A lot of people are having a fit saying Diablo 3 is inspired by WoW, the gaming world's Anti-Christ, but I think they're very wrong. No, Diablo 3 borrows far more heavily from God of War, the gaming world's Jesus, and this can only be a good thing. God of War had brightly lit environments, floating orbs and magical powers, all things many people hate about Diablo 3, and yet was one of the most visceral, captivating and downright fun games I've ever played:
This is Diablo 3:
And this is God of War:
So, apart from the obvious, here are a number of ways in which Diablo 3 takes after God of War. I'm assuming everyone has seen the gameplay video so they'll know what I'm talking about without me desperately searching for a good Diablo 3 screenshot. Not everyone has played GoW though (shame on you!) so I'll post some images of this so you know what I'm talking about:
1. "The stench of Ghouls"
As soon as the Barbarian enters the dungeon he is assailed by "Ghouls" which climb up the walls from below. This was the first things that reminded me of GoW: the way they climb, move and look is very similar to the "Undead Legionaires" Kratos must face! I'm suprised they're not infringing copyright law!
2. It's not "violent" - it's "visceral":
Our Barbarian litterally smashes his foes to pieces, blood and gore flying in all directions. Later in the gameplay video we see bloated zombies exploding in showers of eels, maidens exploding in showers of gore and a giant quadrapedal nasty biting the Barbarian's head clean off and throwing the rest away in a shower of Barbarian juice. I shouldn't have to explain how this is God of War, a game where you constantly disembowl, blind and mutilate anything that gets in your path.
3. Shiny baubles:
God of War is full of shiny baubles: health shiny baubles, mana baubles, Rage baubles and experience baubles: Kratos doesn't need elixirs: his awesomeness is such that he tears his enemies to bits and uses their life force to keep fighting! Granted the ones in GoW are much cooler and shinier looking that the Diablo 3 ones, but it's a work in process! Give them time and the orbs in Diablo 3 will look cool too.
4. I'm a magic man - I have magic hands:
Some people think that being the biggest badass ever to have lived, died, lived, died and lived again means that you can't shoot lighting bolts out of your armpits or pull giant magical hammers enchanted with evil spirits out of your rear but Kratos proves otherwise. These moves make him versatile, able to tackle enemies from range as well as close up, use tactics. You don't have to sit imobile in front of your enemy and take it in turns to hit eachother to prove that you're a man: nobody's going to accuse Kratos of having anything but a mammoth apendage.
5. Epic Monsters:
Epic monsters are what God of War is all about, and when I say epic I mean really really big. Over the course of the first two God of War games you'll kill a massive multi-headed sea serpent, a massive armoured Minotaur and the Collosus of Rhodes among others. Now in Diablo 3 we can see the Thousand Pounder and the aforementioned hideous Death-on-four-legs monster!
6. Coz I was blinded by the lights:
In God of War you'll repeatedly tear enemies to bits, smash their heads in doors and against walls, drown them in ponds, burn them alive, pull off their skulls and... but I digress. Despite all this darkness the game is often very bright and colourful, with a lot of bloom. This made the environments far more interesting and pleasing to the eye, because of the variation in mood the tempo, but Kratos's Greece is about as far from Care Bare land as it is possible to be.
7. No, not that sort ofstrong:
Diablo 3 will feature stronger character personalities who drive the story, participate in conversation, meet old friends and express opinions about their situation. Kratos doesn't so much drive God of War's story as violently pull the driver out, break every bone in his body, empale him on a spike and then lead the police on a high speed chase through 12 states!
Conclusion:
Obviously I love God of War, and so while I achknowledge that making a good game's sequel more like another good game is no recipe for sucess, the game that Diablo 3 is emmulating with it's colour and magic is not WoW but God of War, and in my book it's not possible to be too much like God of War
I guess God of War = WoW then. Because God of War has color and vibrancy.
By relation, according to the petitioners, God of War is gay and WoWish because it's not dark and brooding enough.
Everyone obviously thinks Diablo III looks like WoW for having color, but it actually more closely resembles GoW. The Barbarian especially should have a God of War feel to him. He's supposed to be the most brutal melee fighter. Who wants a wimpy Diablo 2 barb when you can have this one?
ya, the original Kratos actually had blue war tatoos like the barb from D2. I'm mad that the new one doesn't have them, but ya, very GoW like. I made this topic b4 they admitted to it btw. ill link it in a sec
EDIT: scratch that, it was 7-2. apparently they had the interview b4 then
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I guess God of War = WoW then. Because God of War has color and vibrancy.
By relation, according to the petitioners, God of War is gay and WoWish because it's not dark and brooding enough.
Everyone obviously thinks Diablo III looks like WoW for having color, but it actually more closely resembles GoW. The Barbarian especially should have a God of War feel to him. He's supposed to be the most brutal melee fighter. Who wants a wimpy Diablo 2 barb when you can have this one?
Yep, that's what this thread is all about: don't be so superficial! Course, I wouldn't say that the Diablo 2 barb is wippy, but I watch that gameplay video and "the colour is wrong" is not what pops into my head - what pops into my head is "Holy shit this is so ****ing awesome!"
Fan = Fantatic, and I think some people have watched that video so many times that they've gotten sick of it, and started looking for things to complain about. Go to a rave. Hug some strangers. Live a little.
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ya, the original Kratos actually had blue war tatoos like the barb from D2. I'm mad that the new one doesn't have them, but ya, very GoW like. I made this topic b4 they admitted to it btw. ill link it in a sec
EDIT: scratch that, it was 7-2. apparently they had the interview b4 then
I'm sorry if you already posted something like this, I did search for it but didn't find anything.
I absolutely agree with you that it does look like God of war. I also consider God of war a stupid console slasher that should be avoided.
There is definiteley an influence when all the enemies start flying in all direction while bleeding with unrealistic "cartoon" blood spray.
Btw graphically Diablo 3 isn't far away (except physics) from GoW. And that's PS2 level graphics... Moreso than WoW.
It's really sad that Diablo franchise now has the stech of consoloe slashers associated with it.
LOL for you every game seems to have cartoon it seems.
You are one of those people that seems to get affected by the general whining of the graphics. After that only thing you try to look from games are things that have something about wow or some kind of cartoonish looking thing.
When I read that petition page it had a lot of blaa blaa wow this and wow that which really made me laugh. It would have been a lot better "story" if the one that created the petition had left all the wow comparisons out and just analysized the graphics neutrally.
Imo that god of war looks one of the coolest console games there is. I dont have console and don't really mind about them in general but that one looks pretty cool.
The primary reason for blood to move in a spraying motion is when person get's cut with chainsaw, and there's no chainsaw in Diablo. There's no reason for doing "1 hit dismemberment" it looks unrealistic and stupid. It feels like hitting puppets. And it wouldn't spray it would only fly just a few drops and then bleed when the body is on the ground.
The only reason for blood to move in a spraying motion is when person get's cut with chainsaw, and there's no chainsaw in Diablo. There's no reason for doing "1 hit dismemberment" it looks unrealistic and stupid. And it wouldn't spray it would only fly just a few drops and then bleed when the body is on the ground.
blood sprayed and ran like water in d1 and d2.
and the anatomical makeup of the monsters in diablo are unknown, so it may spray.
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The only reason for blood to move in a spraying motion is when person get's cut with chainsaw, and there's no chainsaw in Diablo. There's no reason for doing "1 hit dismemberment" it looks unrealistic and stupid. And it wouldn't spray it would only fly just a few drops and then bleed when the body is on the ground.
Ugh.
Okay lets look on both sides.
Barbarian: KILLED DIABLO, why shouldn't he be able to dismember mere rotting ghouls?
Kratos: KILLED ZUES, why shouldn't he be able to dismember mere rotting ghouls?
Bloodspray? when you kill something and slap it aside cleaving it nearly into and severing many major arteries why shouldn't it bleed a lot?
But if it's unknown and they make up how everything works it's going to look unrealistic and stupid. If they want for the players to really get into the game they have to make sure the basic rules of logic apply.
It should bleed but not spray like in the trailer like a clouds of red mist.
I absolutely agree with you that it does look like God of war. I also consider God of war a stupid console slasher that should be avoided.
Obviously you have avoided it because you couldn't be more wrong. This is exactly what I'm talking about: people make judgements about things they don't understand.
Some believe that to be intelligent is to make judgements, but the Philosopher understands that wisdom is judging well, not simply judging. He is humble in the face of knowledge and thus knows when to speak and when to keep quiet.
- Article Philosophe de L'Encyclopedie, César Chesneau Dumarais
In case you've never played God of War here's a trailer for the second game:
This is Diablo 3:
And this is God of War:
So, apart from the obvious, here are a number of ways in which Diablo 3 takes after God of War. I'm assuming everyone has seen the gameplay video so they'll know what I'm talking about without me desperately searching for a good Diablo 3 screenshot. Not everyone has played GoW though (shame on you!) so I'll post some images of this so you know what I'm talking about:
1. "The stench of Ghouls"
As soon as the Barbarian enters the dungeon he is assailed by "Ghouls" which climb up the walls from below. This was the first things that reminded me of GoW: the way they climb, move and look is very similar to the "Undead Legionaires" Kratos must face! I'm suprised they're not infringing copyright law!
2. It's not "violent" - it's "visceral":
Our Barbarian litterally smashes his foes to pieces, blood and gore flying in all directions. Later in the gameplay video we see bloated zombies exploding in showers of eels, maidens exploding in showers of gore and a giant quadrapedal nasty biting the Barbarian's head clean off and throwing the rest away in a shower of Barbarian juice. I shouldn't have to explain how this is God of War, a game where you constantly disembowl, blind and mutilate anything that gets in your path.
3. Shiny baubles:
God of War is full of shiny baubles: health shiny baubles, mana baubles, Rage baubles and experience baubles: Kratos doesn't need elixirs: his awesomeness is such that he tears his enemies to bits and uses their life force to keep fighting! Granted the ones in GoW are much cooler and shinier looking that the Diablo 3 ones, but it's a work in process! Give them time and the orbs in Diablo 3 will look cool too.
4. I'm a magic man - I have magic hands:
Some people think that being the biggest badass ever to have lived, died, lived, died and lived again means that you can't shoot lighting bolts out of your armpits or pull giant magical hammers enchanted with evil spirits out of your rear but Kratos proves otherwise. These moves make him versatile, able to tackle enemies from range as well as close up, use tactics. You don't have to sit imobile in front of your enemy and take it in turns to hit eachother to prove that you're a man: nobody's going to accuse Kratos of having anything but a mammoth apendage.
5. Epic Monsters:
Epic monsters are what God of War is all about, and when I say epic I mean really really big. Over the course of the first two God of War games you'll kill a massive multi-headed sea serpent, a massive armoured Minotaur and the Collosus of Rhodes among others. Now in Diablo 3 we can see the Thousand Pounder and the aforementioned hideous Death-on-four-legs monster!
6. Coz I was blinded by the lights:
In God of War you'll repeatedly tear enemies to bits, smash their heads in doors and against walls, drown them in ponds, burn them alive, pull off their skulls and... but I digress. Despite all this darkness the game is often very bright and colourful, with a lot of bloom. This made the environments far more interesting and pleasing to the eye, because of the variation in mood the tempo, but Kratos's Greece is about as far from Care Bare land as it is possible to be.
7. No, not that sort of strong:
Diablo 3 will feature stronger character personalities who drive the story, participate in conversation, meet old friends and express opinions about their situation. Kratos doesn't so much drive God of War's story as violently pull the driver out, break every bone in his body, empale him on a spike and then lead the police on a high speed chase through 12 states!
Conclusion:
Obviously I love God of War, and so while I achknowledge that making a good game's sequel more like another good game is no recipe for sucess, the game that Diablo 3 is emmulating with it's colour and magic is not WoW but God of War, and in my book it's not possible to be too much like God of War
Here's a trailer for God of War 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaUIShOM54
What are you waiting for - flame me already
Blizzard even admitted they liked God of War and it was cool to take some of the feel from games like that and bring it to Diablo3.
The moment I saw those ghouls man!
RIP: Demon Hunter: lvl 50 | Barb: lvl 60 (plvl 5) | Monk: lvl12 & lvl70 (plvl 200)
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
By relation, according to the petitioners, God of War is gay and WoWish because it's not dark and brooding enough.
Everyone obviously thinks Diablo III looks like WoW for having color, but it actually more closely resembles GoW. The Barbarian especially should have a God of War feel to him. He's supposed to be the most brutal melee fighter. Who wants a wimpy Diablo 2 barb when you can have this one?
EDIT: scratch that, it was 7-2. apparently they had the interview b4 then
There is definiteley an influence when all the enemies start flying in all direction while bleeding with unrealistic "cartoon" blood spray.
Btw graphically Diablo 3 isn't far away (except physics) from GoW. And that's PS2 level graphics... Moreso than WoW.
It's really sad that Diablo franchise now has the stech of consoloe slashers associated with it.
/facepalm
Do you not remember the spray of blood when you killed fallen in D2?
Gore is not a bad thing for a mature game. It's always been in Diablo.
Blood on any game is red pixels incase you didn't know...
please dont bring up art direction here...again.
i dont really like it either, but i trust blizzard.
i really wanted to make a "everyone trust blizzard" thread awhile ago, but it would be useless spam.
on the other note, i heard GoW was a great game, so why not get some inspiration from it?
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Fan = Fantatic, and I think some people have watched that video so many times that they've gotten sick of it, and started looking for things to complain about. Go to a rave. Hug some strangers. Live a little.
I'm sorry if you already posted something like this, I did search for it but didn't find anything.
You are one of those people that seems to get affected by the general whining of the graphics. After that only thing you try to look from games are things that have something about wow or some kind of cartoonish looking thing.
When I read that petition page it had a lot of blaa blaa wow this and wow that which really made me laugh. It would have been a lot better "story" if the one that created the petition had left all the wow comparisons out and just analysized the graphics neutrally.
Imo that god of war looks one of the coolest console games there is. I dont have console and don't really mind about them in general but that one looks pretty cool.
RIP: Demon Hunter: lvl 50 | Barb: lvl 60 (plvl 5) | Monk: lvl12 & lvl70 (plvl 200)
blood sprayed and ran like water in d1 and d2.
and the anatomical makeup of the monsters in diablo are unknown, so it may spray.
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
Ugh.
Okay lets look on both sides.
Barbarian: KILLED DIABLO, why shouldn't he be able to dismember mere rotting ghouls?
Kratos: KILLED ZUES, why shouldn't he be able to dismember mere rotting ghouls?
Bloodspray? when you kill something and slap it aside cleaving it nearly into and severing many major arteries why shouldn't it bleed a lot?
It should bleed but not spray like in the trailer like a clouds of red mist.
Some believe that to be intelligent is to make judgements, but the Philosopher understands that wisdom is judging well, not simply judging. He is humble in the face of knowledge and thus knows when to speak and when to keep quiet.
- Article Philosophe de L'Encyclopedie, César Chesneau Dumarais
In case you've never played God of War here's a trailer for the second game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaUIShOM54