Glad to hear it! That seems to be a rather common response to the build lol.
Indeed it does! Manner cookies new build that got featured on the main site is very similar to this build you created a while ago, but there are some key differences. He has an interesting way of taking it to end game once you get the gear if you watch the video. I think the key to this particular build though is that you can start doing well off the bat and not need any specific awesome gear to jump into torment. Interesting though the similarities and how much can be brought out of it end game once you get lots of gear with a few minor tweaks.
Good info about the thorns damage, and I can confirm that indeed it can crit and crit big adding extra value onto crit dmg for a thorns build. I'd add that thorns gains additional value with some legendaries such as Vo'Toyias Spiker, Invoker set, and Hack. Does anyone know of any other legendary items that benefit from thorns? Keep other non thorns information coming as well :).
Why Vita is so much worse than Armor/All Ress/LoH/Life per Second/Life per Resource.
I'm aware of the thought process for why vit. is worse than all res and armor however less so than the life gain ones. Is this because the higher the vit pool the less effective the latter is? I'd also argue that if you are stacking vit it could work with some specialized builds that work with holy cause that heal 1 percent of your total health, if you're doing that though you want to balance with all resist and armor to my knowledge. Corrections if I'm wrong are appreciated.
Seeing information about how to evaluate your gear (dps/mitigation/HP/healing) would be good. This could flow into heerobya's idea of what will work for the different T levels.
Can you link me to this discussion? I would like to read about it so that I can include this sort of information in the video and get this community member involved as well.
I have a number of tidbits I've collected since ROS launch that many newer player seem not to realize or know. What are the things that you think that any new player should know? I'd like to make a FAQ / Instructional video series to help inform the public and reduce the amount of repeated topics. Please only post new original information. For instance if you see someone in the thread post that elemental % modifies skills elemental dmg and not weapon's elemental dmg output, please do not repost the same information. This will make compiling it much easier. I'm going to plan on doing a series of informational videos and I'd like each one to be relatively focused so I'd like to compile a good deal of information before deciding how to organize the information. As I create the videos and compile them into a series I will update and post them in this thread. Things to think about are how stats work, how items work, tips and tricks you've found in the game, leveling secrets, spec advice, etc. Alright let's get this rolling and grow as a community!
I think they are just bitter at what it used to be in the beta. Btw it's 70 str per socket. If you have a socket in your shield, helm, 3 chest, 2 pants, 2 ring, 1 neck then you're at a max of 11 sockets I think. That being said sockets in all those is less than optimal but you could be looking at 770 str on top of the str you're already getting from sockets so that's nothing to scoff at.
You really want wrathful for that spec you're running as it has HUGE health returns :). I's swap out either holy cause or vigilant. Both are very nice but wrathful is amazing. If you find a pair of reaper wraps for wrath management (it's crafted just need to farm recipe and matts), then you could drop righteousness but I wouldn't as your wraps will scale with it. Getting a socket on your weapon is of utmost importance. A good green gem (imperial or above) is worth at least 500 dps and the holy dmg difference. Its really silly how much a difference socket makes. Since your on hardcore I'd replace the attack speed for the socket instead of the VIT.
Wow to dark flight! I'd never noticed that one before. That's amazing! I think blade of prophecy would do really well with this particular spec though with how quick condemn is off of cooldown you could have near perpetual explosions. Blizzard should make a 2h holy sword and call it Excalibur, maybe a holy light dmg proc or something similar to shaefer's hammer, god that would be amazing.
Nice thanks for the information. At the moment I'm switching back and forth between this build and a divine shield build with the legendary and they are yielding similar results, but I don't have a really good 2h'er yet. Are there any 2h'ers that will always roll with holy dmg?
Got the mats, crafted the Golden Scourge, got a decent roll, put a Socket in it - sitting at +67% Holy Damage, definitely does a little less damage than my 2H, but not that much and the effect on Smite DOES stack with the Armor of the Kind Regent, so my Smite hits like 6 targets at once. It's certainly the best 1H Leg I've yet used, by far.
It will be fun to use until I can get a Prophecy or some such. I'll probably swap Smite for Slash-Zeal for single target/boss fights though.
How are your condem blasts? I would say that the fast cooldown of condemn is where this build really shines, and that hits soooooo hard with a 2h. I wonder what the difference would be between say a random legendary 2h without holy, and that flail 1h with holy. I don't have that so I can't do any testing would you be able to post any numbers? I'd suggest timing a single target run like Grom and comparing the two, then timing an aoe boss like siege and comparing the two or something of that effect.
I love this build, always have been a big fan of FotH.
I just have had ZERO luck with getting a good/decent weapon to drop with +Holy Damage.
It actually performs well without the holy dmg on the weapon and then you can substitute that passive for another one such as finery and see a more or less equivalent increase if you're running max gems on your gear.
Looks like it would be pretty fun to do. I wonder if you would be better off using punish instead since you are going into the middle of packs. Maybe roar glyph for lots of reflected dmg. If you'd like i could make a video for the build that you are using so others can see it in action. Also if you have a look there are a couple builds semi similar to this on the forums. Manner cookie has a semi similar build in his ROS information thread and Vycaus has one in his Holy Wrath Fists of Heaven build.
I find the same spec with Blessed Shield and Jan shield to do way higher dps. but it requires the shield.
I agree, if you get the legendaries for those builds they will probably outperform this build. But then this build doesn't require specific legendaries which is its strength. I got the Glyphs foot or whatever it is called helped me with a blessed shield spam build that outperforms this build. It's not nearly as fun in all honesty though it gets kinda boring just spamming my shield, so even though it's more effective once I get some better gear I'll likely come back to this build.
I think that the heavens fury build could be good if you get that specific legendary as well. Does anyone know if there's a legendary that affects Fist of Heaven? That would be amazing if so and would make this build even better.
Side note: Ice climbers, and Reaper's Wraps (which can be farmed) make this build infinitely better.
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I assume this is the spec / guide your going off based on what I'm seeing on your armory. http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-class-forums/crusader-the-church-of-zakarum/85731-holy-wrath-fist-of-retribution-a-holy-lightning. Might ask questions there as well the author of the guide vycaus might have some advice as well :).
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I think that the heavens fury build could be good if you get that specific legendary as well. Does anyone know if there's a legendary that affects Fist of Heaven? That would be amazing if so and would make this build even better.
Side note: Ice climbers, and Reaper's Wraps (which can be farmed) make this build infinitely better.