I don't really see how getting the Auction House will increase the chance to get closed beta since they need to test out that too before releasing it (F&F test)... and it probably will have tons of bugs since they said that it will need good amount of testing. I hope for beta to start 'course, but this just will delay things further in my opinion. I still hope that Force is correct and that the closed beta will start this week.
Someone else said something along the lines of "needs more polish before beta starts" and that just makes no sense to me.
Beta testing is specifically about a non-polished product. It's the polishing process. They don't need to polish anything to release a closed beta, or an open beta. That's why its a beta.
What really needs to happen is all the people with F&F keys need to stop playing so that they invite more people to maintain concurrency to test their servers. That will be the quickest/surest way for them to start the (more opened) closed beta.
edit: at the same time though... they might need a lot more people in order to truley test the ah ^_~
This.
I think the timing of the start more boils down to what extent they have fixed the instance creation/joining errors mentioned earlier in this thread with this patch (Error_24000 and Error_24001).
Was that not fixed in the patch.
edit: would seem not.
Yea I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not this delays the CB. My first reaction was that it would delay it until next week. Really it depends how many F&F testers there are.
They would need a lot of people playing to test the AH sufficiently, but I imagine they'll want to at least make sure it's working before starting the invites. It might take them a few hours to determine that its working enough to start mass testing, or it might take them all weekend.
p.s obviously they would send out invites at least a day before beta..
I'm not so sure about that. I think you'll be able to log right in. It is well known that you'll be able to log onto battle.net and see the game in your license list as soon as you get the email, as that's how we were told to confirm that the email isn't fake. Thus your account will be flagged for beta, so unless the servers are down, shouldn't you be able to log right in?
The reason why they want it more polished before they start inviting outside F&F is that some people don't know the difference between a beta and a demo and will think the game isn't worth buying if the beta has bugs.
Not sure about this, considering you have to submit system specs and what not I'm pretty sure people will know its a beta and not a demo.
They know its a beta, that doesn't mean that everyone knows what a beta is for.
I think the type of people that don't know what a beta is for are not going to have the brainpower to figure out how to opt-in in the first place.
I support this message.
But yeah I always find it funny the people say "yeah there are bugs so we cant release the phase where you.... uh...test for bugs".
I agree that some of the bigger ones should get fixed.. but still its how they word it =P
few more hours.
eh, I don't think you getting my point, I've been in lots of beta's where people been saying "there's so many bugs this game sucks I'm never gonna buy it", thought blizzard might want to avoid that.
those people are called trolls.. you ignore them. =P
They know its a beta, that doesn't mean that everyone knows what a beta is for.
I think the type of people that don't know what a beta is for are not going to have the brainpower to figure out how to opt-in in the first place.
But yeah I always find it funny the people say "yeah there are bugs so we cant release the phase where you.... uh...test for bugs".
Let's say that hypothetically there are 10 employees at Blizzard working on bug fixes and they have 50 unresolved bug reports. Would they really need more people to throw at them bug reports (possibly a lot of duplicate reports) when they already have their hands full? It makes more sense that they reduce the bug reports to 25 before inviting thousands of more players to have each of them send them a few bug reports. That's just work-flow science.
(Also sorry in advance if i "sound" a bit agitated(?).. I haven't had my tobacco)
Someone else said something along the lines of "needs more polish before beta starts" and that just makes no sense to me.
Beta testing is specifically about a non-polished product. It's the polishing process. They don't need to polish anything to release a closed beta, or an open beta. That's why its a beta.
What really needs to happen is all the people with F&F keys need to stop playing so that they invite more people to maintain concurrency to test their servers. That will be the quickest/surest way for them to start the (more opened) closed beta.
edit: would seem not.
They would need a lot of people playing to test the AH sufficiently, but I imagine they'll want to at least make sure it's working before starting the invites. It might take them a few hours to determine that its working enough to start mass testing, or it might take them all weekend.
I'm not so sure about that. I think you'll be able to log right in. It is well known that you'll be able to log onto battle.net and see the game in your license list as soon as you get the email, as that's how we were told to confirm that the email isn't fake. Thus your account will be flagged for beta, so unless the servers are down, shouldn't you be able to log right in?
Not sure about this, considering you have to submit system specs and what not I'm pretty sure people will know its a beta and not a demo.
I think the type of people that don't know what a beta is for are not going to have the brainpower to figure out how to opt-in in the first place.
But yeah I always find it funny the people say "yeah there are bugs so we cant release the phase where you.... uh...test for bugs".
I agree that some of the bigger ones should get fixed.. but still its how they word it =P
few more hours.
SIGN OF BETA
Let's say that hypothetically there are 10 employees at Blizzard working on bug fixes and they have 50 unresolved bug reports. Would they really need more people to throw at them bug reports (possibly a lot of duplicate reports) when they already have their hands full? It makes more sense that they reduce the bug reports to 25 before inviting thousands of more players to have each of them send them a few bug reports. That's just work-flow science.
(Also sorry in advance if i "sound" a bit agitated(?).. I haven't had my tobacco)
However, I feel that where the game is at right now is more than acceptable so....
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