket mf to the base mf, what you're ignoring completely is that any other helm with a free socket and more than 12% magic find is automatically better than yours... so instead of searching for 30% magic find search for Dex, All Res and socket... and u'll find some surprises.
Well I have done some more searching and the closest price of a 80+ Dex, 0+ All Res and 10% base MF + a socket helm is 5 mill. I have it priced at 4.25 mill. This is still significantly more than the 100k assessment that was given.
Thank you all for your input
EDIT: @Vinn I have been listening to every one of their replies. The majority of my time on this game is spent buying and selling Magic Find Helms and I have gotten quite skilled at it. I generally know the value of what MF sells for through experience, most people don't know how much MF sells on AH otherwise I would have a lot of competition. I have been playing the auction house more than the game itself probably and have made much more money than I would playing it.
The reason I posted this, was that this helmet was a little out of my area of expertise. I came to this section (DH) because this helm is directed at their characters and I thought that they would know how much these stats are worth than me. I knew they most likely would not know how much MF is worth, so I assumed I would get a price that would represent the other stats. I thought most of them would say around 750k because that would around the amount that I guessed the raw stats of the helm would be worth. I would then add what I thought MF would be worth on top of it and then I would get a more accurate selling price than without their help.
Also you can't follow every advice you hear because they will sometimes contradict each other or just be bad advice in general. Especially when people from outside the target market (The monks) started pricing it because I knew they had little knowledge of what it would be worth.
One said 75k another said 500k.
/rant
@ Zinki
Your completely right on the fact that only stupid people would buy something like this for so much. They are more dumb people buying this type of stuff than dumb people selling it, imo. Thats why I base my price of the sellers not the average buyer ( which sounds like the opposite of what your supposed to be doing).
Here's why: The non-MF stats on it are lack luster. It's average dex and resist(which is great for DH), but it lacks vitality or something extra like crit of chance to fear(which is where the real $$ comes in). As for the MF, 12% base is average/low.
Someone looking for a MF helmet is not going to care about damage stats, and someone looking for a damaging helmet isn't going to care all that much about MF at the sacrifice of lower stats. Trying to sell this helm based on both sets isn't going to get you very far, imo.
Example: Bought my 156 dex, 80 vit, 4% chance to fear helm for 300k. Bought my 15% base mf with socket helm for about 250k. No one intelligent would spend over 1mill on a helm like that when most people switch to MF gear at near death of mobs or for chests only.
Can someone tell me the price of this helm? I play a wizard so I have no clue what it costs and there is nothing close on the AH with this much stats.
Ty in advanced
Missing crit chance, but easily 500k-1M. I sold 100+ intel helm with 16% mf+socket for 1M. I am rolling with a 18% mf helm w/ 23% mf gem. It only has str/vit sadly. My other helm for dps/mf set is when not using Andariel is a 130dex+11%mf+19% mf gem.
Ty in advanced
btw, nice MF
Anyway 75k is too low for my liking tbh. Here are some searches on helms with less stats than mine:
130+ Dex
30+ MF
Lowest price:6,000,000 (130 dex,188 armour, 31 MF)
2nd Lowest: 6,000,000 (Almost Same Stats)
80+ Dex
30+ MF
35+ All Res
Lowest price: 1,500,000 (86 dex, 67 all res, 32 MF)
2nd Lowest: 4,000,000 (Little Less stats)
See thats my dilemma my helm is better than both of those items in terms of stats, but there is no other item I can base my price off of.
And to my understanding DH need little to no vitality since they get one hit anyway.
Thanks for the replies
The one's you've listed are on the AH at that price because they haven't sold, something to remember. The MF on the helm you've posted is entirely useless, as anyone building an MF set is buying a helm with more than 12% base. This helm would only be bought for the highest price by a Monk, and even then he's much more likely to get something with +AR, +Dex and +Vit.
All in all, the helm has no market. There isn't really anyone to sell it to. MF gear users are going to find something with more MF. Monks are going to find something with Vit. And DH are going to be after Crit chance on helm.
I'd be surprised if you got more than 100k.
My selling history would put that notion to rest. I have sold much less stats with 30%mf (with a base of 100 int/dex/vit/str) for more then 200k a pop. The most I have sole on for was when I sold a MF 30%, 130 int helm for 500k that I bought for 25k. This is my main source of income, buying and selling various MF 30%+ helms. I have netted over 3.5 mill just yesterday off of trading these, so I would know that this one is at least 1.7 mill. The reason I came here is because my usual pricing method was obsolete due to their being no similiar items.
To me its more that there are stupid buyers who spend insane amounts of money for things than stupid sellers. I have found most of the lowest AH prices to be pretty honest about what it will sell for, as I have never not sold anything that under cut it.
Thanks for the reply though.
I am probably just gonna throw it up on the AH with a bid price of 1.7 mill and a buyout price of 10 mill. If anyone is interested before I put it up PM me.
Thank you all for your input
EDIT: @Vinn I have been listening to every one of their replies. The majority of my time on this game is spent buying and selling Magic Find Helms and I have gotten quite skilled at it. I generally know the value of what MF sells for through experience, most people don't know how much MF sells on AH otherwise I would have a lot of competition. I have been playing the auction house more than the game itself probably and have made much more money than I would playing it.
The reason I posted this, was that this helmet was a little out of my area of expertise. I came to this section (DH) because this helm is directed at their characters and I thought that they would know how much these stats are worth than me. I knew they most likely would not know how much MF is worth, so I assumed I would get a price that would represent the other stats. I thought most of them would say around 750k because that would around the amount that I guessed the raw stats of the helm would be worth. I would then add what I thought MF would be worth on top of it and then I would get a more accurate selling price than without their help.
Also you can't follow every advice you hear because they will sometimes contradict each other or just be bad advice in general. Especially when people from outside the target market (The monks) started pricing it because I knew they had little knowledge of what it would be worth.
One said 75k another said 500k.
/rant
@ Zinki
Your completely right on the fact that only stupid people would buy something like this for so much. They are more dumb people buying this type of stuff than dumb people selling it, imo. Thats why I base my price of the sellers not the average buyer ( which sounds like the opposite of what your supposed to be doing).
Here's why: The non-MF stats on it are lack luster. It's average dex and resist(which is great for DH), but it lacks vitality or something extra like crit of chance to fear(which is where the real $$ comes in). As for the MF, 12% base is average/low.
Someone looking for a MF helmet is not going to care about damage stats, and someone looking for a damaging helmet isn't going to care all that much about MF at the sacrifice of lower stats. Trying to sell this helm based on both sets isn't going to get you very far, imo.
Example: Bought my 156 dex, 80 vit, 4% chance to fear helm for 300k. Bought my 15% base mf with socket helm for about 250k. No one intelligent would spend over 1mill on a helm like that when most people switch to MF gear at near death of mobs or for chests only.
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http://i.imgur.com/8AfIp.jpg 4/4pc natalyza dps: 73k (w/o ss), dex: 1967, health: 22k, resist: ~150, mf: 90%/261%
A very cut-throat sale, bravo!
Congrats! I tend to undercut everyone unless the item is incredibly good, teehehe. Glad you mad bookoo gold there!!!
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http://i.imgur.com/8AfIp.jpg 4/4pc natalyza dps: 73k (w/o ss), dex: 1967, health: 22k, resist: ~150, mf: 90%/261%