The obvious conclusion from the poll data is that the majority of players like or feel the need for an AH. Despite a few changes being desired or the removal of the RMAH, there is still an overwhelming desire to have the GAH in Diablo. Many of the changes too have nothing to do with the AH itself but rather the drop rate. So in the end, it must feel odd for the vocal minority to know that they are bitching about something that so many feel is a good inclusion to the Diablo experience.
Nah, leave them alone. It's not the AH's that are the problem, it's the drop rate and quality of the drops. Tweek that and the prices will fall on the AH. Babies will be babies here and the truth of the matter is, there was an AH with D2, only the AH in D2 did not have an effect on the drop rates whereas they apear to have an effect here in D3. Repair that issue and you solve the problem with the babies hating on the AH's.
It still all seems to me to be nonsensical arguments. It's a game that has lost your affection due to some "simple and (in your opinion) broken" mechanics. I feel that after listening to your arguments, that you have for yourself created a straw man argument against the game and perhaps it is not the straw that broke the camel’s back but your hopes and aspirations for the game that have not come to full fruition. Maybe in time these hopes will come to pass but to blame your quitting of a game on simple mechanics and, as you would say, a bunch of small issues adding up to a ton of straw... seems a little silly. Sometimes when you have a fondness for something you have to take the good with the bad. The issues you have brought up certainly could be addressed to better fit your desires for the game but to quit because of them shows a pettier attitude than a true diehard desire to slog it through.
Let me make myself clear.
I have been repelling lots of pressure to try PoE by some of my long-time gaming friends. Lots of pressure. I don't want to try PoE, frankly, because I am a diehard Diablo fan. I don't want to try PoE because in some odd way, I'm afraid that it'll drive me away from D3 more-so than I am now.
I honestly feel this game has explosive potential. Nobody should need to explain the "why" of quitting (though I haven't quit, just taking a break). When a player logs into a game and they find themselves logging out within minutes, something has turned the player off.
The issues I've discussed in this thread aren't game-breaking, deal-breaking fundamental flaws. They are simple fixes. Itemization, that issue has been game-breaking, deal-breaking for me. Itemization has no complexity. Vanilla is the flavor and I'm bored with it.
If itemization gets turned around, which I've seen plenty of indicators that it will, these "straws" I've described wouldn't bother me enough to cause me to quit. You're right, these issues shouldn't give cause for anyone to quit unless they were cynical asshats.
I tried to slog through like a diehard fan. Actually, I intend to continue to do so. I just need a break until itemization is fixed. The good news is, by the time this happens, all these other ancillary issues will have been resolved. That's what I love about Blizz. They communicate with the players, otherwise, I'd have quit this game and deemed it a failure by now. They've put it out there....everything I've complained about has been confirmed by Blizz as a problem.
On the PoE topic, why not try the game? I have and it's a great game. Not earth shattering but it is a great game to play. Why would anybody choose to be monogamous with a game or genre for that matter? Heck, maybe a romp through another ARPG is what you need to release some of the angst you have towards D3? lol
When did D2 players and fans turned into efficiency whores?
They didn't. They just aren't playing this game anymore.
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Let me get my boots on, the crap is getting too deep. Of the one million people playing each day, there are no D2 players there? Yeah, keep holding on to that. I played and loved D2 but I am mature enough to accept that D3 is a different experience with some similarities. If you want to play a game like D2, then play D2 for god sakes. If you want to move forward and play something different then play D3. Your doom and gloom is getting old and with the news of there being a million players on the game at any given date.... Well, your doom and gloom is also just a bunch of BS. lol
I say they need to expand crafting to include improving current items and then once improved, make them BoA. Use Demonic Essence to improve an item like adding a socket to a weapon or improving a main stat on a set of gloves. Then once improved, that item is no longer available to the public, only to the account it was improved on. THey can't get rid of the AH as it is too well liked by many but they could bring a little more balance to the game by improving drop rates and creating more ways to make BiS items, BoA.
The solution needs to improve self-found gear without significantly improving AH gear or gold found, such as the BoA crafting recipes. I think they are on the right track.
Agree with the underlined part.
But Blizz apparently regrets the AH's existence. They have made steps to drive people away from the AH's (BoA).
They can't just strip the AH out of the game. The outrage from something like that would drive players away in droves.
Well they most certainly can. IMO...the only people that would run away so haphazardly would be the botters and for-profit players.
Blizz is trying to dramatically overhaul D3. They've targeted the worst offender, itemization. They've targeted content to be expanded. And rightfully so, they've apparently now targeted the AH's as problematic.
It's doubtful that Blizzard as a whole regrets the AH and in fact embraces it as it is an existing part of the game and will continue to be so for the games duration. Rather than saying they regret it, perhaps it would be best to say they wish it were more balanced and that is what brings me to my second point. They are not driving people away from the AH with BoA items, they are simply balancing the games itemization thus balancing the use of the AH. People thought that the Hellfire Ring would be the demise of ring sales on the AH but look how that turned out... Even Vile Wards are bouncing back from a short lived low spell in sales and Lacunis are as expensive as ever. With more crafting of better items, the AH will become just another option giving way a little more to crafting and looting. The next best improvement I can see them doing is increasing the drops of better items and letting us have more crafting.
We all know that all those sales you talk about rode on the coat-tails of D2. So, really, D2 is the big success story, here. It is my conviction that, were a Diablo 4 to be released today, the sales figures would paint a very different picture.
Funny how they tried all they could to make a game as different from D2 as possible, yet were more than willing to ride its coat-tails....
Sorry but I disagree. If anything Diablo 3 was a success because of the success of Blizzard games not Diablo 2. Do you really think everyone who bought the game played D2. Ive got 5 other people to buy the game and they absolutely have a great time with it. They are not clouded by D2 bias. The coat tail argument is just old. Heard it year after year in COD. You could mimic the Diablo 3 sales argument on the COD forums. "Game sucks it only sold cause of COD 4!!" but continues to sell millions upon millions copies every year because for many people the game is just fun.
Blizz's reputation is releasing a game, tweaking it for years, until they reach what they feel is a great game and then developing a sequal. Blizz sells games becuase they are one of the only developers that takes there time to ensure that the ultimate final product they produce is exactly what people want. Are some going to be unhappy..yup but a vast majority are extremely pleased.
In 10 more years when D4 is released it will sell a crap load of copies and people will complain because it isnt like D3. Times change and so does the core customer base. I think Blizz knows that by how there games have evolved.
Could not agree more. The D2 bias is amazing around here. I played the game. Loved it! But with everything else, there are changes and as time passes, games change. They may not be what we all want but they seem to prevail or fail based on their content and not based on their predecessor. D3 is a good game by itself, even without the memory of D2.
I get the saying but you two have seemingly missed my point. If you look closely its the large elephant in the room staring at you and asking, why the hell were you even bothering to pick up the rares when you hated ID'ing them so badly? I know it's a tough call but maybe the straw that broke that camel’s back was more of an excuse to post a flawed complaint on a forum? Maybe??? <_<
To do so would exclude one of my main draws toward Diablo games. I know not all people play the same, but myself, a huge part of the fun of grinding gear is finding those rare, one-of-a-kind items.
To do so, one must wade through plenty of bad items. Your solution is to just leave them there, which subtracts from one of the main draws of a gear-grinding game. This reeks of nonsense to me.
The fact that ID'ing is a pain in the ass didn't stop me from picking these items up. It stopped me from playing, along with a boatload of other neglected fixes.
Admittedly, itemization is such a mess that this endeavor is often futile. Nevertheless, I enjoy rooting through an assortment of junk items, digging for that diamond in the rough, so to speak.
You shouldn't defend bad game mechanics.
Another seemingly benign issue that frustrates me is only being able to see 5 active buffs. Like....how fucking hard is it to fix this? Should it really take a year and MORE PTR to fix it?
How about the lack of a /nopickup?
SOOOOO sick of clicking and stumbling over junk loot during combat. SOOOO sick of dumping mass-loads of junk items I accidentally picked up.
Again, easy fix, 1 year, still in the game.
Add it up....lots of straws stackin up, aye?
It still all seems to me to be nonsensical arguments. It's a game that has lost your affection due to some "simple and (in your opinion) broken" mechanics. I feel that after listening to your arguments, that you have for yourself created a straw man argument against the game and perhaps it is not the straw that broke the camel’s back but your hopes and aspirations for the game that have not come to full fruition. Maybe in time these hopes will come to pass but to blame your quitting of a game on simple mechanics and, as you would say, a bunch of small issues adding up to a ton of straw... seems a little silly. Sometimes when you have a fondness for something you have to take the good with the bad. The issues you have brought up certainly could be addressed to better fit your desires for the game but to quit because of them shows a pettier attitude than a true diehard desire to slog it through.
I'm on hiatus from D3. The proverbial straw that broke the camels back? Individual ID'ing....I just couldn't fucking do it anymore. IT's so frustrating ....it got so on my nerves that it was like a nail being dragged across a chalkboard with every click.
I don't weather to laugh at this or actually PM you the number to a good shrink... You quit a game for a simple mechanic that can easily be avoided by not picking up everything you see on the ground? Really?
The second sentence is especially enlightening: "This is a reference to any process by which cataclysmic failure (a broken back) is achieved by a seemingly inconsequential addition, a single straw."
Oh well...reading comprehension be damned.
Thank you......
Feels odd explaining age-old sayings, doesn't it?
I get the saying but you two have seemingly missed my point. If you look closely its the large elephant in the room staring at you and asking, why the hell were you even bothering to pick up the rares when you hated ID'ing them so badly? I know it's a tough call but maybe the straw that broke that camel’s back was more of an excuse to post a flawed complaint on a forum? Maybe??? <_<
I'm on hiatus from D3. The proverbial straw that broke the camels back? Individual ID'ing....I just couldn't fucking do it anymore. IT's so frustrating ....it got so on my nerves that it was like a nail being dragged across a chalkboard with every click.
I don't weather to laugh at this or actually PM you the number to a good shrink... You quit a game for a simple mechanic that can easily be avoided by not picking up everything you see on the ground? Really?
I play D3 without an authenticator, but I'm a tough guy.
Being tough has nothing to do with it. It's a free service and having it is that added extra security to your account to avoid being hit by a hacker. I hope you are just being facetious.
I know "1%" more isnt alot; but maybe it works with breakpoints and when you reach 25%.. it increase more than 1%?
And wanted to know if the one more tornado worth it;
Im not stupid i know 1% on 125% is near of nothing;
I don't want to come across as questioning your mentality but I do wonder what would make your buddy say that 25% is a lot faster than 24%. it just seems silly to even say that, especially if it would have convinced you to spend more money all for a single percent of move speed.
Jailer/Desecration is the worst IMHO. Even Arcane Sentry and Jailer sucks. It's always the chance that you have an Arcane sentry or six drop near by then vortexed in and jailed... Yeah, sucks.
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On the PoE topic, why not try the game? I have and it's a great game. Not earth shattering but it is a great game to play. Why would anybody choose to be monogamous with a game or genre for that matter? Heck, maybe a romp through another ARPG is what you need to release some of the angst you have towards D3? lol
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Let me get my boots on, the crap is getting too deep. Of the one million people playing each day, there are no D2 players there? Yeah, keep holding on to that. I played and loved D2 but I am mature enough to accept that D3 is a different experience with some similarities. If you want to play a game like D2, then play D2 for god sakes. If you want to move forward and play something different then play D3. Your doom and gloom is getting old and with the news of there being a million players on the game at any given date.... Well, your doom and gloom is also just a bunch of BS. lol
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It's doubtful that Blizzard as a whole regrets the AH and in fact embraces it as it is an existing part of the game and will continue to be so for the games duration. Rather than saying they regret it, perhaps it would be best to say they wish it were more balanced and that is what brings me to my second point. They are not driving people away from the AH with BoA items, they are simply balancing the games itemization thus balancing the use of the AH. People thought that the Hellfire Ring would be the demise of ring sales on the AH but look how that turned out... Even Vile Wards are bouncing back from a short lived low spell in sales and Lacunis are as expensive as ever. With more crafting of better items, the AH will become just another option giving way a little more to crafting and looting. The next best improvement I can see them doing is increasing the drops of better items and letting us have more crafting.
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Could not agree more. The D2 bias is amazing around here. I played the game. Loved it! But with everything else, there are changes and as time passes, games change. They may not be what we all want but they seem to prevail or fail based on their content and not based on their predecessor. D3 is a good game by itself, even without the memory of D2.
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I get the saying but you two have seemingly missed my point. If you look closely its the large elephant in the room staring at you and asking, why the hell were you even bothering to pick up the rares when you hated ID'ing them so badly? I know it's a tough call but maybe the straw that broke that camel’s back was more of an excuse to post a flawed complaint on a forum? Maybe??? <_<
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I don't weather to laugh at this or actually PM you the number to a good shrink... You quit a game for a simple mechanic that can easily be avoided by not picking up everything you see on the ground? Really?
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Being tough has nothing to do with it. It's a free service and having it is that added extra security to your account to avoid being hit by a hacker. I hope you are just being facetious.
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And I might add, if you are playing Diablo III without an authenticator, you are just asking for trouble.
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I don't want to come across as questioning your mentality but I do wonder what would make your buddy say that 25% is a lot faster than 24%. it just seems silly to even say that, especially if it would have convinced you to spend more money all for a single percent of move speed.
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