Personally, I liked what I saw -- and I saw that demo right on my face on a HUGE screen at the event with plenty of detail. The outdoors naturally need to look sharp and colorful, while the dungeons have that dark ambience. There is also obviously a change of illumination between 2D and 3D environments.
UPDATE: This quote was from the same day the game was announced, so it doesn't reflect much on the afterward fan response to the game. In short, he did not read the petition at that point. However, for your knowledge, I submitted today the Diablo III Art Design Direction Survey thread to Bashiok (Diablo III Community Manager). Your feedback was confirmed to have been received.Keith Lee - One of the things that we considered when we were working on the visuals for Diablo III is the fact that color is your friend. We feel that color actually helps to create a lot of highlights in the game so that there is contrast. A great analogy is like in Lord of the Rings. Not everything is dark. It allows you to see what a creepy dungeon can be like but if everything is dark it doesn't allow you to have a lot of contrast.
He continued: Diablo I and Diablo II are darker, and I think that the one of the main reasons why is the fact that in Diablo I, you're basically in a dungeon the whole time. And in contrast to Diablo III, you'll be exploring outdoors, you'll be in dungeons, you'll be experiencing so many different areas. We want to bring as much variety as we can when you're playing the game so that you're excited to check out new environments. We don't want everything to look the same and that's really what we're trying to aim for.
Said thread contains links to three of the online petitions.
Don't get me wrong, I have played Diablo I & II & LOD and I am a HUGE Diablo fan.
Ah yes, an intelligent post from someone who joined when.. oh July 2008. Yes another Johnny come lately. Please son, find a new home with a tone like yours.
That wasn't my point. My point is that from looking at his post, he's just another person that now that D3 has been announced, decided to join and complain because he didn't like it. So after he called some of us "fucking retards" and then ranted and raved, I said his post was "intelligent". Anyway.. back to the topic since I'm sure this will be deleted in the future.
Amazing job of photoshopping pics that you guys are doing. It doesn't help your case at all. Distorting pics of the demo, and then passing them around to sway public opinion is about as flawed as anything could get.
Here are some facts:
1) The petition is already bogus, because it has fake names on it. Lots of fake names. The results are invalid.
2) You've seen a small fraction of the game, a small demo. You don't even know if that level IS in the game, and what part it is. That might have been a map made just for this demo.
3) You don't know what color settings the demo was made in. What gamma settings did they use? What filming method? How do you know they didn't turn up the gamma, just for demonstration purposes? Having a demo be mostly dark would be dumb.
4) What do the later areas look like? What about Hell areas? More corrupt areas?
5) This is no longer the age of sprite graphics. Welcome to 2008, we have dynamic lighting and a much larger color pallette to use.
The heart and soul of the Diablo games has always been two things: Presentation of story, and exciting hack and slash against overwhelming odds. Gameplay decides the game, not fond memories of limited sprite graphics.
haha right on man. *cry sniff sniff* they arent making it the way *sniff* I want it.....*cries* IT ISNT FAIR MOMMY...I WANT THIS I WANT THAT.....psh stop yalls bitching and moaning. I'm all for constructive criticism, but dont blow a fucking neck vein b/c the game isnt exactly how you expect.
If you want the game to look more grey and gothic, reduce the brightness from the monitor :rolleyes:
Or if you don't like that, play with the 3 colors (there is an option at the video card properties) until you have the right colour.
Solved the problem in 30 seconds, without modifying the entire graphic concept of the game, which would add a couple of extra months at the release date. In my oppinion, all those modified pictures from the petition article were made by modifying just a little some of the colors by using photoshop. No other effects were added, and if they were they would be pretty difficult to implement (I could be wrong, I'm not such a photoshop / game programer"expert")
So ... focus your energy on constructive criticism, not on these kinds of things.
Good luck
All Excellent points and I could'nt agree more the diablo series has always been a trailblazer and to want to take steps back instead of forward is nonsense I for one want to see more of the game before making any kind of assumption
Sigh
I agree with you on that. What they showed was the first glimpse of Diablo 3. They don't even have a release date of the game. We don't know anything other than it's a demo of D3 and is subject to be different at any point of the actual game itself in the future. It was only a small piece and saying the rest of the game is going to have the same "feel" is poor speculation.
There is no definitive value applied to producing a well scripted response to work you want to criticize. On that notion, it should be fair to judge someone's feelings towards an issue based on the time they've taken to appropriately edit and revise their writing. This way we can properly judge your opinions, that are well thought out and educated.
So you obviously think YOU (alone) with all of your ideas, is considering something that THEY (ALL DEVELOPMENT TEAM... SOME OF THE BEST ON THIS...) forgot to, right?
You can apply on their site...
Good Luck!
-The results of just about any petition won't be entirely valid, but I've seen more than enough people discuss this issue on any discussion board enough to know that a good number of people do not agree with the art direction that blizzard is taking.
-While we have seen a small fraction of the game, if you've paid attention to what the art director for the game has said, you'd know that the 20 minutes of game play fall directly into line with what he intends to see in the game. He stated that the team intends to use liberal use of color to depict mood and set a theme, and what you see in the video is a liberal use of color that doesn't depict mood very well at all. The lighting in the crypt has deep color hues from 5 different points on the color spectrum and doesn't follow an analogous color scheme. Instead of depicting mood and theme, they generate a fantasy scheme with their selections, which isn't fitting for a Diablo title. We've seen or heard absolutely no indication that the game is going to change in anyway as the story progresses, in fact most of what we've heard would suggest otherwise.
-Color settings are irrelevant. Blizzard is not stupid enough to film any demonstration video in anything other than 1.0 gamma space. They are not using gamma profiles, and I should also mention that my monitor is calibrated to 2.2 gamma space, and I still don't think the game looks as good as it could.
-Other areas of the game may look slightly different, but again, the art team has stated they don't want to establish a dark game by using dark colors. They've said they want to use color to convey mood, which would suggest these areas won't be very dark at all. They have specifically stated that they want to avoid darkness, rather than use it in the same way as the previous titles.
-Whether or not the game is 2d or 3d is absolutely irrelevant. I think the issue at heart is the notion that because you have all sorts of color on your palette doesn't necessarily mean you need to use them all. In all my years of looking at traditional art, the artworks that have stuck with me and that I adore are generally the ones that are strongly punctual and simplistic in scheme. If you were to use too many different tones at once, I would generally find it difficult to associate with something. In the same way, if you were to use no color you'd find it hard to bring up any emotions tied to the artwork. A game is very much the same, and you MUST walk a very fine line to convey these ideas.
I've found that the concept artists have a much better understanding of color theory than the art director or people who actually lit those areas. I don't find that particularly surprising considering most of the concept artists are the ones who have spent a considerably longer time studying traditional art theory than the rest of the development team. Unfortunately in hue, the game's screenshots do not match what was seen in the concepts, and I think it's a very fair point to indicate that to Blizzard. If you don't think it's reasonable for us to tell them to listen to us, then they really ought to be looking at what their own concept artists think, because for me... those guys are the only ones who have produced something that looks exactly like it should.
Ok nobody can say that you have to be fluent at English to properly state your point for or against, but if the forum is in English and the audience speak it fluently; then it is best to inform them that it isn't your first language or that you may not have it fully mastered.
If you know what the ppl want, go out and write your own game, lets see how far you get. For a fact I know, the ppl that is wining about this and that, they will be the first to stand in line for S2 and D3. So what if some stuff is wowish, 10 Million+ ppl is playing wow, I guess Blizzard must be doing something right. If you dont like the brighter colors, set your screen darker, but really, with all the wining going on, earth will run out of cheese to go with that. Blizzard isnt gonna change stuff because 1% of the player base doesnt link this or that, they will stick with what they do best, and that is make amazing games that everyone can play and enjoy.
Ok, nough said.
30,000 people that are unhappy, at least 3/4 of those who are unhappy will continue to buy the game anyway. Millions of fans that are happy and will buy the game. So you're saying for a few thousand people that might not buy the game, they should change it? Apparently it is your heart that is bleeding. I bet you'll be one of the 3/4 of unhappy people that are first in line to buy Diablo 3 too.
I AM SURE BLIZZARD HEARD YOU, ALL OF YOU, THIS NEWS IS ALL OVER THE WEB.
I agree that the game is too artsy, and you know what? BLIZZARD WILL MOST PROBABLY CHANGE IT.
So stop fucken whinging, and get back to your homework.
especially you, Drake Tristan, you were ten fucken years old when diablo2 came out.
which means you were only legally allowed to purchase it a year ago.
BTW: and bigup on this one, the images linked on your sig, tristan, are awesome.
BLIZZARD GETS THE POINT! NOW WAIT IT OUT