Help me improve my Barb

  • #1
    Hey all, I haven't ever really posted on the site, which is my my post count will be so low. But I've seem to hit a wall and am wondering what I should get to upgrade my damage output? My survival right now is pretty solid, can't stand in stuff of course or I'll die, but with a little movement I do pretty well.

    I only have about 120m or so to spend, so keep that in mind, however advice about things I should work towards are also welcome.

    A note about my build (I haven't seen it anywhere else) I don't really use any fury generators. I do however hit a few times (left click, also my smash button) until I'm able to battle rage, I do that, then hit a few more times (generating fury faster than previously due to criticals) and start sprinting/whirlwinding. This works really well for a couple reasons - It allows me to move through packs and continues to generate fury. I also use HotA with smash for elites and with my sprint tornadoes up it helps me stay max fury while smashing away. Whirlwind is also nice for the utility it provides when I need to get out of things on the ground (and run through mobs).

    * I do use a SoJ when smashing away at elites (Not currently on my armory) but swap it out with my current ring in between white mobs.

    A link to my armory - http://us.battle.net...70/hero/2869544

    Right now I'm using brawler instead of bloodthirst (was trying this out) however my normal passive is bloodthirst.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated, and I hope I can get some help. Thanks! :)
  • #2
    Sell the mempo without crit and buy a high str high crit dmg IK helm. (most common gearing misstake i see atm is ppl using mempos without crit)

    also your skill build is pretty much the most common one out there^^

    next focus should be on getting leech on your offhand and buying a witching hour instead of the IK belt.
  • #3
    Yeah that's exactly the build I use except for brawler which is complete garbage that won't stay active while moving through big groups of mobs.

    Using the mempo depends entirely on whether it gets you to a tornado breakpoint or not and I don't care to check d3up right now. Same goes for WH and anything else with haste on it. Use whatever the best pieces you have are to hit a breakpoint without going to far over because anything between breakpoints isn't worth using unless you're single targeting. Swap for single target if you like.

    Your EF is pretty bad, they only have 2 random rolls and 1 of yours is a dex roll. It's best to use EF as an offhand with another mace mainhand. Get one with either LS or CHD and a socket. For MH get >150 str, socket, and LS or CHD (whichever the EF doesn't have) or both if you can afford it.
  • #4
    Scrap the spear offhand, and get a sword or a dagger blackweapon.
    Most common mistake among WW barbs is a slow offhand.

    A faster weapon will be a huge upgrade in dps for you.
    You should be ready to spend all your cash on it though.

    Other then that "seraphim" nailed the rest down pretty good. One other thing you can do if you wish is trying to find a pair of zuni-boots with good str on them. (The 8% poison will become overall dmg with blackweapons).

    I wish you good luck!
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  • #5
    Thanks for the replies! I do have an IK helm with ~240 (not logged in right now so going off memory) str, 43 vitality 6CHC, it doesn't do me much justice though since I sac 70 AR. The spear adds a lot of HP which is why I'm using it, and the EF would be in my offhand except I lose out on the CHC from having a mace/axe in MH. I also have a witching hour (stats are fuzzy since I don't use it often) and right now I'd lose the 2pc bonus AR and the AR on my belt currently.
  • #6
    Quote from Hagendaz

    Thanks for the replies! I do have an IK helm with ~240 (not logged in right now so going off memory) str, 43 vitality 6CHC, it doesn't do me much justice though since I sac 70 AR. The spear adds a lot of HP which is why I'm using it, and the EF would be in my offhand except I lose out on the CHC from having a mace/axe in MH. I also have a witching hour (stats are fuzzy since I don't use it often) and right now I'd lose the 2pc bonus AR and the AR on my belt currently.

    you would regain the 2pc bonus ar from using the IK helm..
    remember that its not about the stats of an individual item, its about gear balance. untill you can afford to buy a crit mempo i really advice you to gear towards a Ik helm since it will be the most effective thing you can use untill you do get a mempo with crit.

    for example, with my IK helm i acctually lose dps from a 3.5 crit mempo. hp as well.
  • #7
    Quote from Hagendaz

    The spear adds a lot of HP which is why I'm using it, and the EF would be in my offhand except I lose out on the CHC from having a mace/axe in MH.

    That VIT bonus will be nothing compared to a blackweapon offhand with LS on it. The EHP and a 20k dps upgrade do much more for you then those puny VIT points you got on the spear :)
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  • #8
    Quote from Shooa

    Quote from Hagendaz

    The spear adds a lot of HP which is why I'm using it, and the EF would be in my offhand except I lose out on the CHC from having a mace/axe in MH.

    That VIT bonus will be nothing compared to a blackweapon offhand with LS on it. The EHP and a 20k dps upgrade do much more for you then those puny VIT points you got on the spear :)

    PS. If you ask for help improving your gear, you probably shouldnt be here sitting defending your current gear choises :P
    Buy a IK head for 10mil+ and at WILL be an upgrade for you. Buy a new WH and it WILL be an upgrade to you. Its not our opinions or preferences, we are just trying to make your gear better, stats wise :)
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  • #9
    Quote from Shooa

    Quote from Shooa

    Quote from Hagendaz

    The spear adds a lot of HP which is why I'm using it, and the EF would be in my offhand except I lose out on the CHC from having a mace/axe in MH.

    That VIT bonus will be nothing compared to a blackweapon offhand with LS on it. The EHP and a 20k dps upgrade do much more for you then those puny VIT points you got on the spear :)

    PS. If you ask for help improving your gear, you probably shouldnt be here sitting defending your current gear choises :P
    Buy a IK head for 10mil+ and at WILL be an upgrade for you. Buy a new WH and it WILL be an upgrade to you. Its not our opinions or preferences, we are just trying to make your gear better, stats wise :)

    I'm not trying to defend my gear choices, simply explaining why I have what I have and the reasons in case someone over looks those. I also said I have a WH and a decent IK head, I'll try those out and see if I can find a better weapon, thanks a million. :)

    PS. Should I grab Bloodthirst back up as my 3rd passive?

    Edit: I just looked through my mules and found a nice looking wep (dps is on the lower side but the stats are nice) it's a black axe with ~718 dps 279 str 54 vitality 60 CHD 3% LS with an OS. By what I've read here if it's even viable to use that I could put it in the MH and use an EF OH?
  • #10
    Quote from Hagendaz

    Edit: I just looked through my mules and found a nice looking wep (dps is on the lower side but the stats are nice) it's a black axe with ~718 dps 279 str 54 vitality 60 CHD 3% LS with an OS. By what I've read here if it's even viable to use that I could put it in the MH and use an EF OH?
    Not really, it would be a decent OH but still much worse than a ~10m EF. Your MH needs to have a high dmg range since sprint tornadoes only use the MH dmg range and a ~718 dps axe is going to have a super low dmg range. This is one reason why EF makes a good OH. Even though EF can have super inflated dps from the +APS it can only roll a max of +40% dmg so it's dmg range is low. Also by using it as an OH you dramatically lower the fear annoying fear proc because tornadoes only proc mh procs but ww still procs from the last weapon swung. It also allows you to gear for specific tornado tick breakpoints and not waste any AS if you get a 1.2 speed mace MH and EF OH.
  • #11
    Was checking out some various weapon upgrades (black weapons) axes seem to be within a reasonable price range. I'm at a crossroads however. I can either go with something like - 1059 dps 120 str 42% CHD 2.8% LS, or 1103 dps 57 CHD 2.3% LS. The dps upgrade (paper dps) is minimal between the two. The first adds more LS which stands out, however since the second has higher min/max damage would it be a viable to get, or should I stick with option #1?

    Thanks for the reply btw, Phuzi0n. I may have to read this when I wake up, it's pretty late. :)
  • #12
    You can sim them on d3up to get a better idea of the difference in true dps (tdps) but the first one looks outright better. The str give a bit of armor and the extra LS will heal more but it depends how close their tdps is with the rest of your gear.
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